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What Id expect out of a Kane to COL trade

Créé par: FunMustBeAlways
Équipe: 2020-21 Sharks de San Jose
Date de création initiale: 14 sept. 2020
Publié: 14 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Keep in mind, I'm not necessarily saying this is the correct value. I could very well be off value-wise. But the 3 players coming back to SJ are the important parts of the trade in my opinion. The value can be adjusted accordingly.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
33 500 000 $
2750 000 $
32 250 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
46 250 000 $
33 600 000 $
1700 000 $
1815 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Heed, Tim
11 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
SJS
  1. Francouz, Pavel
  2. Jost, Tyson [Droits de RFA]
  3. Kaut, Martin
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (COL)
COL
  1. Kane, Evander
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (WSH)
2.
SJS
  1. Voracek, Jakub
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2020 (PHI)
PHI
  1. Burns, Brent
  2. Sörensen, Marcus (550 000 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (OTT)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
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Logo de SJS
Logo de COL
Logo de SJS
Logo de PHI
Logo de PIT
Logo de WSH
2021
Logo de SJS
Logo de COL
Logo de SJS
Logo de PIT
Logo de SJS
Logo de SJS
Logo de SJS
Logo de SJS
2022
Logo de SJS
Logo de SJS
Logo de SJS
Logo de SJS
Logo de SJS
Logo de SJS
Logo de SJS
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $76 059 999 $0 $722 500 $5 440 001 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
8 250 000 $8 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 7
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
768 333 $768 333 $ (Bonis de performance65 000 $$65K)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
700 000 $700 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
AD
RFA - 3
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
815 000 $815 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
DG/DD
NMC
UFA - 6
3 600 000 $3 600 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DG
UFA - 2
Heed, Tim
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
750 000 $750 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
700 000 $700 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
763 333 $763 333 $ (Bonis de performance20 000 $$20K)
C, AD
UFA - 1

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14 sept. 2020 à 19 h 24
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They're not trading him after he helped stop racism though.
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14 sept. 2020 à 19 h 29
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I’d aim higher. Get an A level prospect at least. Get your goalie in FA.
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14 sept. 2020 à 19 h 31
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I'd be good with this too, not sure if COL is willing to give up two good young pieces though, a bit of a stretch to put Kaut at 3RW next season over Gambrell, True, or Chmelevski.
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I’d aim higher. Get an A level prospect at least. Get your goalie in FA.


Definitely see your point. The beauty of Francouz is that he's gonna be cheap, he played quite a few games last year, and put up a very respectable save %. No one in FA will be that cheap or proficient I think (that we can afford). I'd love to get back a better prospect as you've suggested though. I'm just not sure Colorado would be willing to give up too much more.
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I'd be good with this too, not sure if COL is willing to give up two good young pieces though, a bit of a stretch to put Kaut at 3RW next season over Gambrell, True, or Chmelevski.


It would be tough to convince them, but I like Kaut's upside. And yeah I should probably find an alternative to him at 3RW.
14 sept. 2020 à 19 h 40
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i hope the avs wouldn't do this
14 sept. 2020 à 19 h 41
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They're not trading him after he helped stop racism though.


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I'd be good with this too, not sure if COL is willing to give up two good young pieces though, a bit of a stretch to put Kaut at 3RW next season over Gambrell, True, or Chmelevski.



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It would be tough to convince them, but I like Kaut's upside. And yeah I should probably find an alternative to him at 3RW.



Kaut is def better than Gambrell and likely True. Sasha we’d see.

I think the trade is fair but
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I’d aim higher. Get an A level prospect at least. Get your goalie in FA.

This seems better
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in all seriousness though, people don't pay attention enough to PR and public image of teams when proposing trades. it's for this reason I don't think Minnesota is trading Dumba anytime soon, and Philadelphia isn't trading Lindblom especially after he signed a new contract.
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in all seriousness though, people don't pay attention enough to PR and public image of teams when proposing trades. it's for this reason I don't think Minnesota is trading Dumba anytime soon, and Philadelphia isn't trading Lindblom especially after he signed a new contract.

100% agreed; as why I never have a serious Kane trade suggestion. Kane has openly said he loves San Jose (his article he wrote with whatever journalism piece), and then this years events; Kane likely stays with San Jose till contract end or in a few years once things settle. Same with players like Ryan, he won’t be trade his story is too big and Ottawa knows they can afford him as a secondary thought...then again it is Melnyk
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in all seriousness though, people don't pay attention enough to PR and public image of teams when proposing trades. it's for this reason I don't think Minnesota is trading Dumba anytime soon, and Philadelphia isn't trading Lindblom especially after he signed a new contract.


Yep, that's why I said the sharks PR department would burn down in mine, not a good look to trade Kane after what's been going on.
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Definitely see your point. The beauty of Francouz is that he's gonna be cheap, he played quite a few games last year, and put up a very respectable save %. No one in FA will be that cheap or proficient I think (that we can afford). I'd love to get back a better prospect as you've suggested though. I'm just not sure Colorado would be willing to give up too much more.

The whole thing with Kane from an Avs point of view is his contract, and specifically the years left on it because I don’t think the AAV is out of line. With 5 yrs left during that time span the Avs literally have to re-sign everyone except Rantanen and Girard. That includes 2nd contracts for guys like Byram and Newhook you expect to be pretty darn good and the obvious huge contracts for Makar and Landeskog and the monster one for MacKinnon. The value is very fair but to really consider it I would think that the Avs would like to have extensions for Landeskog and Makar in place first.
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in all seriousness though, people don't pay attention enough to PR and public image of teams when proposing trades. it's for this reason I don't think Minnesota is trading Dumba anytime soon, and Philadelphia isn't trading Lindblom especially after he signed a new contract.


Agreed. And we aren't really interested in trading him in the first place to be honest. This was more of a theoretical scenario, but in most of the other A-GM's most people realize he's pretty much a lock to stay in SJ. We like him here...so far...
 
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