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Parayko to Buf

Créé par: BluesBandit
Date de création initiale: sep 9, 2020
Publié: 10 sep 2020 à 8 h 52
Équipe: 2020-21 Blues de St-Louis
Explications
Buffalo deal gives them an elite top pairing of Dahlin and Parayko. Parayko's shutdown D gives Dahlin more offensive freedom. Blues get a guy with Top 4 potential and a pick to give them another top prospect, hopefully Holtz or Rossi is there at 8.

The Granlund signing is one I've gone back and forth on. He seems to always play well against the Blues and I remember him being a hell of a player with Minnesota. I hope he signs a short deal betting on himself to get a bigger deal when the cap rises again. An alternate could be Galchenyuk or Soderberg, preferibly someone who costs less than 5 mil.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Dunn, Vince32 750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Pietrangelo, Alex88 500 000 $
Granlund, Mikael24 000 000 $
Transactions
STL
  1. 2020 4e round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Bozak, Tyler
STL
  1. Jokiharju, Henri
  2. 2020 1e round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Parayko, Colton
  2. Blais, Samuel
  3. 2020 3e round pick (STL)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
STL
BUF
WSH
STL
OTT
STL
CAR
CHI
2021
STL
STL
STL
STL
2022
STL
STL
STL
STL
STL
STL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $80 272 181 $306 349 $1 275 000 $1 227 819 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
STL
Schwartz, Jaden
5 350 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 1
STL
O'Reilly, Ryan
7 500 000 $
C
UFA - 3
STL
Perron, David
4 000 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 2
Granlund, Mikael
4 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
STL
Schenn, Brayden
6 500 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 8
STL
Kyrou, Jordan
758 333 $
AD
RFA - 1
STL
Sanford, Zachary
1 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
STL
Thomas, Robert
894 166 $
C, AD
RFA - 1
STL
Kostin, Klim
863 333 $
AD
RFA - 2
STL
Steen, Alexander
5 750 000 $
AG, AD, C
NTC
UFA - 1
STL
Sundqvist, Oskar
2 750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
STL
Barbashev, Ivan
1 475 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
STL
Dunn, Vince
2 750 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
STL
Pietrangelo, Alex
8 500 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 7
STL
Binnington, Jordan
4 400 000 $
G
UFA - 1
STL
Scandella, Marco
3 275 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 4
STL
Faulk, Justin
6 500 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 7
STL
Husso, Ville
750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
STL
Gunnarsson, Carl
1 750 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 1
BUF
Jokiharju, Henri
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
STL
MacEachern, Mackenzie
900 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
STL
Tarasenko, Vladimir
7 500 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 3
STL
Bortuzzo, Robert
1 375 000 $
DD
UFA - 2

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10 sep 2020 à 8 h 54
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Thats gonna be a no from Buffalo.
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10 sep 2020 à 8 h 55
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Thats gonna be a no from Buffalo.


You'd be wrong to refuse lol
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10 sep 2020 à 8 h 56
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Thats gonna be a no from Buffalo.


Pretty sure it's a no from St Louis as well, No way i see Armstrong dealing Parayko any time soon.
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10 sep 2020 à 8 h 57
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
You'd be wrong to refuse lol


No thank you.
10 sep 2020 à 8 h 57
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Pretty sure it's a no from St Louis as well, No way i see Armstrong dealing Parayko any time soon.


thats fine. we have plenty of issues as a team that trading a 20 year old RHD and the #8 overall pick to still have 5 RHD dont fix.
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10 sep 2020 à 8 h 58
#6
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
You'd be wrong to refuse lol


I think Buffalo would accept, But doubt St Louis has any interest in trading Parayko right now.
10 sep 2020 à 8 h 59
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
I think Buffalo would accept, But doubt St Louis has any interest in trading Parayko right now.


Correct
10 sep 2020 à 9 h 06
#8
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10 sep 2020 à 9 h 29
#9
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Buffalo needs more RD’s
10 sep 2020 à 10 h 07
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
I think Buffalo would accept, But doubt St Louis has any interest in trading Parayko right now.


you think parayko is worth the 8th overall pick and a top 4 20 year old defensemen to a team that is desperate for talent, not close to competing, and has 5 RHD already?

good lord.
10 sep 2020 à 10 h 07
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Correct


incorrect
10 sep 2020 à 10 h 07
#12
redw1n9s
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You should be embarrassed that as a Blues fan (I assume) you gave up Parayko for that little.
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10 sep 2020 à 10 h 24
#13
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
you think parayko is worth the 8th overall pick and a top 4 20 year old defensemen to a team that is desperate for talent, not close to competing, and has 5 RHD already?

good lord.


Doesn't matter what i think, We can both agree that neither Buffalo nor St Louis are moving their best pieces in this deal.
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10 sep 2020 à 10 h 30
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Doesn't matter what i think, We can both agree that neither Buffalo nor St Louis are moving their best pieces in this deal.


I was responding to you saying buffalo would accept.
10 sep 2020 à 10 h 36
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Neither team wants to do it. Could either end up like the Carter-to-Columbus trade (Philly gets Couturier w/ 8oa and Voracek and wins big) or the Jordan Staal-to-Carolina trade (PIT gets Dumoulin, Sutter, and flops on the 8oa with Pouliot). But Carter had 11(!) yrs of a contract and Staal was a 24 yr old RFA vs 2 yrs of Parayko's contract... BUF has no reason to commit those pieces to 2 yrs of Parayko (it's BUF, he wouldn't stay) and STL has no reason to take on that much risk with a ready-built team. Value-wise, it's impossible to know without (a) seeing who is otb at 8 and (b) seeing what the player taken at 8 does between now and the end of his 2nd contract.
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10 sep 2020 à 11 h 25
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
I was responding to you saying buffalo would accept.


I was just being sarcasm there, I know it's a bad offer for the Sabres.
10 sep 2020 à 11 h 43
#17
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Is Parayko really gonna be that much better than Joki will be in 2 years? Probably not
10 sep 2020 à 23 h 03
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Parayko is good and the trade would make a little sense if he was a LD but with this deal the Sabres end up worse
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11 sep 2020 à 10 h 18
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Quoting: Sabresforlife
Parayko is good and the trade would make a little sense if he was a LD but with this deal the Sabres end up worse


You nailed it.
If Parayko was LHD and Blais a RH RW it would make more sense.
I love Jokiharju, I have seen him do things no other defense has done.
He is developed beyond his age.
But Parayko IS solid, Jokiharju MAY be as good as he some day.
 
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