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Créé par: kloperleo
Équipe: 2020-21 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 8 sept. 2020
Publié: 8 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
11 250 000 $
11 750 000 $
13 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 900 000 $
Transactions
1.
PHI
  1. Hossa, Marián
  2. Stepan, Derek
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (ARI)
  4. Choix de 6e ronde en 2020 (ARI)
2.
CGY
  1. Laughton, Scott
  2. Patrick, Nolan [Droits de RFA]
  3. Zamula, Yegor
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (PHI)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (ARI)
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (PHI)
3.
PHI
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (VAN)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (VGK)
4.
MIN
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (VAN)
5.
PHI
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
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Logo de VGK
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
Logo de EDM
Logo de PHI
Logo de ARI
Logo de PHI
Logo de MTL
2021
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
2022
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
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Logo de PHI
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $71 791 631 $66 037 $735 000 $9 708 369 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
4 137 500 $4 137 500 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
4 333 333 $4 333 333 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 5
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
3 571 429 $3 571 429 $
C
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
8 250 000 $8 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
863 333 $863 333 $
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
736 666 $736 666 $ (Bonis de performance20 000 $$20K)
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
4 725 000 $4 725 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
730 833 $730 833 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
G
RFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
785 000 $785 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
775 833 $775 833 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
700 000 $700 000 $
DG, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
725 000 $725 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
5 275 000 $5 275 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 1

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8 sept. 2020 à 12 h 9
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So many problems with this. First of all, that is way too much to give up for Gaudreau. And why would they give up a 2nd round pick for Stalock? They can easily sign a goalie of equal level for cheap on the UFA market. Next, there is no way LA gives that much up for Ghost. His value has plummeted. Finally, no way Arizona is taking on JVR's contract without some sort of sweetener. OK I think I'm done.
8 sept. 2020 à 12 h 12
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Flames decline. If you're not going to include any quality pieces (Konecny, Frost, Farabee, Myers) don't bother trying to get him. We're not sellers and we're not shopping him
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8 sept. 2020 à 12 h 19
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Quoting: Alfie11
Flames decline. If you're not going to include any quality pieces (Konecny, Frost, Farabee, Myers) don't bother trying to get him. We're not sellers and we're not shopping him


Zamula has a lot of value not sure which rock you are living under. But do agree that Patrick is not a valuable piece with his injury concerns and would need to be Frost involved.
8 sept. 2020 à 12 h 26
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Quoting: willdog37
So many problems with this. First of all, that is way too much to give up for Gaudreau. And why would they give up a 2nd round pick for Stalock? They can easily sign a goalie of equal level for cheap on the UFA market. Next, there is no way LA gives that much up for Ghost. His value has plummeted. Finally, no way Arizona is taking on JVR's contract without some sort of sweetener. OK I think I'm done.


Kind of reminds me of when Apollo Creed broke Rocky's nose at the conclusion of the 1st round in their 1st fight together. And when Rocky asked how it looked Mickey replied, "Ah it's an improvement." Though painful, these trades would improve Philadelphia.
8 sept. 2020 à 12 h 31
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Quoting: Jaycee
Zamula has a lot of value not sure which rock you are living under. But do agree that Patrick is not a valuable piece with his injury concerns and would need to be Frost involved.

Zamula might be a decent prospect but we have no need for left shot defensemen. We have 4 NHL quality LD already (3 of whom are 23 or under), plus a promising college free agent we just signed. A package including a 2RD and/or young forwards with top 6 potential is what it would take to get Johnny.
8 sept. 2020 à 12 h 36
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Quoting: Alfie11
Zamula might be a decent prospect but we have no need for left shot defensemen. We have 4 NHL quality LD already (3 of whom are 23 or under), plus a promising college free agent we just signed. A package including a 2RD and/or young forwards with top 6 potential is what it would take to get Johnny.


Zamula has been a left handed RD has always preferred the right side. But all that is understandable. Doubt the Flyers make a move for Johnny not really worth it, can just try to sign him in 2 years
8 sept. 2020 à 12 h 38
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Quoting: Alfie11
Flames decline. If you're not going to include any quality pieces (Konecny, Frost, Farabee, Myers) don't bother trying to get him. We're not sellers and we're not shopping him


I agree. There is no purpose for the Flyers to get Johnny besides just exciting the fans. He doesn't move the needle for us enough for the price Calgary would want. Konecny outplayed him this past season so he would be a no. I can't see Farabee either. Fletcher may be willing to include Frost on a deal, but I wouldn't myself. Like I said Johnny is a good hockey player, but his skillset and what he brings doesn't really impact how our roster feels.

It doesn't make sense for Calgary either unless we give up a really good piece like you're talking about, and I just don't think Johnny is worth to us what they'd need to part with him. Just one of those things where it doesn't really make sense for either team right now unless one budges on the value of him.
8 sept. 2020 à 12 h 59
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As long as you are leaving Giroux and Jake on this team, you haven't improved anything. I am not anti-Giroux I just believe his leadership and talent has declined. Jake needs to go.
I understand they are hard to move in a trade and replacing them would be difficult. But trade them for whatever you can get and sign Hall. We need more speed with the ability to put up points.
The leadership needs to change in that locker room.
8 sept. 2020 à 14 h 25
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Quoting: willdog37
So many problems with this. First of all, that is way too much to give up for Gaudreau. And why would they give up a 2nd round pick for Stalock? They can easily sign a goalie of equal level for cheap on the UFA market. Next, there is no way LA gives that much up for Ghost. His value has plummeted. Finally, no way Arizona is taking on JVR's contract without some sort of sweetener. OK I think I'm done.


1. It’s not too much it actually may be too little in terms of NHL ready talent
2. Stalock is a great backup on the minimum which makes him
an uber valuable asset. He’s worth somewhere between a second and a fourth.
3. LA has extra picks and Ghost would fit in well there.
4. Taking almost 12 million and dollars off AZ’s books when they’re trying to slash salary is helpful. They get close to 5 mil in relief and get a useful player for Hossa and Stepan’s bad deal.
8 sept. 2020 à 14 h 26
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Quoting: AJC13
Kind of reminds me of when Apollo Creed broke Rocky's nose at the conclusion of the 1st round in their 1st fight together. And when Rocky asked how it looked Mickey replied, "Ah it's an improvement." Though painful, these trades would improve Philadelphia.


It’s not painful. It’s just complex. The on ice team would be far better and far equipped for next offseason when they need to sign Carter and start worrying about Couturier’s raise.
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8 sept. 2020 à 22 h 50
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For that price I'd rather be getting Ehlers or Laine than Johnny Hockey. I get it, he's from Jersey, but that doesn't make him more valuable lol
 
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