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Mintyfresh

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Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 2:23 am
Sujet: Dubois
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>I’m probably biased but I think a healthy Patrick gives you Dubois production for half the price, I possibly bite on Dubois but not in a bidding war scenario and not to sacrifice depth, philly attracts free agents, so cap management vital, if the kids don’t quite have it, there’s a ufa in the offseason that could fill the hole, but I take this squad to the dance, maybe a cheap rental or two, but nothing to change the dynamic they have. I still think a Florida fire sale coming pre expansion draft, and Philly/Rangers/colorado in a bidding war for barkov/ekblad</div></div>

I don't disagree with your logic here at all. I see both sides. I'd hate to hurt the chemistry this team is brewing, but I also see the value in bringing in Dubois for his ability to mitigate some issues with Coots going out in the short term, and in the long term he is a much bigger body than our other options currently on roster, which I lowkey think we could always continue to add. I actually wouldn't add Patrick in my proposal. My proposal is unpopular but it would be more centered around Lindblom, which would make some upset no doubt, but make sense for both parties as CBJ and Torts would love Lindblom, but Dubois is a bigger stronger presence. Like I said I don't think it's a necessary deal, but definitely a fun proposal.
Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 1:58 am
Sujet: Controversial
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles777</b></div><div>I feel like the flyers are deep enough down the middle where they don’t need to trade for dubios and he probably wouldn’t want to play wing. Lindblom + NAK provide just as much value as PLD. IMO the flyers just need a defensive minded top 4 D and that’s it.</div></div>

I definitely agree with you. The problem is with expansion thats a move that will have to wait until after the season. Which I don't hate on patience, but I don't think this would take us out of possibly making a deal after the season either. We would still have a rather deep roster even with this trade. But like I said if the Flyers can get him for cheaper than this its a no brainer. My proposal is probably too rich like we've said above. Love the input. I also just want more big bodies like Dubois in there. I can't take getting pushed around by the Islanders again this post-season. Lindblom plays an all around game and is no push over, but isn't exactly stout. haha
Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 1:53 am
Sujet: Dubois
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>I just don’t see the Dubois excitement for philly, he’s going to want the 8 million ish u don’t have going forward and produce the 60/70 points that u all ready get out of your other centers, I just think a depth package that your giving up u should shoot a little higher for something elite, possibly a Florida season in the toilet. Just an opinion on the state of flyers and future cap</div></div>

I see your point, especially cap wise. But with all this forward depth, the flyers eventually have to make a move or lose someone, all these forwards are going to add up contract wise at some point. Maybe they should wait and trade Frost or another piece for a defenseman after expansion, but this move gives Philly pieces to mitigate some of the injury problems this year, and I don't think hurts Philly very bad moving forward cap wise as people might think. They would still have moves they could make after the season using other players or if they can persuade Seattle to take JVR to open up more cap. If he builds off this start to the season, Seattle may not have to be paid too much extra to pick him like we all once thought.
Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 1:39 am
Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 1:35 am
Sujet: Controversial
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wqrrior</b></div><div>Gotta think Lindblom will live out most of that contract here. Fanbase will lose it if he is traded after that season.... means a lot to the team and it would be a kick to the pants to turn around at trade him. Frost isnt as valuable as this time last year, but he's hard to move.... idm moving him here.

Leave out the Savard swap here. Drop Ghost / Lindblom. Frost and a first is fair imo.... Dubois value won't be through the roof after this week.</div></div>

I mean I would love that! I just don't think that would work to get Dubois plus getting Savard is a big part of the deal for the immediate future. We need some help defensively. He isn't a cure, but he'd at least help. Too many players getting right in front of Hart, its inexcusable.

I also get your point on Linblom, it hurt to do it, but I mean lets be real its a business. Gotta do what you gotta do to improve the team. Dubois would offset some of what is lost with Coots out as well. I was just worried I'd under-pay. If it is an overpay I certainly don't mind if its adjusted.
Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 1:30 am
Sujet: Controversial
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wqrrior</b></div><div>This is a drastic overpay.</div></div>

I do believe the Flyers are giving up a lot, but you have to give a lot to get good players. This year's draft isn't the best so the 1st rounder isnt' a huge deal imo.

I look at it as if Linblom, Frost, 1st for Dubois. Ghost, Nak and a 3rd for Savard w/ some value of the 1st rounder carrying over to the Savard part of the trade. I hope that makes sense, but like I said you are right it is a huge risk to pay this, but I think Dubois could prosper with better talent around him. I'm definitely open to keeping Frost and substituting another prospect in his place. I'm not married to this package, just like the idea because it takes bold decisions to get over that hump. Ideally, I would trade this package for a top tier Defenseman, but then the Flyers would have to expose Myers in expansion. Any defenseman trade won't come until next year.
Forum: Armchair-GM24 nov 2020 à 11 h 15
Sujet: Chucky Staying Quiet
Yeah I'm not saying don't try to make any moves at all. Its just smart not depleting long term cap or valuable prospects right now with so much unknown. Trying to get rid of ghost for scraps and then signing Vatanen to a 1 year deal would still be a really safe solid move that improves the team.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KakkoForMauriceRichardAward</b></div><div>Their D core worries me frankly. I see a very solid number one and a solid number 2 in Provorov and Sanheim, but I don't see any number 3. Gust and Myers are number 4s in my eyes. Braun is a number 5 and Ghost sucks at defense while not bringing much in terms of offense. If they could move Ghost for scraps and sign Vatanen I think it would be great for them.

Provorov-Myers
Sanheim-Vatanen
Gust-Braun</div></div>
Forum: Armchair-GM10 nov 2020 à 12 h 42
Forum: Armchair-GM30 oct 2020 à 16 h 19
Sujet: Chucky Three Trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>buffbry</b></div><div>Regardless of the guys who need a fresh change, the ghost part will cost quite a bit to dump that Contract to me. The guys who need a change cholo has more value then rub, so it's a no go there either. I'd trade cholo and lgd for ghost + farabee + 2nd in 2021. It's the price to take ghost really</div></div>

WHAT... there isn't a GM on the planet who would give up Farabee just to get rid of Ghosts contract. Thats absurd! That would even be an overpay to get rid of Erickson contract for Vancouver then you also add in a 2nd. Farabee is too good of a prospect for that. Wow. I awknowledge maybe the contract is a bigger deterrent than I made it, but now you've completely lost me if you think thats the price.
Forum: Armchair-GM30 oct 2020 à 14 h 10
Sujet: Chucky Three Trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mikearky</b></div><div>The Ghost trade is a no go. Rubtsov is a bust and Ghost is a cap dump, so why are we giving up a decent 4th line center, a defensman who is has played in the NHL but compares with Rubtsov and a pick?</div></div>

I don't think calling Rubtsov a bust is entirely fair. Rubtsov needs to get healthy and can probably stick at least as a bottom 6 guy. Cholowski is actually more concerning because he has gotten his chances to contribute and has been healthy scratched and the Red Wings don't seem to believe in him much anymore. All these guys are change of scenery guys, and I feel like Rubtsov is the safest to stick on a roster at this point, because his style of play at least makes him a bottom 6. Ghost is the riskiest part of the deal only because of his contract, but also we've seen him succeed before so he's the highest upside because he can do it. Cholowski doesn't have a safe floor, but also hasn't succeeded enough to warrant benefit of the doubt. I actually think the Red Wings win this deal, because at worst you get a guy for your bottom 6 and a chance at PP QB and goal scoring defenseman. At worst Ghost doesn't return to form and you leave Ghost unprotected next year and there may be a solid chance is snagged up by Seattle, but the Red Wings have no use for Cholowski anymore, they seem like they've pretty much given up on him.

I wouldn't make the deal if I was the Flyers, the only reason I did was because they need Ghost to leave in order to get cap space, but the Red Wings don't have that issue so I feel they were a good match to do a change of scenery trade. But I do understand the viewpoint of not accepting based on Ghost contract even though I think the upside of this trade favors Detroit.
Forum: Armchair-GM30 oct 2020 à 14 h 00
Sujet: Chucky Three Trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>buffbry</b></div><div>Wings pass, ghost has been a healthy scratch and terrible since this knee surgery. For us to take that salary philly has to kick in a big piece as a cap dump and will be getting nothing but futures back</div></div>

I'm was/am open to adjusting the Red Wings trade. It was more the point of the trade I wanted to convey. It has 3 guys who need a fresh start. Cholowski, Rubtsov, and Ghost. I felt Ghost had the most upside to offer seeing we've seen him be a solid player before, maybe I didn't take in the contract as much into account because the Red Wings could afford to add it, and if Ghost returns to form he will help drive their offense and PP. But regardless I like the idea of a trade involving a bunch of guys who need a fresh start.
Forum: Armchair-GM29 oct 2020 à 12 h 17
Sujet: interesting improvement idea
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Roscoe</b></div><div>Why do you think the Flyers haven't signed Meyers yet? its not because he is holding out for 2.75. The Flyers would be absolutely lucky if they signed him for what Sanheim makes.

I understand your trade but by your own admission Ghost has the best chance for a bounce back year, so why do it?</div></div>

Looking around the league, there are guys taking bridge deals far below their value due to the flat cap. Myers isn't getting more than the Sanheim deal. Very good player, but looking around the league the absolute most he's getting is the Sanheim deal, but I doubt even that at this point. Most likely getting less. If this is a normal year I'd agree with you, but everyone is taking team friendly deals at this point.
Forum: Armchair-GM23 oct 2020 à 15 h 47
Sujet: Cheveldayoff Finally Gives In
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>carterhart</b></div><div>You're absolutely right, and I don't blame Cheveldayoff for holding out this long. It's kind of a crappy year to have Laine's camp to ask for a trade, with how the market and world is right now. Realistically, one of Sanheim or Konecny should be the main piece. But with the crunch WPG is in because of Laine's request, I feel like they're getting low-balled by every team.

If Laine actually gets moved, I think WPG gets fleeced by the receiving team simply because of that.</div></div>

Fletcher should not entertain any deal starting with Konecny (or provorov for that matter as some suggested). Konecny is on a long term reasonable contract, and Laine is a better scorer no doubt, but he is inconsistent in his own right and I'm not giving up a long term reasonable contract to get a player that isn't consistent enough, and is going to ask for a boat load of money. Sanheim makes the most sense as the key piece of the deal in my eyes though. Flyers would have to make some subsequent deals or sign a free agent defenseman though because trading Sanheim would further deplete our D.
Forum: Armchair-GM22 oct 2020 à 0 h 52
Sujet: A big year
Fatal flaw in the logic of the Patrick trade.... Only way the flyers trade him like this is if they think he's pretty much done. If they decide to trade him then the Sharks will know their assessment of the situation and as a result they'll have no reason to trade 2 2nd rounders for him. Patrick has a 1% chance of being traded this year, and that very tiny 1% close to 0% is only if the Flyers get a big name, and a team takes a risk for Patrick as part of the deal.

Flyers at this point keep Patrick and hope he becomes a good player and can play moving forward. Otherwise we just let him fizzle out. He's not tradeable because his potential is too valuable, but his injury history plummets the chance Philly gets any value in a trade, therefore it makes no sense.


also, the Laine trade is awful for Philly. Not saying the value is necessarily off, but Myers is almost untradeable at this point since Nisky retired. That right side of the defense looks gross. These trades are just poor asset management.