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Équipe: 2020-21 Ducks d'Anaheim
Date de création initiale: 26 août 2020
Publié: 26 août 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Rarely post ACGMs but I was toying around with some ideas. More likely than not these trades wouldnt be final but I think the base of them are solid enough
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
33 000 000 $
Transactions
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ANA
  1. Strome, Dylan [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Is this close? not sure of Stromes value
CHI
  1. Larsson, Jacob
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (ANA)
Détails additionnels:
36 OA
2.
TOR
  1. Jones, Max
  2. Manson, Josh (2 050 000 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (BOS)
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4.
ANA
    Since descriptions rarely get read -->
    ARI
      Went a bit more extreme with trades, unlikely any happen but I'm curious to see feedback here. If they all stink let me know. more curious to see if the base of the deals are solid and can be built on
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      2281 500 000 $76 444 949 $0 $0 $5 055 051 $
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      1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 2
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      8 250 000 $8 250 000 $
      C
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      UFA - 1
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      2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
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      UFA - 1
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      2 463 139 $2 463 139 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 2
      3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
      C
      UFA - 2
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      6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
      AD
      UFA - 4
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      820 000 $820 000 $
      AG
      RFA - 1
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      C, AG
      RFA - 1
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      1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
      AD
      UFA - 3
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      1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 2
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      4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
      C, AD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
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      1 133 333 $1 133 333 $
      C, AD
      UFA - 1
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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      2 602 778 $2 602 778 $
      DG
      UFA - 2
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      3 875 000 $3 875 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 2
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      6 400 000 $6 400 000 $
      G
      UFA - 7
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      6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
      DG/DD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 6
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      4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 1
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      750 000 $750 000 $
      G
      UFA - 1
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      1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 1
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      DG
      UFA - 2
      Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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      700 000 $700 000 $
      C, AG
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
      6 875 000 $6 875 000 $
      C, AD
      NMC
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
      6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
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      26 août 2020 à 14 h 6
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      Chi Rejects, we need a Top LD for Strome
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      26 août 2020 à 14 h 8
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      Quoting: Beetlejuice
      Chi Rejects, we need a Top LD for Strome


      Anything the Ducks have that could be added/changed?
      26 août 2020 à 14 h 9
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      Switch Larsson with Guhle and might be a little better
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      26 août 2020 à 14 h 11
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      Quoting: Salzy
      Anything the Ducks have that could be added/changed?


      I think an Interested deal could be Strome + Nylander for Comtois, Bos 1st
      26 août 2020 à 14 h 11
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      Quoting: ForsbergForVezina
      Switch Larsson with Guhle and might be a little better


      Oh ok, I figured Larsson was a better fit, and I personally value him higher than Guhle. I definitely think theres a trade that can be made there that would benefit both teams
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      26 août 2020 à 14 h 16
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      That'd be a pass from me.
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      26 août 2020 à 14 h 19
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      Quoting: Beetlejuice
      I think an Interested deal could be Strome + Nylander for Comtois, Bos 1st


      I think if the Ducks do move the BOS pick it would be something along the lines of the W.Nylander deal I have here. I don't know if the Ducks want to move Comtois, obviously isnt untouchable but If he gets moved I think it would be in a package for a young top 4 RHD

      Would Guhle move the needle at all over Larsson like @ForsbergForVezina mentioned?
      26 août 2020 à 14 h 19
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      That'd be a pass from me.


      Close at all?
      26 août 2020 à 14 h 19
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      Quoting: Beetlejuice
      I think an Interested deal could be Strome + Nylander for Comtois, Bos 1st


      Nah gonna have to pass but good offer.

      ANA-CHI not possible but asking for a Top LHD is a lil crazy. I don't see us being able to get his services

      ANA-TOR I mean sure. TOR Capfriendly will hate it but I think getting max jones to add to their horrendous bottom 6 as well as getting another 1st round pick for their depleted farm system is great for the organization.

      ANA-BUF I personally say no and coming from someone who hated both of their contracts when they signed I saw the value sorta come through and be worthwhile this season. Trading these guys is pretty much the start of the ultimate rebuild and guarantee us being bad for a while which I like but really fear in a way. That said I know BUF capfriendly says no and rl gm says no to. Rakell and Lindholm will most likely be the next guys traded imo if they ever are.
      26 août 2020 à 14 h 28
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      Quoting: Salzy
      Close at all?


      For me, no. Quality over quantity especially in the Leafs situation and Nylander is by far the best piece in the deal. Manson's a solid #4 that I think would fit well with the Leafs, but I wouldn't consider trading Nylander for him without significant other pieces coming back. Not to say that Jones and a 1st (late though it will be) are nothing, but it's just not enough to close the gap for me. And yeah, they get cap space, but that value is completely dependent on how they use it, which I don't think is the way to go about a Nylander trade. Their RW depth would also be pretty depleted having just traded Kapanen.
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      26 août 2020 à 14 h 30
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      Quoting: BuckoJoyde
      Nah gonna have to pass but good offer.

      ANA-CHI not possible but asking for a Top LHD is a lil crazy. I don't see us being able to get his services

      ANA-TOR I mean sure. TOR Capfriendly will hate it but I think getting max jones to add to their horrendous bottom 6 as well as getting another 1st round pick for their depleted farm system is great for the organization.

      ANA-BUF I personally say no and coming from someone who hated both of their contracts when they signed I saw the value sorta come through and be worthwhile this season. Trading these guys is pretty much the start of the ultimate rebuild and guarantee us being bad for a while which I like but really fear in a way. That said I know BUF capfriendly says no and rl gm says no to. Rakell and Lindholm will most likely be the next guys traded imo if they ever are.


      The most I would give for Strome is Guhle/Larsson + our 2nd, I think thats more than fair, if not I dont think theres a deal there

      I think that deal would be really good for both sides, TOR fills needs and gets another 1st and ANA gets a top flight forward that they need

      That was the one I was most hesitant on. I do think its close value wise. I think going full rebuild is the way to go with how the roster is constructed atm. I cant see Lindholm getting moved tbh, Rakell I can but I dont see a trade for Lindholm unless its the deadline before he's a UFA and he isnt signed
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      26 août 2020 à 14 h 36
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      The most I would give for Strome is Guhle/Larsson + our 2nd, I think thats more than fair, if not I dont think theres a deal there

      I think that deal would be really good for both sides, TOR fills needs and gets another 1st and ANA gets a top flight forward that they need

      That was the one I was most hesitant on. I do think its close value wise. I think going full rebuild is the way to go with how the roster is constructed atm. I cant see Lindholm getting moved tbh, Rakell I can but I dont see a trade for Lindholm unless its the deadline before he's a UFA and he isnt signed


      I agree with most of your points especially with Lindholm. I just assume personally he won't resign. You and me have had this discussion a couple times. We'll just see what happens. Anyways, yea this is a good post overall and starts a discussion. That said, I think Strome can fetch a little more unless its clear CHI won't be resigning him and no better offers come up. Nevertheless, thats the most Id offer.
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      26 août 2020 à 14 h 39
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      Quoting: Salzy
      The most I would give for Strome is Guhle/Larsson + our 2nd, I think thats more than fair, if not I dont think theres a deal there

      I think that deal would be really good for both sides, TOR fills needs and gets another 1st and ANA gets a top flight forward that they need

      That was the one I was most hesitant on. I do think its close value wise. I think going full rebuild is the way to go with how the roster is constructed atm. I cant see Lindholm getting moved tbh, Rakell I can but I dont see a trade for Lindholm unless its the deadline before he's a UFA and he isnt signed


      That value is not even close. Why should the Leafs make that trade? This is kind of saying Nylander is worth more or less the same as Kapanen, which is crazy to say
      26 août 2020 à 14 h 41
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      That value is not even close. Why should the Leafs make that trade? This is kind of saying Nylander is worth more or less the same as Kapanen, which is crazy to say


      Everyone knows Kap got way more than what he was worth. Rutherford was desperate and it showed. a top 4 shutdown D at 2M for 2 years, a good young winger and a 1st is a very good return, sure it might not be enough but to say it isnt close at all is ridiculous
      26 août 2020 à 14 h 44
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      Everyone knows Kap got way more than what he was worth. Rutherford was desperate and it showed. a top 4 shutdown D at 2M for 2 years, a good young winger and a 1st is a very good return, sure it might not be enough but to say it isnt close at all is ridiculous


      I would not give more than Johnsson and a 3rd for Manson.

      Nylander is an extremely talented player, Manson is not. Manson is solid, but nothing more
      26 août 2020 à 14 h 48
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      Quoting: Gordon_Bombay
      That value is not even close. Why should the Leafs make that trade? This is kind of saying Nylander is worth more or less the same as Kapanen, which is crazy to say


      Look at my post for reason. Ill add to it. The Marlies were bad, TOR has no young prospects coming up other than LHD Sandin and Liljegren maybe, Max jones(former 1st) adds to the bottom six in speed and skill, and Manson is a RHD basically that fills a spot for cheap. If you think he's bad or Cody Ceci eh do more research. If you think he not your guy fair enough. Good luck acquiring another RHD like Elis or Parayko. Is Manson your only option? No. Is he a decent affordable one? Yes. Is this too much? Maybe. But time will tell.
      26 août 2020 à 14 h 53
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      Quoting: BuckoJoyde
      Look at my post for reason. Ill add to it. The Marlies were bad, TOR has no young prospects coming up other than LHD Sandin and Liljegren maybe, Max jones(former 1st) adds to the bottom six in speed and skill, and Manson is a RHD basically that fills a spot for cheap. If you think he's bad or Cody Ceci eh do more research. If you think he not your guy fair enough. Good luck acquiring another RHD like Elis or Parayko. Is Manson your only option? No. Is he a decent affordable one? Yes. Is this too much? Maybe. But time will tell.


      You don't see the value of Nylander I think. 15th best goal scorer in the NHL last season, much younger.

      Manson is probably worth Johnsson and a 3rd or so, or at least I would not really pay much more.

      I don't think the Leafs need an expensive solution for playing in their top4
      26 août 2020 à 15 h 5
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      Quoting: Gordon_Bombay
      You don't see the value of Nylander I think. 15th best goal scorer in the NHL last season, much younger.

      Manson is probably worth Johnsson and a 3rd or so, or at least I would not really pay much more.

      I don't think the Leafs need an expensive solution for playing in their top4


      Oh I agree he's slotted in our 1st line right away. Does this trade get it down? In a post Cheecks Klapanen to PIT trade? Maybe?

      Manson is worth a little bit more currently.

      Not needing an expensive top 4 RHD I also agree, but what are more suitable options? Demelo(3ish mill) Gudas( 2ish mill) Run it back with Barrie? I don't think there are any thats the issue.

      Overall what I'm saying is I wouldn't be surprised if and or expect the same problems to occur. TOR might switch it up and started acquiring more future talent and picks.

      After losing to the Canes before that deadline I was genuinely shocked Dubas didn't sell anything in preparation for the 20-21 season.

      Nonetheless, in a reasonable world this deal isn't it imo.
       
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