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Créé par: Chigurrhh
Équipe: 2020-21 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 20 août 2020
Publié: 20 août 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Angry at all the analytics computer boys and dumb fans, Jim Rutherford has decided to double down on the Jack Johnson experiment.

Rasmus Ristoleinen - Basically young Jack Johnson. Terrible on ice impact, zero hockey sense, and got some points on the power play.

Erik Gudbranson - Large defenseman drafted 3rd overall like Jack who doesn't fit the modern NHL.

Cody Ceci - Analytics whipping boy who is also defended by his GM, though to a less insane degree. Does hilariously bad things when he has the puck on his stick.

Jonathan Ericsson - By any metric, he can't play anymore. Jim will prove all the metrics wrong.

Nikita Zaitsev - Russian Jack Johnson
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20 août 2020 à 17 h 46
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Eastern conference forwards and computer boys everywhere are shaking in their boots
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20 août 2020 à 17 h 49
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Hey man Guddy has been solid for the Ducks
20 août 2020 à 17 h 53
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Hey man Guddy has been solid for the Ducks


Nice try
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20 août 2020 à 17 h 54
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this is either:
1- GMJR trying to raise the value of JJ. if he sat in the interview and said he sucked, it would only hurt his trade value further
2- GMJR absolutely has no idea what he's doing regarding JJ. GMJR has MANY times moved guys quickly after he acquired them: brassard, Perron, Pearson, reaves, Hunwick, Kahun, Gudbranson, etc... so its not like he's worried about saving face. Ill give Rutherford credit, when one of his experiments don't work out, he doesn't waste any time and moves on from them. He cuts his loses. Johnson is arguably his biggest mistake and I would be absolutely baffled if he doesn't move on from this one.
20 août 2020 à 18 h 0
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Quoting: mhockey91
this is either:
1- GMJR trying to raise the value of JJ. if he sat in the interview and said he sucked, it would only hurt his trade value further
2- GMJR absolutely has no idea what he's doing regarding JJ. GMJR has MANY times moved guys quickly after he acquired them: brassard, Perron, Pearson, reaves, Hunwick, Kahun, Gudbranson, etc... so its not like he's worried about saving face. Ill give Rutherford credit, when one of his experiments don't work out, he doesn't waste any time and moves on from them. He cuts his loses. Johnson is arguably his biggest mistake and I would be absolutely baffled if he doesn't move on from this one.


Problem is that he doesn't recognize it's a mistake. He's doubled down on what he's said since day one. And Sullivan is on board too. Look at his ice time in the series against Montreal.
20 août 2020 à 18 h 2
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Nice try


It’s actually funny because he has. He and Fowler were the ducks best pair last season. 50.5% corsi 99 PDO with 57.7% stone starts. Not the best dman in the world but at least a serviceable NHL dman.
20 août 2020 à 18 h 6
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Problem is that he doesn't recognize it's a mistake. He's doubled down on what he's said since day one. And Sullivan is on board too. Look at his ice time in the series against Montreal.


I honestly wonder if Crosby has anything to do with this. If Sid told management he doesn't want his best friend Jack Johnson traded, that might be a reason
20 août 2020 à 18 h 7
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I honestly wonder if Crosby has anything to do with this. If Sid told management he doesn't want his best friend Jack Johnson traded, that might be a reason


Traded is one thing. Getting as much ice time as Sid in an elimination game is a whole other issue and points to coaching.
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20 août 2020 à 18 h 9
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It’s actually funny because he has. He and Fowler were the ducks best pair last season. 50.5% corsi 99 PDO with 57.7% stone starts. Not the best dman in the world but at least a serviceable NHL dman.


Oh he's definitely a serviceable d-man its just I'm happy we got rid of his contract. Marino basically cost him his job
20 août 2020 à 18 h 9
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Traded is one thing. Getting as much ice time as Sid in an elimination game is a whole other issue and points to coaching.


agreed. im already calling that Sullivan is fired midway through next season. Give Mike Vellucci a chance
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Oh he's definitely a serviceable d-man its just I'm happy we got rid of his contract. Marino basically cost him his job


As a ducks fan getting him for a 7th and watching him allow Fowler have his best year in a long time makes it worth it too.
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20 août 2020 à 18 h 12
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I honestly wonder if Crosby has anything to do with this. If Sid told management he doesn't want his best friend Jack Johnson traded, that might be a reason


Then we should trade him too. Ok I’m joking. I don’t mind Crosby having input, but having that much input is a bit concerning. Cause apparently he has a lot of input of who gets put on his line, which is why we don’t see Hornqvist on the line as much and why Guentzel went back to Crosby over Malkin.
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20 août 2020 à 18 h 16
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Serious lack of Cody Ceci
20 août 2020 à 18 h 25
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Serious lack of Cody Ceci


He's on the team.
20 août 2020 à 18 h 42
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I heard Seabrook is related to JJ, maybe second cousins? Might be worth getting the family together.
20 août 2020 à 18 h 49
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Lol the difference between Risto and JJ is that Risto isn't a complete potato and munches minutes on a crap team
20 août 2020 à 19 h 6
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Lol the difference between Risto and JJ is that Risto isn't a complete potato and munches minutes on a crap team


You are describing a young Jack Johnson.
20 août 2020 à 19 h 7
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As a ducks fan getting him for a 7th and watching him allow Fowler have his best year in a long time makes it worth it too.


See it worked for both teams
20 août 2020 à 19 h 14
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You are describing a young Jack Johnson.


He is 8 years younger, I'm not worried. He might become just as bad later on in his career but as of right now he is a top 4 D
20 août 2020 à 19 h 18
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this is either:
1- GMJR trying to raise the value of JJ. if he sat in the interview and said he sucked, it would only hurt his trade value further
2- GMJR absolutely has no idea what he's doing regarding JJ. GMJR has MANY times moved guys quickly after he acquired them: brassard, Perron, Pearson, reaves, Hunwick, Kahun, Gudbranson, etc... so its not like he's worried about saving face. Ill give Rutherford credit, when one of his experiments don't work out, he doesn't waste any time and moves on from them. He cuts his loses. Johnson is arguably his biggest mistake and I would be absolutely baffled if he doesn't move on from this one.


Quoting: Chigurrhh
Problem is that he doesn't recognize it's a mistake. He's doubled down on what he's said since day one. And Sullivan is on board too. Look at his ice time in the series against Montreal.


You know, the thing with GMJR is that he’s able to admit when things aren’t working out with most players. But for Jack, I’ve never seen a GM defend a player to this extent. This is why I don’t buy into the GM sweet talk narrative, just doesn’t seem like they have any intention to get him out of the lineup.
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20 août 2020 à 19 h 19
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You know, the thing with GMJR is that he’s able to admit when things aren’t working out with most players. But for Jack, I’ve never seen a GM defend a player to this extent. This is why I don’t buy into the GM sweet talk narrative, just doesn’t seem like they have any intention to get him out of the lineup.


I guess we will find out. id be shocked if they dont move him
20 août 2020 à 19 h 21
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I guess we will find out. id be shocked if they dont move him


Agree he’s been a liability for this team.
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20 août 2020 à 19 h 22
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He is 8 years younger, I'm not worried. He might become just as bad later on in his career but as of right now he is a top 4 D


He has a negative impact on his team when he's on the ice. Him playing a lot of minutes is a bad thing.
20 août 2020 à 20 h 36
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He has a negative impact on his team when he's on the ice. Him playing a lot of minutes is a bad thing.


I agree he shouldn't play that much but who else would we play for 25+ mins? Now Dahlin is ready to take the brunt of it and Joki is coming along but before them it was either Risto, Bogosian, or Gorges to take those mins
20 août 2020 à 21 h 46
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I agree he shouldn't play that much but who else would we play for 25+ mins? Now Dahlin is ready to take the brunt of it and Joki is coming along but before them it was either Risto, Bogosian, or Gorges to take those mins


Literally anyone else. He should have been traded years ago.
 
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