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Créé par: Hawkisles
Équipe: 2020-21 Islanders de New York
Date de création initiale: 8 août 2020
Publié: 8 août 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Boychuk and Ladd have both had injury riddled careers and both sustained injuries this year. Boychuk in particular left the playoffs with a head injury. I feel like people are exaggerating how hard it is to get players on to the LTIR. Quality of Life concerns abound for those two. The Leafs have done it. The Isles have done it before with Visnovsky. The Isles should be able to do it here.

With all that said, I think the Isles should be just fine from a cap perspective so long as they can use the LTIR to keep Boychuk and Ladd on the books but not count towards the cap. They could go for a bigger piece like Hall or Hoffman, but I think with future cap concerns being what they are, I think a short term piece that fits perfectly into Trotz' system would work just fine. This would also leave more space to give all of Barzal, Pulock and Toews longer term deals. This team desperately needs stability. We've had too much UFA heartbreak for too long, let's just keep the main pieces in house and grow them into stars.

To handle next year's cap concerns, we can buyout Komarov (1,666,000 penalty next year, 660,000 penalty the following year; sounds like a great deal to me) and trade Bailey and/or Varlamov. Bailey's looked good and Varlamov has looked great this playoff series.
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    8 août 2020 à 15 h 19
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    Ladd likely won’t go to the LTIR he has played a lot since his last injury and is in the bubble/practicing.. boychuk is a different story but you likely have to dump the Ladd contract with a high pick/prospect
    8 août 2020 à 15 h 22
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    I’m not sure if ladd will go on LTIR this offseason, but by mid season - next offseason he should be on there for good. Chronic back issues, two knee surgeries in the last 2 years, the next injury could affect his quality of life after hockey
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    8 août 2020 à 15 h 22
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    You know we've made you a standing offer for Leddy and Komarov, right?
    8 août 2020 à 15 h 35
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    You know we've made you a standing offer for Leddy and Komarov, right?


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    The whole Leddy/Komarov for a 7th deal? People seem to either love it or hate it, so I went with something that wouldn’t distract from the point of the post.
    8 août 2020 à 15 h 53
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    Quoting: Isles777
    I’m not sure if ladd will go on LTIR this offseason, but by mid season - next offseason he should be on there for good. Chronic back issues, two knee surgeries in the last 2 years, the next injury could affect his quality of life after hockey


    Fair point. But I think he knows he’s done playing in the NHL. If not, the we forget about Simmonds and plug in Bellows. I’d honestly prefer a Bellows-Pageau-Wahlstrom line, I just can’t see Trotz doing it.

    Either way, I think Boychuk is destined for LTIR next season and that alone gives us the space to get all our guys signed.
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    The whole Leddy/Komarov for a 7th deal? People seem to either love it or hate it, so I went with something that wouldn’t distract from the point of the post.


    I think that the eventual deal would be a low-level (5-7) pick in each of 2020 and 2021. I think that's enough to discount the cap aspects of the exchange, despite what my SoCal colleagues think.
    8 août 2020 à 16 h 4
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    Fair point. But I think he knows he’s done playing in the NHL. If not, the we forget about Simmonds and plug in Bellows. I’d honestly prefer a Bellows-Pageau-Wahlstrom line, I just can’t see Trotz doing it.

    Either way, I think Boychuk is destined for LTIR next season and that alone gives us the space to get all our guys signed.


    I think bellows will be moved this offseason to dump a contract. Wahlstrom should make the team the next season, they need someone will his skill set.

    I want nothing to do with Wayne Simmonds lol - he was awful this year. I’d rather sign brassard to another cheap 1 year deal
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    8 août 2020 à 16 h 24
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    Quoting: Hawkisles
    The whole Leddy/Komarov for a 7th deal? People seem to either love it or hate it, so I went with something that wouldn’t distract from the point of the post.



    fans of other teams don't like it? or the isles fans? seems like a good deal from the isles side
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    fans of other teams don't like it? or the isles fans? seems like a good deal from the isles side


    From what I can tell:

    Isles fans like it fine, an LA fan (don't quote me on who) originally posted it, LA fans want an 2nd pairing LD for cheap, but aren't enthused by Leddy specifically, and then you have the crowd of people who think you need to shed assets to trade away any big contract that isn't McDavid.
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    Quoting: Isles777
    I think bellows will be moved this offseason to dump a contract. Wahlstrom should make the team the next season, they need someone will his skill set.

    I want nothing to do with Wayne Simmonds lol - he was awful this year. I’d rather sign brassard to another cheap 1 year deal


    I think Wayne Simmonds did awful on awful teams. On a team that gives power forwards plenty of minutes and wouldn't expect more than 35-40 point from him, I think he could do very well. He'd be an awesome fit on a Barry Trotz team in my opinion. And while Brassard wasn't horrible, I don't think he's a good fit on this roster. If we're going to have an old veteran on the 3rd line like Trotz wants, let's at least have him be a power forward who can hit and play defensively in case he falls short of our offensive expectations.

    I'm against losing any assets to shed bad contracts. We really can just LTIR a lot of our liabilities (their injuries were half of the reason they're liabilities in the first place) and then shed Leddy for a low return if we want enough room to sign all of our RFAs this offseason. And why shed Bellows? I thought he looked good in his call up and we don't have any LW prospects behind him that I think have Top 6 potential. Maaaaybe Durandeau, but I doubt it. And how would we replace him on the depth chart? We don't have a 1st rounder this year or any time soon that can reliably draft a Top 6 potential LW.
    8 août 2020 à 17 h 32
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    I think Wayne Simmonds did awful on awful teams. On a team that gives power forwards plenty of minutes and wouldn't expect more than 35-40 point from him, I think he could do very well. He'd be an awesome fit on a Barry Trotz team in my opinion. And while Brassard wasn't horrible, I don't think he's a good fit on this roster. If we're going to have an old veteran on the 3rd line like Trotz wants, let's at least have him be a power forward who can hit and play defensively in case he falls short of our offensive expectations.

    I'm against losing any assets to shed bad contracts. We really can just LTIR a lot of our liabilities (their injuries were half of the reason they're liabilities in the first place) and then shed Leddy for a low return if we want enough room to sign all of our RFAs this offseason. And why shed Bellows? I thought he looked good in his call up and we don't have any LW prospects behind him that I think have Top 6 potential. Maaaaybe Durandeau, but I doubt it. And how would we replace him on the depth chart? We don't have a 1st rounder this year or any time soon that can reliably draft a Top 6 potential LW.


    Wayne Simmonds was a bottom 5 shooter in the league this season. If you put wahlstrom with pageau (who are both shooters) you need someone who is at least a decent playmaker. Brassard was not good at center this season, but he was above average offensively and defensively as a winger. Simmonds is slow and he’s been below replacement level for 3 straight seasons now. Sure he can throw his weight around, but he’s not even good defensively. The most I’d give him is a 1 year 850 k deal. Giving him term would be a huge mistake, the isles can’t afford to give term to another bottom 6 winger.

    I’m not saying bellows will definitely be moved, but they didn’t bring him into the bubble (he’s already 22) and Arthur staple said the organization is not high on him for whatever reason. I don’t agree with it, I believe he should be in the lineup right now.

    I’m pretty sure Holmstrom can play both wings and Ruslan iskhakov will likely be a lw in the NHL (he played center for UConn)
    9 août 2020 à 16 h 58
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    Wayne Simmonds isn't good at hockey anymore, I wouldn't do that.

    We gotta yeet Nick Leddy to the moon though
     
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