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Créé par: leafschamp

Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto

Date de création initiale: 5 août 2020

Publié: 5 août 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Obviously RHD is the position Toronto wants to Improve on. Columbus was reportedly high on Marner last season when he was an RFA. With Marner, Columbus gets an offensive weapon they need who plays penalty kill as well. They also get Dermott who could blossom to a solid top 4 for years to come. You also get Bracco who hasn't had an opportunity with the leafs but was at one time considered a very good prospect for Toronto who may thrive given an opportunity in Columbus...a bit of a gamble. Toronto gets the #1 RHD d man they're looking for as well as a veteran presence for their bottom 6 forward group. RHD is at a premium and one of the best in the league in his prime will not cost cheap. All in all, I highly doubt Columbus ever considers trading Jones (unless he's thinking about testing free agency) and also I highly doubt Toronto trades Marner (if there's one player I believe has the best chance to stay a Leaf for his career on the roster, it's Marner).

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Mikheyev, Ilya	2	2 250 000 $
Gauthier, Frédérik	2	925 000 $
Malgin, Denis	2	925 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Clifford, Kyle		2	1 750 000 $

Transactions

TOR

Jones, Caleb
Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (EDM)

EDM

Johnsson, Andreas

TOR

CBJ

Bracco, Jeremy [Droits de RFA]
Dermott, Travis [Droits de RFA]
Marner, Mitchell

Rachats de contrats

Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2020
2021
2022

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	81 500 000 $	78 706 783 $	0 $	400 000 $	2 793 217 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Hyman, Zach 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston 11 640 250 $11 640 250 $ C UFA - 4	Nylander, William 6 962 366 $6 962 366 $ AD UFA - 4
Robertson, Nicholas 821 667 $821 667 $ AG, AD RFA - 4	Tavares, John 11 000 000 $11 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 5	Mikheyev, Ilya 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2
Barabanov, Alexander 925 000 $925 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1	Kerfoot, Alexander 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 3	Kapanen, Kasperi 3 200 000 $3 200 000 $ AD UFA - 2
Clifford, Kyle 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ AG UFA - 2	Engvall, Pierre 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
		Nash, Riley 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Rielly, Morgan 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Jones, Seth 5 400 000 $5 400 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 2	Andersen, Frederik 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 1
Muzzin, Jake 5 625 000 $5 625 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 4	Liljegren, Timothy 863 333 $863 333 $ (400 000 $$400K) DD RFA - 2	Campbell, Jack 1 650 000 $1 650 000 $ G UFA - 2
Sandin, Rasmus 894 167 $894 167 $ DG UFA - 2	Holl, Justin 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 3

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Lehtonen, Mikko 925 000 $925 000 $ DG UFA - 1
Gauthier, Frédérik 925 000 $925 000 $ C UFA - 1
Malgin, Denis 925 000 $925 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

5 août 2020 à 16 h 18

Ajp_18

Rejoint: mars 2018

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NO.... Columbus isn’t trading Jones for Marner. We can’t afford Marners contract and when Savard leaves as a UFA Columbus won’t have a top 4 RHD.

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5 août 2020 à 16 h 26

Nhl_oilers

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And Edmonton isn’t trading Jones for Johnsson. We also don’t have the cap, and that’s too much to give for him.

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5 août 2020 à 16 h 29

Unbiased_Hawks_Fan

Unbiased Hawks Fan

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As good as he is, Marner's contract is immovable.

5 août 2020 à 16 h 33

MMXD

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I like the jones idea

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5 août 2020 à 16 h 50

Nhl_oilers

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Quoting: MMXD

I like the jones idea

Which one? Haha

5 août 2020 à 17 h 38

Viqsi

mostly harmless

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No. Every Seth Jones proposal. All of them. The answer is no.

5 août 2020 à 17 h 41

PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood

Banni

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Quoting: Ajp_18

NO.... Columbus isn’t trading Jones for Marner. We can’t afford Marners contract and when Savard leaves as a UFA Columbus won’t have a top 4 RHD.

Columbus reportedly offered Marner and offersheet, so apparently they were willing to pay him big money. But let's just go with no one wants a 90+ point player because it's smarter to pay 3 guys the same amount to watch them all score 30 points.

5 août 2020 à 17 h 57

Tkachinla

Rejoint: juill. 2016

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Gaudreau for Marner straight up. TOR gets the cap savings. And gets much worse.

Let's do it.

There is no deal that TOR and CLB could strike that sees Jones leaving CLB...Jones is 50% the cap hit of Marner...and even if TOR could afford to split the difference by retaining salary on Marner, Jones is far more valuable. We're talking about a Top 5 RD in the entire league here...in his prime...at a $5.4M cap hit...and with a NTC.

Would need to get really, really creative with a third team involved to somehow make it work. Even then, the price for Jones is astronomical.

5 août 2020 à 18 h 26

Ajp_18

Rejoint: mars 2018

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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood

Offersheet is different. Trading your best player for him is something else. Columbus would have to move someone else to make the cap work and now we’re down Jones and that other player for Marner at the very least and for a team built on defence trading their best defenseman for a wing isn’t a good option. Would I pay 4 1sts and no signs Nyqvist for Marner 100%. Would I trade Jones+ for Marner not a chance. Columbus adds Marner to the roster those 1sts are early 20s, we move Jones for Marner and Columbus is really not much better Or even better at all then they are now if PLD is the other player who leaves via an offersheet that MTL keeps threatening.

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5 août 2020 à 20 h 14

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PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood

Banni

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Quoting: Ajp_18

You offence is a problem, having a 90 point player makes you a better team. Even at the cost of Jones. You do have good depth on D. That is clear.

5 août 2020 à 20 h 18

#11

MMXD

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Quoting: Nhl_oilers

Which one? Haha

Damn right, the Caleb Jones idea

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5 août 2020 à 20 h 34

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Ajp_18

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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood

You offence is a problem, having a 90 point player makes you a better team. Even at the cost of Jones. You do have good depth on D. That is clear.

If you mean 3rd pair players or a constantly injured Murray sure. This also means we probably have to lose both Savard and Murray to make the 11 mil contract work.

You’re right offense is the issue, but there’s other ways to fix that that don’t give your roster a crippling whole, because Savard and Jones are the only 2 RHD we have and Peeke is the only one who’s top 4 rated prospect. I’ve come to realize that Columbus d strength is on the left side, we have a good, but very limited right side, we can’t afford to move one for a wing. Maybe for a center, but not a wing.

5 août 2020 à 21 h 7

#13

Viqsi

mostly harmless

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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood

You offence is a problem, having a 90 point player makes you a better team. Even at the cost of Jones. You do have good depth on D. That is clear.

There's literally nothing the Leafs have that makes giving up Jones worthwhile. (Well, maybe Matthews would do, although we'd be in contract trouble as a result).

If you'd like those four 1sts in exchange for Marner, though (replicating the offersheet scenario), then let's talk.

5 août 2020 à 23 h 15

#14

PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood

Banni

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Quoting: Ajp_18

Depends on what the GM is going to be facing pressure wise. If you can't score enough to win, that's going to put heat under management.

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