Fixing the Cap situation v2

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Créé par: Tmclean64

Équipe: 2020-21 Canucks de Vancouver

Date de création initiale: 23 juill. 2020

Publié: 23 juill. 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

As a fan of both these teams I think this deal is more than fair for both sides and makes them both better. Detroit needs a goalie for the future and the Canucks need cap space. Some Det fans seem to think theyre going to fleece everyone heavily on these trades but the fact is there really isnt a whole lot of other options for Detroit here to get their guy. They get two really good young players who can help now and despite what some people think Louie also males this team better easily making the lineup. These teams align perfectly with one another to make this trade happen. Kole Lind has really impressed this season and has taken another step at our summer camp. He looks ready to play next season as well.

Jordie Benn is an upgrade over Hutton for sure. He also fits the Kings style of play on Defense.

The Virtanen trade makes Montreal instantly better. They also have 2 more second round picks to add young players to the system

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Gaudette, Adam	2	2 000 000 $
MacEwen, Zack	2	900 000 $
Motte, Tyler	2	900 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Tanev, Christopher	3	4 500 000 $
Toffoli, Tyler	5	5 500 000 $
Markström, Jacob	6	6 000 000 $
Leivo, Josh	1	1 500 000 $

CRÉÉ		ANS	CAP HIT
Overage, Bonus		1	1 700 000 $

Transactions

VAN

Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (LAK)

LAK

Benn, Jordie
Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (VAN)

VAN

Bernier, Jonathan

DET

VAN

Balcers, Rūdolfs [Droits de RFA]

Détails additionnels:

Balcers replaces Sven in Utica and gives the Comets a roster player for a year.

OTT

Baertschi, Sven
Stecher, Troy [Droits de RFA]

Détails additionnels:

This trade makes the Sens better right away and frees up some cap space for the Canucks. Sven and Stecher wpuld serve as great spot holders for all the young draft picks this team has and allows them to develop them vs bringing them up too soon.

VAN

Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (MTL)

Détails additionnels:

Canucks are strapped for cash which will make it very tough to keep everyone. Tough to trade this kid but I think he might be the odd man out as trading him should return some value vs other guys we could move.

MTL

Virtanen, Jake [Droits de RFA]

Détails additionnels:

Trade is made at the draft, assuming the Canadiens dont win the 2nd lottery and the pick falls in the 40-47 zone. Jake adds an element of size to a small group of forwards and brings plenty of speed along with him that fits the Habs style of play well.

Rachats de contrats

Ryan Spooner: 1 033 333 $

Frais appliqués

Roberto Luongo: 3 035 212 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2020
2021
2022

FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
24	81 500 000 $	80 973 545 $	1 700 000 $	5 400 000 $	526 455 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Miller, J.T. 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 3	Pettersson, Elias 925 000 $925 000 $ (2 850 000 $$3M) C, AG UFA - 1	Toffoli, Tyler 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 4
Pearson, Tanner 3 750 000 $3 750 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Horvat, Bo 4 125 000 $4 125 000 $ C UFA - 3	Boeser, Brock 5 875 000 $5 875 000 $ AD UFA - 2
Ferland, Micheal 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, AD NMC UFA - 3	Gaudette, Adam 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	MacEwen, Zack 900 000 $900 000 $ AD, C UFA - 2
Roussel, Antoine 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ AG M-NTC UFA - 2	Beagle, Jay 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 2	Sutter, Brandon 4 375 000 $4 375 000 $ AD, C M-NTC UFA - 1
Motte, Tyler 900 000 $900 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2		Leivo, Josh 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Hughes, Quinn 916 667 $916 667 $ (850 000 $$850K) DG UFA - 1	Tanev, Christopher 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ DD UFA - 4	Markström, Jacob 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ G UFA - 6
Edler, Alexander 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 1	Rafferty, Brogan 700 000 $700 000 $ DD UFA - 1
Juolevi, Olli 863 333 $863 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) DG UFA - 1	Myers, Tyler 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ DD NTC UFA - 4	Bernier, Jonathan 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ G UFA - 1
Rathbone, Jack 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) DG UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Overage, Bonus 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $

23 juill. 2020 à 11 h 44

CLR

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Done deal (MTL)

23 juill. 2020 à 11 h 47

DiehardRedWingsFan58

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Detroit's not taking Demko then trading our only other Goalie in Bernier. We can't afford that.

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23 juill. 2020 à 11 h 47

DiehardRedWingsFan58

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Detroit's not taking Demko then trading our only other Goalie in Bernier. We can't afford that.

23 juill. 2020 à 11 h 48

BStinson

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You’re undervaluing Virtanen. The Detroit trade is interesting since you’d be taking back 3M in cap but with your bonus would carryover. I’d prefer Hoglander as I think him and Grewe would make teams extremely salty but they’re both good.

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23 juill. 2020 à 12 h 0

palhal

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Instead of spending 10m on two UFAs, Toffelli and Tanev just keep some of the younger guys.

23 juill. 2020 à 12 h 17

Tmclean64

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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58

Detroit's not taking Demko then trading our only other Goalie in Bernier. We can't afford that.

Of course they can.. Howard would be a solid 1 yr mentor and backup to him. Or the Wings could sign a ufa backup for the year there are plenty of solid guys available.

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23 juill. 2020 à 12 h 22

Tmclean64

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Quoting: palhal

Instead of spending 10m on two UFAs, Toffelli and Tanev just keep some of the younger guys.

Cause Toffoli and Tanev make the team alot better than Virtanen and Stecher IMO. Both of those guys have been beat out of special teams roles and only play 5v5 minutes.

23 juill. 2020 à 12 h 23

Tmclean64

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Quoting: CLR

Done deal (MTL)

Would you also do this for Chicagos pick in the mid 30's?

23 juill. 2020 à 12 h 44

TCMonkey

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HA. How does that trade make the SENS better? I'd rather just take the money it would cost us to sign Stecher to a one-year deal and re-up Hainsey or some other UFA while NOT taking Baertschi and NOT giving up Balcers. You can pretend he's got no value but he just turned 23 in April and has 115 points in 143 AHL games. He still has NHL potential.

23 juill. 2020 à 12 h 58

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I don’t think van would need to include Lind in that deal. I understand cap dump but the part that gets lost when dumping cap is it doesn’t really cost huge prices to do so. Term is harder to dump and he doesn’t have any term that would be problem to digest while adding a player that could be very capable of playing a depth role. Would Detroit really say no and risk loosing out on that option to Ottawa who could also use a young goalie with upside and nhl experience I think not. This site dramatically over values cap dumps while I don’t think you dramatically went crazy here it’s still more than I think Is actually needed.

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23 juill. 2020 à 13 h 0

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CLR

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Quoting: Tmclean64

Would you also do this for Chicagos pick in the mid 30's?

It’s about de same pick

23 juill. 2020 à 13 h 56

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Kotkaniemi15

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We’re not trading for that piece of crap Virtanen. The habs aren’t in the business of trading for problem players, especially one that’s a healthy scratch, and that high 2nd could be a great way to fill our need at RHD.

23 juill. 2020 à 15 h 30

#13

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Quoting: Tmclean64

Of course they can.. Howard would be a solid 1 yr mentor and backup to him. Or the Wings could sign a ufa backup for the year there are plenty of solid guys available.

They could do it but it's extremely unlikely they do it.

23 juill. 2020 à 23 h 25

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Tmclean64

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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15

I dont think you know the player very well if you're calling him a piece of crap. He's a healthy scratch? I didnt realize the playoffs had already started.. Kid had 18G, 18A this year and showed a ton of improvement. Would love to keep him around but we have too many **** contracts and theres no way we can move enough of them to resign all of our ufas n rfas.

23 juill. 2020 à 23 h 28

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Tmclean64

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Quoting: TCMonkey

Sven is an NHL player, Balcers is not. Nikolay Goldobin was a point per game player in the AHL, so was Reid Boucher. Doesnt necesarily mean it automatically translates to value. And neither of them could make the jump to the National League.

24 juill. 2020 à 10 h 8

#16

Kotkaniemi15

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Quoting: Tmclean64

Whether Virtanen ends up as a scratch in the playoffs or not, this points to a larger issue with his attitude and mindset. He’s clearly skilled enough to make the Canucks roster, so there’s obviously a problem. And I would never bring in a player with as much disregard for people’s lives as a person who goes out to a nightclub without a mask, and it being just a few weeks away from him re-joining his teammates.

Yes, I would call someone that risks the lives of himself AND the people around him, a piece of crap.

24 juill. 2020 à 12 h 14

#17

TCMonkey

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Quoting: Tmclean64

Sven cleared waivers TWICE already this season, so let's not pretend any team will give something up to get him when no one took him for free. As I've already said, our money is better spent elsewhere. And Stecher is just Chris WIdeman in a different jersey. NO THANKS.

24 juill. 2020 à 13 h 31

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brocklesnar

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VAN is not moving Virtanen

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