SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Trade Machine Proposals

Would they

Créé par: McEwen
Publié: 19 juill. 2020 à 21 h 38
Plafond salarial: 81 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 41/186 (22%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

Logo de Oilers d'EdmontonOilers d'Edmonton

La transaction a eu lieu alors que la LTIR est utilisée
Allègement provenant de la liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR): 925 000 $
Portion de la LTIR utilisée avant la transaction: 442 500 $
DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Bouchard, EvanExempté du ballottageOilers d'EdmontonMineures-0 $011---0000--
Lavoie, RaphaelExempté du ballottageOilers d'EdmontonMineures-0 $011---0000--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Kotkaniemi, JesperiExempté du ballottageCanadiens de MontréalMineures-0 $011---36628--
Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (Logo de Blackhawks de ChicagoCHI)---010------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial482 500 $2549653411
Variation0 $0-1-1010
Final482 500 $2548 (↓)64 (↓)35 (↑)11628

Logo de Canadiens de MontréalCanadiens de Montréal

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Kotkaniemi, JesperiExempté du ballottageCanadiens de MontréalMineures-0 $011---36628--
Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (Logo de Blackhawks de ChicagoCHI)---010------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Bouchard, EvanExempté du ballottageOilers d'EdmontonMineures-0 $011---0000--
Lavoie, RaphaelExempté du ballottageOilers d'EdmontonMineures-0 $011---0000--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial6 181 191 $21466231019
Variation0 $0110-10
Final6 181 191 $2147 (↑)63 (↑)39 (↓)19-6-20
19 juill. 2020 à 21 h 41
#1
DM
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2020
Messages: 41
Mentions "j'aime": 5
"Big" prospects like this rarely get moved...but even so this is interesting to address needs. Montreal gets a promising RHD and Edmonton gets a 3C with significant upside. Perhaps this might be a good fit to help Jesse P resign and flank a fellow Finn.
19 juill. 2020 à 22 h 9
#2
Fanboys make bad Gms
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: déc. 2018
Messages: 4,055
Mentions "j'aime": 2,084
Quoting: McEwen
"Big" prospects like this rarely get moved...but even so this is interesting to address needs. Montreal gets a promising RHD and Edmonton gets a 3C with significant upside. Perhaps this might be a good fit to help Jesse P resign and flank a fellow Finn.


So, I understand the idea but EDM has been dealing with a problem for the last 15 years called "why can't our defensemen play hockey?" and I think Bouchard is too much of a slam dunk for them to move.
When EDM makes a big move next, it'll involve RNH and it'll get back a young winger and an established defensemen better than Adam Larsson. After that they will try to fill out their depth forwards cheaply and be a top 6 + top 4 D good team looking for solid netminding. This deal would set that plan back and I don't think they have a plan B they are interested in.
kafle22, vmark et Remus a aimé ceci.
20 juill. 2020 à 1 h 15
#3
Kafle
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2019
Messages: 2,467
Mentions "j'aime": 483
terrible deal for oilers. They give up a possible number 1 and a potential top 6 player for a player who people think at best is gonna be a 3c
20 juill. 2020 à 9 h 38
#4
HutsonNorlinderGuhle
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2020
Messages: 2,768
Mentions "j'aime": 1,377
We have Romanov, we don’t need Bouchard(even if the hands are messed up. idc.) Bergevin is stuck with KK now. It looks bad when you trade a guy you really frickin REACHED for at the draft. I think neither team accepts
20 juill. 2020 à 11 h 0
#5
Former Hockey Fan
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2017
Messages: 13,144
Mentions "j'aime": 10,516
Quoting: kafle22
terrible deal for oilers. They give up a possible number 1 and a potential top 6 player for a player who people think at best is gonna be a 3c


GTFO. He’s a 3C right now. Who are these people that say that he won’t improve at all? Because they’re idiots.
SlafCaufZuki et Remus a aimé ceci.
20 juill. 2020 à 11 h 1
#6
Former Hockey Fan
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2017
Messages: 13,144
Mentions "j'aime": 10,516
Delete this.
SlafCaufZuki a aimé ceci.
20 juill. 2020 à 11 h 45
#7
Fanboys make bad Gms
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: déc. 2018
Messages: 4,055
Mentions "j'aime": 2,084
Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Delete this.


Delete your stuff. He might improve but this deal is bad for EDM right now and no one wants your maybe bust.
21 juill. 2020 à 6 h 17
#8
Nick
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mars 2017
Messages: 2,607
Mentions "j'aime": 828
Quoting: reelkena
Delete your stuff. He might improve but this deal is bad for EDM right now and no one wants your maybe bust.


maybe bust? kotkaniemi has way too much hockey iq at his age to completely bust. at worse he’s a 2C. heck, i can see bouchard or broberg busting before i can see kotkaniemi busting. sure he didn’t have the best season and he isn’t the best skater, but the guy just turned 20 and just had a soft more slump. last year he was producing as a 3C as the youngest player in the league. he will be fine. not every player scores 70 points in their rookie season ffs.
Remus, Kotkaniemi15 et Campabee a aimé ceci.
21 juill. 2020 à 12 h 46
#9
Fanboys make bad Gms
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: déc. 2018
Messages: 4,055
Mentions "j'aime": 2,084
Quoting: DriveFor25
maybe bust? kotkaniemi has way too much hockey iq at his age to completely bust. at worse he’s a 2C. heck, i can see bouchard or broberg busting before i can see kotkaniemi busting. sure he didn’t have the best season and he isn’t the best skater, but the guy just turned 20 and just had a soft more slump. last year he was producing as a 3C as the youngest player in the league. he will be fine. not every player scores 70 points in their rookie season ffs.


Sure. You are very possibly right. But there's two things. One, you're a habs fan, your gonna be biased towards him and you see him more than other teams do. Two, his stock is obviously very low right now. So either you keep him and turn him into this guy that you think he is, or you move him at his lowest value. You can't trade a guy while he's struggling and say he will not be a bust and get his value back up. Other teams don't have to have your enthusiasm.
21 juill. 2020 à 19 h 18
#10
Nick
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mars 2017
Messages: 2,607
Mentions "j'aime": 828
Quoting: reelkena
Sure. You are very possibly right. But there's two things. One, you're a habs fan, your gonna be biased towards him and you see him more than other teams do. Two, his stock is obviously very low right now. So either you keep him and turn him into this guy that you think he is, or you move him at his lowest value. You can't trade a guy while he's struggling and say he will not be a bust and get his value back up. Other teams don't have to have your enthusiasm.


I wouldn’t trade him at his lowest value either it wouldn’t be smart at all anyway. He’s not getting dealt anyway and I don’t think Edmonton wands to deal Bouchard either.
reelkena a aimé ceci.
23 juill. 2020 à 14 h 6
#11
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2018
Messages: 15,566
Mentions "j'aime": 6,466
Quoting: DriveFor25
I wouldn’t trade him at his lowest value either it wouldn’t be smart at all anyway. He’s not getting dealt anyway and I don’t think Edmonton wands to deal Bouchard either.


I am just going to add to this that Montreal does not need a top pairing RHD we need a top pairing LHD
SlafCaufZuki a aimé ceci.
 
Répondre
To create a post please Login or S'inscrire
Question:
Options:
Ajouter une option
Soumettre le sondage