Not paying our best prospect to be rid of Jones. Sorry

you think Merkley and a 2nd is only a minor overpayment for Andersen?! no way. Scouts were saying in the draft that Merkley's skill level was in the top 10 (some even said top 5) of his draft class but since he had attitude problems and wasn't great defensively that caused him to drop. Now that there's reports that those issues are fixed his value is very high.

lol, every single prospect might be good some day. that's like saying you wouldn't trade Andersen for the 2020 1st overall pick because Lafreniere "might" be a top 6 forward one day.

yes, that is what a good starting goalie costs. Merkley is about the equivilant of a late 1st in value right now. Andersen cost more than that when he was a potential starter, Jones himself cost a mid range 1st when he was a potential starter.

and as if you are comparing Merkley to Lafrenier. that's insane.

yes, that is what a good starting goalie costs. Merkley is about the equivilant of a late 1st in value right now. Andersen cost more than that when he was a potential starter, Jones himself cost a mid range 1st when he was a potential starter.

and as if you are comparing Merkley to Lafrenier. that's insane.

lol, they really think someone is gonna trade for Burns or that Seattle will take him without him without them including someone like Merkley

Merkley has more value than a late 1st. If we traded him for a pick in the 2020 I would say we could get a pick between maybe 9 and 13. Goalies don't have as much value as forwards and defenseman. If we need a goalie we'll sign someone like Khudobin in free agency and not give anything up or maybe trade for someone like Georgiev who's cheaper and younger.

never compared Merkley to Laf. You said you wouldn't trade for Merkley because he "might" be good some day, but that's how all prospects are, even Lafreniere.

Merkley plays no defense too.

Leafs dont do good with attitude problem players, they really don't need an OFD and their defense is already bad enough that Andersen has to bail them out nearly every game. This is really bad

his defensive game has definitely improved, here's a short blurb about it on DobberProspects

He has always been an undeniably gifted player with the puck, but his defensive play and character issues have been a huge red flag for many scouts. Merkley has quickly turned things around this season setting career-best offensive and defensive numbers.

He also had a plus 20

Nah, I think he would fetch a 15-20 pick.

Merkley has more value than a late 1st. If we traded him for a pick in the 2020 I would say we could get a pick between maybe 9 and 13. Goalies don't have as much value as forwards and defenseman. If we need a goalie we'll sign someone like Khudobin in free agency and not give anything up or maybe trade for someone like Georgiev who's cheaper and younger.

never compared Merkley to Laf. You said you wouldn't trade for Merkley because he "might" be good some day, but that's how all prospects are, even Lafreniere.

no, i said Merkley might be a top 4 defender one day because that's what he might be. You compared that to Laf 'might' be a top 6 player because you wanted to be wild and extreme and that's just hilarious because 1st over all picks are actually all but sure things. Late 1st round defenders are anything but.

Sorry bud, but as a UFA, Anderson is worth about a 30-40 pick. Merkley has higher value.

Yakupov?

ok, do you want a list of 21st over all picks that busted out? cause it's gonna take me a while to go through em all

draft status is just a number. Want to give us Robertson? Using your logic his value is low given he was drafted at #53. Does that make any sense? No of course not, it matters what they do after getting drafted.

draft status is just a number. Want to give us Robertson? Using your logic his value is low given he was drafted at #53. Does that make any sense? No of course not, it matters what they do after getting drafted.

Caught him there lol. Most of them think Robertson is the second coming of jesus christ

riiiiiiiight. "caught me"
i mean, if you want to compare Merkley to any Leaf prospect it would be Liljegren. And you should see what people round here value him at.

Yeah, you guys value him at a boatload. Ive seen the AGMS

What attitude problems have they previously not dealt with before? I'm genuinely asking

It's more along the lines of the media, Toronto media eats their players alive. Even the slightest issue is always blown way out of proportion and causes stress. San Jose has a good rep for straightening players out (ie. Evander Kane)

Then San Jose will keep Jones.

Then you will keep Jones, and finish out of the playoffs again.