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what is Roys value

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Équipe: 2020-21 Kings de Los Angeles
Date de création initiale: 1 juin 2020
Publié: 1 juin 2020
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Using picks and prospects, what would he cost?
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1681 500 000 $55 226 364 $0 $2 550 000 $26 273 636 $
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5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
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2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
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875 000 $875 000 $
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1 juin 2020 à 16 h 0
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Also throw in Lizottes value to as (Roy + Lizotte) would most likely be Dubas targets as Kempe would be expensive to get.
1 juin 2020 à 16 h 4
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Honestly, I don’t really know. I’d say a top 9 player and like a 3rd or 4th. But the thing is, trading Roy for anything would be counter productive for the kings to trade Roy as they really don’t have anyone else to play the right side. Macdermid is a fringe top 6 guy who gets played for matchup reasons.
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1 juin 2020 à 16 h 14
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Honestly, I don’t really know. I’d say a top 9 player and like a 3rd or 4th. But the thing is, trading Roy for anything would be counter productive for the kings to trade Roy as they really don’t have anyone else to play the right side. Macdermid is a fringe top 6 guy who gets played for matchup reasons.


So your saying he is not being traded most likely then unless someone vastly overpays?
1 juin 2020 à 16 h 18
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I think he's worth a late 3rd round pick.
1 juin 2020 à 16 h 19
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I think he's worth a late 3rd round pick.


But why should Kings trade him?
They need him too.
1 juin 2020 à 16 h 21
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Honestly, I don’t really know. I’d say a top 9 player and like a 3rd or 4th. But the thing is, trading Roy for anything would be counter productive for the kings to trade Roy as they really don’t have anyone else to play the right side. Macdermid is a fringe top 6 guy who gets played for matchup reasons.


Whose better, Walker or Roy?
1 juin 2020 à 16 h 23
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So your saying he is not being traded most likely then unless someone vastly overpays?


Basically yeah. It’ll hurt the Kings to trade him away now. I’m not saying he’s the next Pietrangelo or anything, but realistically let’s say the kings were better and had Someone to replace him who would be better than him he’d probably go for like a 3rd and 6th maybe. I really have no idea. To be fair to Roy though, he was arguably the kings best Dman along with walker last year. Not saying a whole lot, but he was pretty good.
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1 juin 2020 à 16 h 26
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Whose better, Walker or Roy?

I’d say walker but not by a lot. Walker definitely was the more offensive guy. Just got pucks on net and created chances. Decent defender too. I really like them both. I caught myself watching those two more often then not than any of the other kings players. Lizotte too, feisty little guy who just agitates, kinda like a Gallagher type player.
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1 juin 2020 à 16 h 38
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The Kings aren't really in a position to trade away any of their defensemen. Kale Clague could be on the table since Hults is now an option for the Kings, but there's not as much of a market for LHD.

Roy was perhaps the best defenseman for LA this year, as acknowledged by the Kings coaching staff. Walker is a different kind of defenseman than Roy, but his impressive skating ability and quick decision making are something that the Kings are sorely missing. If Roy is a more stable stay-at-home guy, Walker is a quality mobile puck mover, something that the Kings need with both Muzzin and Martinez departing over the last 18 months. I think both are exceptional 3RD options, but perhaps average 2RD options. On a contender, if either is a 2RD, your team might have defensive depth issues.

I'm not saying that the Kings wouldn't move either one, but it would need to be for something that makes the team better in the short-to-medium term, as they don't really have a replacement for either. They're not going to do a swap for Johnsson and Dermott or a draft pick, as that doesn't do anything to make the team better. I could see them doing a swap of Roy for Kapanen, which I acknowledge would likely be a bit of an overpayment in terms of value, but it would be made up for in the form of $2.5M in cap savings on Toronto's side. I don't think the Kings would add any picks or other pieces to offset.

So yes, Toronto could likely trade for either one of those guys, but they're not going to like what it costs.
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1 juin 2020 à 17 h 1
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Roy is an NHL-quality RD, cusp 2nd pairing/3rd pairing, kinda like a younger version of Josh Manson. The only thing that the Kings would trade him for is a top-6 forward, and who's going to do that?

Even if the Kings were to draft Jamie Drysdale, they'd still probably hang on to Roy in order to give Drysdale time to develop.
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1 juin 2020 à 17 h 31
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A lot more than people on here usually say
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1 juin 2020 à 18 h 4
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A lot more than people on here usually say


"late 3rd" lol
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