Cirelli OS My take

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Créé par: wabit

Équipe: 2020-21 Wild du Minnesota

Date de création initiale: 27 mai 2020

Publié: 27 mai 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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I don't think Guerin is the GM to make and OS offer to begin with. Fenton would have imo. I also don't see much reason, other than money, to leave TB.

But if an OS was made I think you go with less term, not more, and it'll be more likely to be signed by the player. Basically an expensive bridge deal however long the flatcap is projected to last.

The shorter term will give the player a chance at a raise sooner and more control over his future. The player needs to sign the OS for it to work, so make it as favorable to him as possible. If he wants the term to make his a UFA instead when the contract ends, give it to him.

Yes, this team is over the 23 man roster limit. It's basically to cover any underpays of the RFAs. The bottom of the roster will sort itself out via trade, waivers, or in camp.

OS are fun to make on here, but highly unlikely to happen in reality. I think a trade is much more likely to happen, but not between these two clubs.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

LISTE DE RÉSERVE		ANS	CAP HIT
Kaprizov, Kirill		2	925 000 $

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Kähkönen, Kaapo	1	850 000 $
Robson, Mat	1	850 000 $
Menell, Brennan	1	850 000 $
Belpedio, Louis	1	850 000 $
Greenway, Jordan	2	2 000 000 $
Kunin, Luke	2	3 000 000 $
Sturm, Nico	2	850 000 $
Cirelli, Anthony	2	6 300 000 $

Offres hostiles

Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans

JOUEUR	AAV	COMPENSATION
Cirelli, Anthony	6 300 000 $	Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 Choix de 3e ronde en 2021

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2020
2021
2022

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
25	81 500 000 $	75 132 758 $	0 $	0 $	6 367 242 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Parise, Zach 7 538 462 $7 538 462 $ AG NMC UFA - 5	Staal, Eric 1 625 000 $1 625 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 1	Fiala, Kevin 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Kaprizov, Kirill 925 000 $925 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Cirelli, Anthony 6 300 000 $6 300 000 $ C, AG UFA - 3	Zuccarello, Mats 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AD, AG NMC UFA - 4
Greenway, Jordan 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Eriksson Ek, Joel 1 487 500 $1 487 500 $ C UFA - 1	Kunin, Luke 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ AD, C RFA - 2
Foligno, Marcus 2 875 000 $2 875 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1	Sturm, Nico 850 000 $850 000 $ C UFA - 2	Hartman, Ryan 1 900 000 $1 900 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1
	Rask, Victor 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ C UFA - 2	Donato, Ryan 1 900 000 $1 900 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Suter, Ryan 7 538 462 $7 538 462 $ DG NMC UFA - 5	Dumba, Matt 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ DD UFA - 3	Kähkönen, Kaapo 850 000 $850 000 $ G UFA - 2
Brodin, Jonas 4 166 667 $4 166 667 $ DG NMC UFA - 1	Spurgeon, Jared 7 575 000 $7 575 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 7	Dubnyk, Devan 2 166 667 $2 166 667 $ G M-NTC UFA - 1
Menell, Brennan 850 000 $850 000 $ D UFA	Belpedio, Louis 850 000 $850 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Stalock, Alex 785 000 $785 000 $ G UFA - 2
Hunt, Brad 700 000 $700 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Pateryn, Greg 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ DD UFA - 1

27 mai 2020 à 17 h 42

OldNYIfan

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Certainly an entirely valid point of view. Whichever one of us is right, I hope the Wild at least make the effort!

You forgot Soucy, too!

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27 mai 2020 à 17 h 54

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

Certainly an entirely valid point of view. Whichever one of us is right, I hope the Wild at least make the effort!

You forgot Soucy, too!

Soucy is a group 6 UFA. I'd like to have him back, but he can easily decide to go somewhere else for more money, playing time, etc.

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27 mai 2020 à 18 h 21

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That's a fair take. I guess it depends on the player. Some guys want to bet on themselves (like Fiala) and others want big paydays (not a great example, but Dumba sort of went that route).

I agree, though, they're fun in theory but rarely work. I do think that Tampa is in a really unique situation with $5M in cap and 15 players signed and a few high-end RFA's to extend, and that could make this more realistic, but Guerin probably isn't the guy to make it happen.

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27 mai 2020 à 18 h 25

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Quoting: TanSor

Coyle and Nino would be better examples of safe vs betting on themselves.

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27 mai 2020 à 18 h 27

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Quoting: wabit

Coyle and Nino would be better examples of safe vs betting on themselves.

Exactly, I knew there were better examples but couldn't think of them off the top of my head.

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27 mai 2020 à 19 h 17

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By the way, this team is well set up not only for the coming season but in the future; aside from other considerations, the expansion draft roster of Parise, Greenway, Cirelli, Eriksson Ek, Fiala, Zuccarello, Kunin (Kaprizov is exempt), Suter, Dumba and Spurgeon plus whichever young goalie wins out is bullet-proof and a very nice core to build on with Matthew Boldy and this year's 14th overall pick.

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27 mai 2020 à 19 h 46

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

They do have a much better base for a team than many realize. They need another future top-6 center (JEE really came into his own this year) and a future goalie (which they might have in their prospect pool).

Fenton took a lot of heat, but he set the team up very well in his short time here. Moving on the the 2010 draft class was what the team really needed to do. The Zucc signing was a bad move and he gambled and lost on the Rask/Nino trade.

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27 mai 2020 à 20 h 4

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Can't argue with your take on the OS rarely working, but worth a try. Also you are right Fenton would have likely been a more successful offer sheet GM.

Quoting: OldNYIfan

From my perspective wabit is always well thought out in his team analysis, more pessimistic than most Wild fans, but thinks through the roster very well.

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27 mai 2020 à 20 h 5

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I think your logic is sound, but I think it would take more for Cirelli to sign it with the Wild. Not to pick on Minnesota, but he could take a deal with TBL for less, net about the same, not have to change a thing, and honestly if you are a young millionaire athlete where would you rather live.

27 mai 2020 à 20 h 33

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Montana actually. With a big plot of land I can sit on my porch and enjoy looking at.

TB would have to offer like $5m to match the $6.3m for the net return. Everyone is different for what they want, or where they want to live. I don't know the guy personally so I couldn't say anything about what he wants from life. Maybe the guy has a thing for hot dishes, fishing and playing pond hockey? Then again he could also have a chicken in Ybor that he can't bear to leave?

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