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Équipe: 2020-21 Wild du Minnesota
Date de création initiale: 19 mai 2020
Publié: 19 mai 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Assuming no CBOs and cap remains at 81.5 million for the next 3 seasons.

2020 and 2021 is split evenly among Stalock and KK, year after start to transition to KK as starter.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
2925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
56 300 000 $
2925 000 $
32 550 000 $
1900 000 $
1925 000 $
2900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
33 000 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Cirelli, Anthony6 300 000 $
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021
Choix de 3e ronde en 2021
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2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $74 332 757 $0 $0 $7 167 243 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
6 300 000 $6 300 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
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925 000 $925 000 $
AG
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7 538 462 $7 538 462 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 5
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1 625 000 $1 625 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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2 550 000 $2 550 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 2
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1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
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1 487 500 $1 487 500 $
C
UFA - 1
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 4
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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2 875 000 $2 875 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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7 538 462 $7 538 462 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
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7 575 000 $7 575 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
785 000 $785 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
4 166 667 $4 166 667 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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700 000 $700 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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3 366 666 $3 366 666 $
AG
UFA - 1
900 000 $900 000 $
AG
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19 mai 2020 à 14 h 40
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@tansor

Was feeling creative, thoughts?
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I'd love to see Guerin offersheet one of Barzal or Cirelli, but I do feel like a Cirelli offersheet is going to have to be higher than that to not be matched. The Vancouver trade isn't really worth it. Hartman still has positive value as a bottom-6 right handed shot and the wild have the cap to let Dubnyk's contract run out. I don't really see Goldobin or McDonagh as that positive of additions, especially with how crowded we are at LW.
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@tansor

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Yeah I like it a lot. My preference will always be Barzal over Cirelli but I think any offer sheet for Barzal under the four 1sts threshold gets matched by the Islanders and giving up four future firsts is too much for Barzal (the 2022 draft class is looking incredible). Cirelli is a lot more realistic since the Bolts will have to trade one of Gourde, Johnson, or Killorn to keep him and I think that's easier said than done (especially with a flat cap) despite what Bolts fans might say. He's not a perfect fit, but he's definitely a 1C and at this point beggars can't be choosers.

One minor tweak: I'd put Brodin on the second pairing. He really deserves to be on the top pairing with Spurge but Suter will never let that happen.
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19 mai 2020 à 15 h 45
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I'd love to see Guerin offersheet one of Barzal or Cirelli, but I do feel like a Cirelli offersheet is going to have to be higher than that to not be matched. The Vancouver trade isn't really worth it. Hartman still has positive value as a bottom-6 right handed shot and the wild have the cap to let Dubnyk's contract run out. I don't really see Goldobin or McDonagh as that positive of additions, especially with how crowded we are at LW.


Barzal is a long shot since Islanders likely match up to the four 1sts threshold. Barzal is really good, but is he worth four future 1sts? I just worry that one of those might be a lottery pick and end up as a top 3 pick, you never know. I don't think Tampa can match this right now without moving a player. They are so tight on cap space...
19 mai 2020 à 15 h 50
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Yeah I like it a lot. My preference will always be Barzal over Cirelli but I think any offer sheet for Barzal under the four 1sts threshold gets matched by the Islanders and giving up four future firsts is too much for Barzal (the 2022 draft class is looking incredible). Cirelli is a lot more realistic since the Bolts will have to trade one of Gourde, Johnson, or Killorn to keep him and I think that's easier said than done (especially with a flat cap) despite what Bolts fans might say. He's not a perfect fit, but he's definitely a 1C and at this point beggars can't be choosers.

One minor tweak: I'd put Brodin on the second pairing. He really deserves to be on the top pairing with Spurge but Suter will never let that happen.


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@tansor

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Quoting: FloppyBiscuit
I'd love to see Guerin offersheet one of Barzal or Cirelli, but I do feel like a Cirelli offersheet is going to have to be higher than that to not be matched. The Vancouver trade isn't really worth it. Hartman still has positive value as a bottom-6 right handed shot and the wild have the cap to let Dubnyk's contract run out. I don't really see Goldobin or McDonagh as that positive of additions, especially with how crowded we are at LW.


I like the ideas man. Props because this really was creative. I don't think they'll move Dubnyk at this point. Like Floppy said, he only has one year left so they'll most likely give Kakhonen one more year to groom at the AHL-Level before they move him into full NHL duties.

I like the Cirelli over Barzal for offer sheet. Not because I like him better as a player, but because I think there is a higher chance we get him than Barzal.

I'll give you an A for effort though man. This was creative. If you want to get more creative, you can try trading Brodin or Dumba because I doubt both will be on our roster come July 1st, 2021. Seattle expansion draft ruining a good D corps.
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19 mai 2020 à 15 h 56
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I like the ideas man. Props because this really was creative. I don't think they'll move Dubnyk at this point. Like Floppy said, he only has one year left so they'll most likely give Kakhonen one more year to groom at the AHL-Level before they move him into full NHL duties.

I like the Cirelli over Barzal for offer sheet. Not because I like him better as a player, but because I think there is a higher chance we get him than Barzal.

I'll give you an A for effort though man. This was creative. If you want to get more creative, you can try trading Brodin or Dumba because I doubt both will be on our roster come July 1st, 2021. Seattle expansion draft ruining a good D corps.


We don't have to expose Brodin to Seattle unless we sign him to an extension before next offseason. The expansion draft is after the free agency period, so technically if he's not signed by the expansion draft we don't have to protect him and we can just sign him afterwords.
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19 mai 2020 à 16 h 11
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We don't have to expose Brodin to Seattle unless we sign him to an extension before next offseason. The expansion draft is after the free agency period, so technically if he's not signed by the expansion draft we don't have to protect him and we can just sign him afterwords.


They say you learn something new everyday. Thanks @TanSor
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I'd love to see Guerin offersheet one of Barzal or Cirelli, but I do feel like a Cirelli offersheet is going to have to be higher than that to not be matched. The Vancouver trade isn't really worth it. Hartman still has positive value as a bottom-6 right handed shot and the wild have the cap to let Dubnyk's contract run out. I don't really see Goldobin or McDonagh as that positive of additions, especially with how crowded we are at LW.


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Yeah I like it a lot. My preference will always be Barzal over Cirelli but I think any offer sheet for Barzal under the four 1sts threshold gets matched by the Islanders and giving up four future firsts is too much for Barzal (the 2022 draft class is looking incredible). Cirelli is a lot more realistic since the Bolts will have to trade one of Gourde, Johnson, or Killorn to keep him and I think that's easier said than done (especially with a flat cap) despite what Bolts fans might say. He's not a perfect fit, but he's definitely a 1C and at this point beggars can't be choosers.

One minor tweak: I'd put Brodin on the second pairing. He really deserves to be on the top pairing with Spurge but Suter will never let that happen.


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I like the ideas man. Props because this really was creative. I don't think they'll move Dubnyk at this point. Like Floppy said, he only has one year left so they'll most likely give Kakhonen one more year to groom at the AHL-Level before they move him into full NHL duties.

I like the Cirelli over Barzal for offer sheet. Not because I like him better as a player, but because I think there is a higher chance we get him than Barzal.

I'll give you an A for effort though man. This was creative. If you want to get more creative, you can try trading Brodin or Dumba because I doubt both will be on our roster come July 1st, 2021. Seattle expansion draft ruining a good D corps.


Thanks guys.
I agree with floppy and tansor, Barzal > Cirelli.

In top of that, I'd love Barzal to leave the Islanders.
Dont see him going to the next level if he remains an Islander.

I really like Soucy and think Wild should move on from Brodin.
Suter and Spurgeon are married to each other now, hope Spurgeon is new captain.

I moved Dubnyk because I want The Wild to start changing to KK, and Markstrom I dont feel will resign in Vancouver.

What other pieces would you want instead of what I came up with? And who would you rather move instead?
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19 mai 2020 à 16 h 29
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Thanks guys.
I agree with floppy and tansor, Barzal > Cirelli.

In top of that, I'd love Barzal to leave the Islanders.
Dont see him going to the next level if he remains an Islander.

I really like Soucy and think Wild should move on from Brodin.
Suter and Spurgeon are married to each other now, hope Spurgeon is new captain.

I moved Dubnyk because I want The Wild to start changing to KK, and Markstrom I dont feel will resign in Vancouver.

What other pieces would you want instead of what I came up with? And who would you rather move instead?


Yeah if we can somehow get Barzal to MN, it's a perfect match IMO. I mean he's exactly what we need: speedy offensive center that's more of a playmaker and is a right shot. There isn't a more perfect center for us than Barzal outside of the obvious superstar centers in the league (your McDavids, MacKinnons, Matthews, Eichels, etc. of the world).

Soucy was great but I don't think we saw enough of him to really call him a sure-thing top 4 player. I wouldn't mind rolling with him over Brodin long term as long as we can get the appropriate return for Brodin in a trade.
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Yeah if we can somehow get Barzal to MN, it's a perfect match IMO. I mean he's exactly what we need: speedy offensive center that's more of a playmaker and is a right shot. There isn't a more perfect center for us than Barzal outside of the obvious superstar centers in the league (your McDavids, MacKinnons, Matthews, Eichels, etc. of the world).

Soucy was great but I don't think we saw enough of him to really call him a sure-thing top 4 player. I wouldn't mind rolling with him over Brodin long term as long as we can get the appropriate return for Brodin in a trade.


What are your projections for Lodnia?
Think he will be ready? Is he a top6???
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Also am I the only one who wishes that Wild didnt sign Zuccarello????
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What are your projections for Lodnia?
Think he will be ready? Is he a top6???


Eh I was high on him when we drafted him but ultimately I don't think he amounts to more than a 3rd liner.

Quoting: Trickster
Also am I the only one who wishes that Wild didnt sign Zuccarello????


No, he did not fit in at all. I was ok with the signing at the time but in hindsight it made zero sense. Kaprizov plays mainly RW and in a way the Zuccarello signing took away Kaprizov's spot on the RW in the top 6 (Fiala plays RW too). In my eyes that was the worst move Fenton made.
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Eh I was high on him when we drafted him but ultimately I don't think he amounts to more than a 3rd liner.



No, he did not fit in at all. I was ok with the signing at the time but in hindsight it made zero sense. Kaprizov plays mainly RW and in a way the Zuccarello signing took away Kaprizov's spot on the RW in the top 6 (Fiala plays RW too). In my eyes that was the worst move Fenton made.


Would you take a chance on Turris for Rask trade?
Other pieces included of course.
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19 mai 2020 à 16 h 45
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Would you take a chance on Turris for Rask trade?
Other pieces included of course.


Hmm it's an interesting idea. Maybe, I'd have to sit on that one
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One thing I have been struggling with is what happens with goalie spot on the Leafs either for next season and/or beyond.

Would love to hear some of your creative thoughts.
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19 mai 2020 à 16 h 52
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Thanks guys.
I agree with floppy and tansor, Barzal > Cirelli.

In top of that, I'd love Barzal to leave the Islanders.
Dont see him going to the next level if he remains an Islander.

I really like Soucy and think Wild should move on from Brodin.
Suter and Spurgeon are married to each other now, hope Spurgeon is new captain.

I moved Dubnyk because I want The Wild to start changing to KK, and Markstrom I dont feel will resign in Vancouver.

What other pieces would you want instead of what I came up with? And who would you rather move instead?


I would say re-do this ACGM and offer sheet Barzel instead and see how that looks.
Pretty creative idea tho!
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Also am I the only one who wishes that Wild didnt sign Zuccarello????


Oh trust me...you're not the only one. I understand what Fenton was doing when signing him but it was misguided and it's really limited our options for the foreseeable future. Our only hope is that he figures out his fit within our system in years 2-5
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Hmm it's an interesting idea. Maybe, I'd have to sit on that one


What about a Zuccarello for Turris swap?
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Oh trust me...you're not the only one. I understand what Fenton was doing when signing him but it was misguided and it's really limited our options for the foreseeable future. Our only hope is that he figures out his fit within our system in years 2-5


Thoughts on Rask or Zuccarello for Turris??
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I would say re-do this ACGM and offer sheet Barzel instead and see how that looks.
Pretty creative idea tho!


Islanders have cap, I think they would even let Pulock go as long as Barzal stayed.
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Islanders have cap, I think they would even let Pulock go as long as Barzal stayed.


Pulock? NYI are in love with the guy. I dunno.
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Thoughts on Rask or Zuccarello for Turris??


Zuccarello and Zuccarello only. Trade one bad contract through 23-24 for another. Zuccarello is WAY better than Rask but that would absolutely kill to have 2 AAVs of 6 Mil through 23-24. And btw, the only reason I want to see this trade is to eliminate another NMC from the Seattle expansion draft next year...which is what also complicates this more. Would Zuccarello want to go? If he does, the Wild can protect another young asset and expose Turris.

And who knows, maybe both teams end up being better fits for these players. Look at Galchenyuk. Was a terrible fit in Pittsburgh, but I personally liked him in Minnesota's system. Made some big plays for us down the stretch.
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What about a Zuccarello for Turris swap?


I think I'd make that trade, yeah
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Thanks guys.
I agree with floppy and tansor, Barzal > Cirelli.

In top of that, I'd love Barzal to leave the Islanders.
Dont see him going to the next level if he remains an Islander.

I really like Soucy and think Wild should move on from Brodin.
Suter and Spurgeon are married to each other now, hope Spurgeon is new captain.

I moved Dubnyk because I want The Wild to start changing to KK, and Markstrom I dont feel will resign in Vancouver.

What other pieces would you want instead of what I came up with? And who would you rather move instead?


Quoting: Trickster
Islanders have cap, I think they would even let Pulock go as long as Barzal stayed.


Why wouldn’t barzal go the next level with the islanders?

Pulock is a top 10 RHD in the league right now , there’s no chance they let him go.
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Why wouldn’t barzal go the next level with the islanders?

Pulock is a top 10 RHD in the league right now , there’s no chance they let him go.


Just dont see the system in place there to help him excel.

So are you saying if you had a choice between Barzal and Pulock, you would let Barzal go???
 
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