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Créé par: Boomer125
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 10 mai 2020
Publié: 11 mai 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Discuss what's needed by either side to make the NJ deal happen - IMO Oil are stealing Kerfoot - but argue your case.

Either way I really don't see a whole lot available via trade to upgrade the D and not a fan of signing an ok meh RHD at FA for filling a temporary hole
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
32 250 000 $
1874 125 $
1737 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1700 000 $
11 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Severson, Damon (966 666 $ retained)
  2. Zacha, Pavel
NJD
  1. Dermott, Travis
  2. Kapanen, Kasperi
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. Khaira, Jujhar (300 000 $ retained)
  2. Marody, Cooper
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (EDM)
EDM
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (VGK)
  3. Choix de 6e ronde en 2020 (COL)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
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2021
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Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de EDM
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Logo de TOR
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2022
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Logo de TOR
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $81 436 783 $0 $0 $63 217 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
900 000 $900 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
700 000 $700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
737 000 $737 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
894 167 $894 167 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
700 000 $700 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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11 mai 2020 à 12 h 45
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Not enough for Severson and Zacha IMO, EDM wins that trade for sure
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What is it with you and JJ. He is so trash
11 mai 2020 à 12 h 55
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What is it with you and JJ. He is so trash


Our PK is trash, JJ is a good PK guy we have No true C's on the PK he solves that , gives us a C on both PK units if we can get a hold of Zacha.
11 mai 2020 à 12 h 59
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When trying to make a fair severson trade you have to realize he's the best dman on new jersey, he's just entering his prime so he's young enough for them to still build around, and he's on a very team friendly deal.

It's gonna cost you a lot more than a middle 6 forward, a middle pair dman, and a late 2nd rounder. You would probably have to start with nylander and add from there.

And that's not even including zacha
11 mai 2020 à 13 h 0
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When trying to make a fair severson trade you have to realize he's the best dman on new jersey, he's just entering his prime so he's young enough for them to still build around, and he's on a very team friendly deal.

It's gonna cost you a lot more than a middle 6 forward, a middle pair dman, and a late 2nd rounder. You would probably have to start with nylander and add from there.

And that's not even including zacha


Nah devils fans were fine with something around this. They want Kapanen and a second
11 mai 2020 à 13 h 1
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Our PK is trash, JJ is a good PK guy we have No true C's on the PK he solves that , gives us a C on both PK units if we can get a hold of Zacha.


No he is not good on the pk. There are other players who are better and don't have a -19
11 mai 2020 à 13 h 4
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Nah devils fans were fine with something around this. They want Kapanen and a second


Oh the couple devils fans that are on ACGM are cool with it? That completely changes my opinion. neutral neutral
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Quoting: SociallyHawkward
When trying to make a fair severson trade you have to realize he's the best dman on new jersey, he's just entering his prime so he's young enough for them to still build around, and he's on a very team friendly deal.

It's gonna cost you a lot more than a middle 6 forward, a middle pair dman, and a late 2nd rounder. You would probably have to start with nylander and add from there.

And that's not even including zacha


I agree with you that NJ would probably want more, but not Nylander. Thats a stretch.
11 mai 2020 à 13 h 46
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Quoting: SociallyHawkward
When trying to make a fair severson trade you have to realize he's the best dman on new jersey, he's just entering his prime so he's young enough for them to still build around, and he's on a very team friendly deal.

It's gonna cost you a lot more than a middle 6 forward, a middle pair dman, and a late 2nd rounder. You would probably have to start with nylander and add from there.

And that's not even including zacha


That's neat - Severson in TO would be the third best D man behind Rielly and Muzzin - it really doesn't matter if he was their best Dman last season (it's a low bar in NJ for best Dman). Severson is a 2nd pairing player not a Top pair guy , Kapenen is 8-5 F not a top line F both are entering their primes and both are signed to appropriately suited deals as for adding Zacha I gave the devil's a very good 3rd pair quite possibly a 2nd pair Dman in Dermott who is also entering his prime and will cost on a bridge deal around 2 million plus a 2nd rnd pick if more is needed sure I'll throw in a Bracco lol - NJ has 2 players that warrant a Nylander ask and that's Hughes and Hirscher after that there is no conversation to be had regarding Nylander
11 mai 2020 à 14 h 37
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Quoting: SociallyHawkward
When trying to make a fair severson trade you have to realize he's the best dman on new jersey, he's just entering his prime so he's young enough for them to still build around, and he's on a very team friendly deal.

It's gonna cost you a lot more than a middle 6 forward, a middle pair dman, and a late 2nd rounder. You would probably have to start with nylander and add from there.

And that's not even including zacha


Quoting: keep_ups12
Nah devils fans were fine with something around this. They want Kapanen and a second


Quoting: SociallyHawkward
Oh the couple devils fans that are on ACGM are cool with it? That completely changes my opinion. neutral neutral


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I agree with you that NJ would probably want more, but not Nylander. Thats a stretch.


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That's neat - Severson in TO would be the third best D man behind Rielly and Muzzin - it really doesn't matter if he was their best Dman last season (it's a low bar in NJ for best Dman). Severson is a 2nd pairing player not a Top pair guy , Kapenen is 8-5 F not a top line F both are entering their primes and both are signed to appropriately suited deals as for adding Zacha I gave the devil's a very good 3rd pair quite possibly a 2nd pair Dman in Dermott who is also entering his prime and will cost on a bridge deal around 2 million plus a 2nd rnd pick if more is needed sure I'll throw in a Bracco lol - NJ has 2 players that warrant a Nylander ask and that's Hughes and Hirscher after that there is no conversation to be had regarding Nylander


He's the third best D man your fans keep asking about, so I doubt those two things jive! Sevs is not worth Nylander for sure. Our problem is he is probably our best D and a young one signed for a good amount and term on the right side. While taking those assets are not far off, it makes a bigger hole in our bad D on both sides. Zacha ends up being our Zajac replacement soon. He didn't reach his draft potential (understatement), but he is a great pker with good numbers at the dot. I would argue the only place we are set is at center for years.
Please stop with the Braccos (I know you LOL'd it) , it's insulting Bracco sucks.
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He's the third best D man your fans keep asking about, so I doubt those two things jive! Sevs is not worth Nylander for sure. Our problem is he is probably our best D and a young one signed for a good amount and term on the right side. While taking those assets are not far off, it makes a bigger hole in our bad D on both sides. Zacha ends up being our Zajac replacement soon. He didn't reach his draft potential (understatement), but he is a great pker with good numbers at the dot. I would argue the only place we are set is at center for years.
Please stop with the Braccos (I know you LOL'd it) , it's insulting Bracco sucks.


Bracco was a joke lol - I'd have have no problem handing a Liljegren or SDA over to sweeten the pot
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11 mai 2020 à 18 h 19
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Bracco was a joke lol - I'd have have no problem handing a Liljegren or SDA over to sweeten the pot


My kid played with him in a combine of sorts. And although it was a couple yrs back, he was lazy, weak and not engaged. Almost entitled. He's fast and has a parent move or two, a period after aying him you know him. Thats not to say he has improved, of course he has and will probably be a great AHLer or bottom line guy on some team, hopefully not the one I follow
 
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