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Is Pesce Available

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Équipe: 2020-21 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 29 avr. 2020
Publié: 5 mai 2020
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5 mai 2020 à 1 h 26
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Probably not, and certainly not for that. That isn't even remotely close.
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5 mai 2020 à 1 h 27
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He's probably available for an overpay. Maybe if you make the pick a 1st.

Also DeMelo isn't taking that little. He gets at least 3M.
5 mai 2020 à 1 h 37
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He's probably available for an overpay. Maybe if you make the pick a 1st.

Also DeMelo isn't taking that little. He gets at least 3M.


if his injury hampers his play Carolina will probs trade him at the deadline.
5 mai 2020 à 1 h 54
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if his injury hampers his play Carolina will probs trade him at the deadline.


Highly disagree. There's lesser chance that happens than Ryan Kesler scoring another 30 goal season.

Carolina will not trade him when his value is low. At this contract and his skillset they should have a very high ask - A top line winger at minimum. A deadline trade due to injury would only result in more reluctant offers.


As much as I wish Vancouver could get him, his cost is far higher than we would be able to pay. I think it would cost Boeser to get him.
5 mai 2020 à 2 h 29
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Highly disagree. There's lesser chance that happens than Ryan Kesler scoring another 30 goal season.

Carolina will not trade him when his value is low. At this contract and his skillset they should have a very high ask - A top line winger at minimum. A deadline trade due to injury would only result in more reluctant offers.


As much as I wish Vancouver could get him, his cost is far higher than we would be able to pay. I think it would cost Boeser to get him.


Absolutely, Pesce for Boeser would be a similar value. Not sure if either team would say yes
5 mai 2020 à 5 h 27
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Not without Boeser coming back, no. He's probably a top 8-ish RD man in the NHL @AFOX10900 can verify.
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5 mai 2020 à 8 h 29
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Boeser is coming back in a deal
5 mai 2020 à 9 h 11
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Not without Boeser coming back, no. He's probably a top 8-ish RD man in the NHL @AFOX10900 can verify.


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5 mai 2020 à 9 h 14
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Close enough. Who do you have above him?
5 mai 2020 à 9 h 30
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Close enough. Who do you have above him?


Off the top of my head Weegar Dougie Ellis McAvoy Spurgeon Pietro Parayko Letang, and Fox if he wasn't a rookie
5 mai 2020 à 9 h 31
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Quoting: AFOX10900
Off the top of my head Weegar Dougie Ellis McAvoy Spurgeon Pietro Parayko Letang, and Fox if he wasn't a rookie


Weegar? That's a new one, the rest I understand. Why Mackenzie Weegar?
5 mai 2020 à 9 h 32
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Weegar? That's a new one, the rest I understand. Why Mackenzie Weegar?


His RAPM was basically Pesce's from last year, and Pesce kind of had a down year this yr
5 mai 2020 à 9 h 38
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Quoting: AFOX10900
His RAPM was basically Pesce's from last year, and Pesce kind of had a down year this yr


I see, you're using the 1 year format. This is where I disagree, using a 3 year format, Pesce is still a stud where Weegar is great but not this calibre.
5 mai 2020 à 9 h 40
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Quoting: Caniac2000
I see, you're using the 1 year format. This is where I disagree, using a 3 year format, Pesce is still a stud where Weegar is great but not this calibre.


No, Weegar last year>Pesce this year imo, Pesce last year slightly>Weegar this year, two years, weighed slightly more towards this year, I'll look at the third year, but it's not really fair imo bc really both of them, but Weegar was still developing
5 mai 2020 à 9 h 49
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No, Weegar last year>Pesce this year imo, Pesce last year slightly>Weegar this year, two years, weighed slightly more towards this year, I'll look at the third year, but it's not really fair imo bc really both of them, but Weegar was still developing


So was Pesce, neither of them are old. Pesce's only 24 (he might be 25 now, idk when his birthday is) They're gonna take more time to develop because D men always do.
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5 mai 2020 à 16 h 43
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Close enough. Who do you have above him?


Dumba,Parayko,Jones,McAvoy,Spurgeon,Klingberg,Karlsson,Doughty,Weber,Ellis,Hamilton,Letang,Petro, Makar, Carlson, Andersson, and Petry.
5 mai 2020 à 18 h 41
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Dumba,Parayko,Jones,McAvoy,Spurgeon,Klingberg,Karlsson,Doughty,Weber,Ellis,Hamilton,Letang,Petro, Makar, Carlson, Andersson, and Petry.


No, No, Fine, no, Fine, no, no, no, no, yes, yes, yes, no, yes, no and no. You named 6, thank you for proving my point!
6 mai 2020 à 0 h 17
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6 mai 2020 à 1 h 46
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Quoting: Caniac2000
No, No, Fine, no, Fine, no, no, no, no, yes, yes, yes, no, yes, no and no. You named 6, thank you for proving my point!


Is this a joke?

I will just leave this here.
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6 mai 2020 à 6 h 47
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7 mai 2020 à 7 h 19
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You are wrong and I will leave this here. I can get other sites too if you want.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETusiSCX0AA5GTh?format=png&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQmgISLXkAMsijC?format=png&name=medium

He had one good season. If he gets back to that then he is in the conversation with the dman i mentioned right now it's not a debate.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESYU45VXYAAkNG0?format=jpg&name=large


You are wrong my good friend. I left you the Evolving Hockey link, I encourage you to look around that website as well as www.hockeyviz.com and Charting Hockey, I also encourage you to look at Corsica but that is hit and miss. If you do not wish to comment further, please do not, we can agree to disagree. But replying only to tell me I'm wrong is a waste of both our time
 
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