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You have to protect absolutely Seabrook because of is NNC.

28 avr. 2020 à 19 h 56

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Quoting: Sebybbq

You have to protect absolutely Seabrook because of is NNC.

There's the possibility he waives it. There's zero chance Seattle picks him and he's nearly impossible to trade.

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28 avr. 2020 à 19 h 56

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I thought Slater was better than most people thought too. I still think with the number of Dmen on the Hawks...he'll sign for less. He wants (needs) playing time. If I were Stan I'd be looking to make a trade for another forward that...oh let's pretend TOR can't keep. Why should TOR lose Kap for nothing to Seattle when they can get something in return...right?

28 avr. 2020 à 19 h 57

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Quoting: ForsbergForVezina

There's the possibility he waives it. There's zero chance Seattle picks him and he's nearly impossible to trade.

If that's available...I'm sure he would, but I didn't think there was a choice for Vegas.

28 avr. 2020 à 19 h 58

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Quoting: ForsbergForVezina

There's the possibility he waives it. There's zero chance Seattle picks him and he's nearly impossible to trade.

I know Chicago is stuck with him. He won’t waive is clause at is age, he got a family and have nothing left to prove. Chicago will have to buy him out or wait a couple of year and buy him out ahah that the only realistic solution

28 avr. 2020 à 20 h 2

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Quoting: Sebybbq

I mean, if you believe what comes out of his mouth...that's clearly not the case. He was about a millisecond away from requesting a trade last year because he was given 1 healthy scratch.

"I don’t think I need rest. I think I feel great, I’m 34, you guys seem to want to write articles about my age and my speed. I feel like I still got a lot to offer in this league and still be a good player for somebody." ~Brent Seabrook 10/29/2019

28 avr. 2020 à 20 h 4

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I definitely protect Lankinen over Delia. I think his ceiling is much higher. Seattle's not going to take Koekkoek if tou expose him, I think a healthy De Haan is way to good to expose and loose for nothing

28 avr. 2020 à 20 h 6

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That's actually interesting, would/could Seabrook waive his NMC specifically to be exposed in the expansion draft but still have the clause apply to other teams and prevent him from being waived, knowing full well that Seattle would never pick him and allow for Chicago to protect a different defenseman, in the interest of retaining players better than him? That would require some humility and would be doing Chicago a big favor, but the risk to him (as far as leaving Chicago) is zero, so for him it's really an optics and pride question. Kind of a unique situation.

28 avr. 2020 à 20 h 9

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Quoting: exo2769

I mean, if you believe what comes out of his mouth...that's clearly not the case. He was about a millisecond away from requesting a trade last year because he was given 1 healthy scratch.

And if you believe that there one Gm in the league that would be interested in taking Seabrook contract without a major package coming with him them, i mean... i one case or another Chicago is doom with Seabrook unless they buy him out. This contract suck terribly, a 35 years old defenseman who can play in the top 4 no more and at this AVV. Yikes finding a partner without trading away half of your prospect and pick

28 avr. 2020 à 20 h 10

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Quoting: Sebybbq

Oh for sure, we’re stuck with him. Asking him to waive isn’t so we can move him, it’s so we can protect other players.

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28 avr. 2020 à 20 h 12

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Quoting: Sebybbq

Well I mean you can try to change your point...sure. Trade value is certainly different then him wanting to stay, BUT I'd also add...VAN was kicking the tires on taking him @ the draft last year for a SWAP of 1sts...not even the #3 outright, but swapping the #10 OA for the #3OA and Seabs. They ultimately passed, but Seabs contract to jump 7 spots in the draft? Seems like giving a 1st rounder outright should do the trick if it came to that.

https://www.secondcityhockey.com/2019/6/24/18715505/vancouver-canucks-chicago-blackhawks-failed-trade-brent-seabrook-2019-nhl-draft

***EDIT*** I'd bet a lot of money that he goes to LTIR though

28 avr. 2020 à 20 h 15

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Quoting: exo2769

I believe VAN was wanting to trade up for the #3 pick but when Bowman said the price was taking back Seabs they said no deal, or atleast that was what I had seen from everyone at the time

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28 avr. 2020 à 20 h 19

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Quoting: exo2769

Last year he still had some value left but after the season he got this year it will take a major deal for a team to take is contract. He had regress even more this year and team are aware of that if i am.

28 avr. 2020 à 20 h 24

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

It depends on who wins the backup job for next season. I don’t have a preference between the two but I imagine if they show some improvement and play competently, they’ll be protected.

Koekkoek is so much better then people think. He plays 3rd pair minutes, so perhaps he’s playing against weaker competition, but his xGF and possession numbers have been great since coming to Chicago. I’d like to see him get a slightly bigger role next season and see if he can handle it. If he can’t in 20-21, then maybe they opt to protect De Haan, but he’s been injured so much that I’m concerned about how much of an asset he can really be for them. Koekkoek is also younger, cheaper and has more term, with this contract. If he can handle top 4 minutes, I think I’d rather have Koekkoek

28 avr. 2020 à 21 h 14

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Koekkoek proved he's a top-four defenseman this season IMO. He's always been a statistically good defenseman, but he was the possession driver for the only good pair in CHI this year (Maatta - Koekkoek) with a much better sample size. I wanted to concur with one of your Koekkoek posts earlier this week, but you deleted it before I could say anything.

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28 avr. 2020 à 21 h 17

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Quoting: Roviet_Sussia

Haha yeah, I realized I made a mistake somewhere in it and just deleted the whole thing. I’ve been meaning to repost, but haven’t gotten to it yet.

Maybe I’m wrong about Koekkoek but I just want to see him succeed so badly. There’s a lot to like there and that 1st round pick label makes him all the more appealing. Yzerman of all people had enough confidence to take him 10th overall, there’s gotta be something more in there!

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28 avr. 2020 à 21 h 27

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Quoting: ForsbergForVezina

I feel like he's already succeeding, but he needs the contract to go with it. If I were CHI, I'd go for a cheap one-year deal to get through the expansion draft and then sign him to the cap hit of whomever got selected (someone like De Haan/Maatta).

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28 avr. 2020 à 23 h 33

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