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My Opinion On Taylor Hall

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24 avr. 2020 à 9 h 4
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‪I don’t see what makes Taylor Hall such a special player. Throughout his career, he’s been a below replacement level player at best. Look at his stats, he doesn’t impact the play at all. The only season he played decent was in 2017/18 when he got carried by Kyle Palmieri. He doesn’t have what it takes to drive his own line, let alone lead the entire team. Sure he plays physical, but so does Corey Perry, that doesn’t make him good. Honestly, I don’t understand what in the world he’s done to earn a deal in the 9-11 million dollar range. He sucks. ‬
24 avr. 2020 à 9 h 6
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‪I don’t see what makes Taylor Hall such a special player. Throughout his career, he’s been a below replacement level player at best. Look at his stats, he doesn’t impact the play at all. The only season he played decent was in 2017/18 when he got carried by Kyle Palmieri. He doesn’t have what it takes to drive his own line, let alone lead the entire team. Sure he plays physical, but so does Corey Perry, that doesn’t make him good. Honestly, I don’t understand what in the world he’s done to earn a deal in the 9-11 million dollar range. He sucks. ‬


good joke
24 avr. 2020 à 9 h 17
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‪I don’t see what makes Taylor Hall such a special player. Throughout his career, he’s been a below replacement level player at best. Look at his stats, he doesn’t impact the play at all. The only season he played decent was in 2017/18 when he got carried by Kyle Palmieri. He doesn’t have what it takes to drive his own line, let alone lead the entire team. Sure he plays physical, but so does Corey Perry, that doesn’t make him good. Honestly, I don’t understand what in the world he’s done to earn a deal in the 9-11 million dollar range. He sucks. ‬


1) how does one get carried by Kyle Palmeri? Hall was clearly the driver of that 2017/18 team and has been a consistent 60+ point scorer his whole career.
2) Prime Corey Perry was elite
3) His value realistically is probably in the 8-9 mil range, but he'll get more on the open market
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24 avr. 2020 à 9 h 24
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1) how does one get carried by Kyle Palmeri? Hall was clearly the driver of that 2017/18 team and has been a consistent 60+ point scorer his whole career.
2) Prime Corey Perry was elite
3) His value realistically is probably in the 8-9 mil range, but he'll get more on the open market


Guy is a troll
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24 avr. 2020 à 10 h 2
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‪I don’t see what makes Taylor Hall such a special player. Throughout his career, he’s been a below replacement level player at best. Look at his stats, he doesn’t impact the play at all. The only season he played decent was in 2017/18 when he got carried by Kyle Palmieri. He doesn’t have what it takes to drive his own line, let alone lead the entire team. Sure he plays physical, but so does Corey Perry, that doesn’t make him good. Honestly, I don’t understand what in the world he’s done to earn a deal in the 9-11 million dollar range. He sucks. ‬


He got carried by Palm tree, except Hall had more than double the amount of points of anyone else on the team? As for being a below replacement level player, his GAR is in the top 8 percentile, and his WAR is top 10. He’s a HELL of a player. His RAPM look like something you could find on certain XXX rated websites. He’s a special player, and he always has been. He’s consistently out 60+ points up on WAY below par teams. He is statistically one of the top 5 play driving forwards in the NHL. He plays a great defensive game as well as being physical. He could honestly get more than Panafon did because the dude is elite.
24 avr. 2020 à 10 h 39
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this guy is a pure troll,

but taylor hall is truly nothing special, not even top 10 winger in the league so he shouldnt be paid like one, his mvp carrying a terrible devils team has made him overrated, no team he has been on has ever been successful, not to say he is the cause of that because it isnt true, but besides the year with the devils where the team as a whole overachieved he really hasnt done much to be a difference maker on any team hes been on, also have been reports he is uncoachable, not to mention gets hurt quite a bit which isnt his fault , but its not a good thing
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24 avr. 2020 à 10 h 40
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‪I don’t see what makes Taylor Hall such a special player. Throughout his career, he’s been a below replacement level player at best. Look at his stats, he doesn’t impact the play at all. The only season he played decent was in 2017/18 when he got carried by Kyle Palmieri. He doesn’t have what it takes to drive his own line, let alone lead the entire team. Sure he plays physical, but so does Corey Perry, that doesn’t make him good. Honestly, I don’t understand what in the world he’s done to earn a deal in the 9-11 million dollar range. He sucks. ‬


Although I agree with some part of this, you're way too much focused on analytics.
24 avr. 2020 à 11 h 16
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good joke


Quoting: leafs101
1) how does one get carried by Kyle Palmeri? Hall was clearly the driver of that 2017/18 team and has been a consistent 60+ point scorer his whole career.
2) Prime Corey Perry was elite
3) His value realistically is probably in the 8-9 mil range, but he'll get more on the open market


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He got carried by Palm tree, except Hall had more than double the amount of points of anyone else on the team? As for being a below replacement level player, his GAR is in the top 8 percentile, and his WAR is top 10. He’s a HELL of a player. His RAPM look like something you could find on certain XXX rated websites. He’s a special player, and he always has been. He’s consistently out 60+ points up on WAY below par teams. He is statistically one of the top 5 play driving forwards in the NHL. He plays a great defensive game as well as being physical. He could honestly get more than Panafon did because the dude is elite.


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Although I agree with some part of this, you're way too much focused on analytics.


Go look at Hall’s stats. It shows that he isn’t able to generate his own shots & scoring chances. Palmieri does most of the work for him in the offensive zone, Hall mostly earns secondary assists by throwing the puck in a random area for his teammates & occasionally he scores on a wide open net. Don’t forget he is a black hole defensively. I would take Alex DeBrincat & Jake Guentzel over him.

Tell me what exactly Corey Perry did in his prime that made him elite? Dude couldn’t skate, he had no hands & was only capable of scoring tap ins waiting in front of the net. He heavily relied on Bobby Ryan to do the work and generate shots so he could be left unmarked. I would take Anders Lee over him every day of the week, he brings so much more to the table.
24 avr. 2020 à 11 h 19
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this guy is a pure troll,

but taylor hall is truly nothing special, not even top 10 winger in the league so he shouldnt be paid like one, his mvp carrying a terrible devils team has made him overrated, no team he has been on has ever been successful, not to say he is the cause of that because it isnt true, but besides the year with the devils where the team as a whole overachieved he really hasnt done much to be a difference maker on any team hes been on, also have been reports he is uncoachable, not to mention gets hurt quite a bit which isnt his fault , but its not a good thing


The reason why Hall sucks is not because of his proness to injury and attitude, it’s the fact that he sucks at hockey.
24 avr. 2020 à 11 h 20
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Guy is a troll


Just because you don’t like my takes doesn’t make me a troll.
24 avr. 2020 à 11 h 22
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Go look at Hall’s stats. It shows that he isn’t able to generate his own shots & scoring chances. Palmieri does most of the work for him in the offensive zone, Hall mostly earns secondary assists by throwing the puck in a random area for his teammates & occasionally he scores on a wide open net. Don’t forget he is a black hole defensively. I would take Alex DeBrincat & Jake Guentzel over him.

Tell me what exactly Corey Perry did in his prime that made him elite? Dude couldn’t skate, he had no hands & was only capable of scoring tap ins waiting in front of the net. He heavily relied on Bobby Ryan to do the work and generate shots so he could be left unmarked. I would take Anders Lee over him every day of the week, he brings so much more to the table.


not as funny the 2nd time
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24 avr. 2020 à 11 h 49
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The reason why Hall sucks is not because of his proness to injury and attitude, it’s the fact that he sucks at hockey.


Ah yes, the man with a 0.85 PPG rate throughout his career sucks at hockey. Why did we not think of this sooner? It's all so clear now. GTF outta here. Is Hall a generational talent? No, but he's a very good top 6 player who's great all around. To say he "sucks" at hockey shows you either 1) Don't watch Taylor Hall 2) Do not know what you're watching
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Ah yes, the man with a 0.85 PPG rate throughout his career sucks at hockey. Why did we not think of this sooner? It's all so clear now. GTF outta here. Is Hall a generational talent? No, but he's a very good top 6 player who's great all around. To say he "sucks" at hockey shows you either 1) Don't watch Taylor Hall 2) Do not know what you're watching


0.85 career PPG isn’t good enough for someone to make 11 million. Great all round? You must be looking at the wrong stats. He’s terrible defensively. His offensive game is no where near Kane either.
24 avr. 2020 à 11 h 58
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0.85 career PPG isn’t good enough for someone to make 11 million. Great all round? You must be looking at the wrong stats. He’s terrible defensively. His offensive game is no where near Kane either.


What stats are you looking at? His xGA is among the best in the NHL among forwards. Offensively, how many players in this league are as good as Kane? Maybe just him and Ovechkin? He's still probably a top 10 winger.
24 avr. 2020 à 12 h 0
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What stats are you looking at? His xGA is among the best in the NHL among forwards. Offensively, how many players in this league are as good as Kane? Maybe just him and Ovechkin? He's still probably a top 10 winger.


You are definitely looking at the wrong stats. Hall’s career xGA is in the negative, making him a below replacement level player defensively. Also, don’t compare that one trick pony Ovechkin to Kane. One guy can stick handle through the whole team, the other guy just stands there waiting for Oshie to do the work.
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You are definitely looking at the wrong stats. Hall’s career xGA is in the negative, making him a below replacement level player defensively. Also, don’t compare that one trick pony Ovechkin to Kane. One guy can stick handle through the whole team, the other guy just stands there waiting for Oshie to do the work.


Ohhhh, you're THAT kind of dumb, that makes more sense. You think Oshie does all the work, and that's why Ovechkin is the best goal scorer in league history, got it. Ovechkin is FAR better than Patty Kane, like it or not. That's not the debate though. His isolated xGA is positive, and when you take him out of Edmonton it's among the leagues best. Hall is FAR better than you give him credit for.
24 avr. 2020 à 12 h 31
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Ohhhh, you're THAT kind of dumb, that makes more sense. You think Oshie does all the work, and that's why Ovechkin is the best goal scorer in league history, got it. Ovechkin is FAR better than Patty Kane, like it or not. That's not the debate though. His isolated xGA is positive, and when you take him out of Edmonton it's among the leagues best. Hall is FAR better than you give him credit for.


Hall isn’t good. Also, if you look at the stats, Ovechkin couldn’t hold Kane’s jock strap. He isn’t even the greatest goal scorer (Brett Hull is) & the only reason why he gets regarded as such is because of media hype.
24 avr. 2020 à 12 h 37
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Hall isn’t good. Also, if you look at the stats, Ovechkin couldn’t hold Kane’s jock strap. He isn’t even the greatest goal scorer (Brett Hull is) & the only reason why he gets regarded as such is because of media hype.


LMAO wow you really don't know what you're on about do you? That's funny. Ovi is the greatest scorer ever, era adjusted or not. Kane isn't even close enough to smell Ovi's aftershave buddy, and that should outline how outstanding Ovechkin is. You're trying to make Ovi sound like Laine, except Ovechkin is the best pure offensive goal scorer ever
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LMAO wow you really don't know what you're on about do you? That's funny. Ovi is the greatest scorer ever, era adjusted or not. Kane isn't even close enough to smell Ovi's aftershave buddy, and that should outline how outstanding Ovechkin is. You're trying to make Ovi sound like Laine, except Ovechkin is the best pure offensive goal scorer ever


Kane is the greatest hockey player of all time. Sorry that the facts disagree with your feelings.
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Kane is the greatest hockey player of all time. Sorry that the facts disagree with your feelings.


Wonder how good Kane is defensively, just curious
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Kane is the greatest hockey player of all time. Sorry that the facts disagree with your feelings.


And Kane is actually one of the worst forwards defensively...
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And Kane is actually one of the worst forwards defensively...


No one cares about defense if you’re the best offensive player in the game. You get paid to score, not play defense.
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No one cares about defense if you’re the best offensive player in the game. You get paid to score, not play defense.


So with your logic, if a player can drive play and just score but he's a disaster defensively, it's all good?
 
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