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Créé par: AlliDOisBleedBlue
Équipe: 2020-21 Blues de St-Louis
Date de création initiale: 19 avr. 2020
Publié: 19 avr. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
43 500 000 $
2950 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
89 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
STL
  1. Mittelstadt, Casey [Droits de RFA]
2.
STL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
3.
STL
  1. Sutter, Brandon
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (VAN)
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2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $72 158 848 $306 349 $1 625 000 $9 341 152 $

Formation

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1 875 000 $1 875 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
C, AD
UFA - 1
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3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 8
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
758 333 $758 333 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
AG, AD, C
NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 375 000 $4 375 000 $
AD, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 3
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
1 475 000 $1 475 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 7
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
3 275 000 $3 275 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 200 000 $$1M)
DG
RFA - 2
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1 375 000 $1 375 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
900 000 $900 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2

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19 avr. 2020 à 5 h 7
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Buffalo declined. And I say this respectfully Tyler bozak is not good. Casey mittlestadt is a good young player who needs more time. It’s a bad trade overall. As a Sabres fan it’s not good for buffalo
19 avr. 2020 à 5 h 33
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I doubt Buffalo does that. A 2nd is too much to expect for Allen by at least a round, probably two. Sutter is played out, no thanks for me.



Quoting: Donjuan316
And I say this respectfully Tyler bozak is not good.



Ummm huh? He's one of the best 3Cs in the league, has been for years.
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19 avr. 2020 à 6 h 49
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I doubt Buffalo does that. A 2nd is too much to expect for Allen by at least a round, probably two. Sutter is played out, no thanks for me.

Ummm huh? He's one of the best 3Cs in the league, has been for years.


Then StL shouldn’t wanna move him, should they?
This would be a “sell low” for Buffalo,
which they just wouldn’t do
Bc frankly... it doesn’t make sense

Even if Bozak was one of the best 3Cs in the league,
that doesn’t get Buffalo towards their goal
As they need a 2C

Mittelstadt has that potential....
And even if he doesn’t reach it,
trading him for a position they don’t need (Bozak at 3C) isn’t worth giving up on that top6 potential as Mitts
19 avr. 2020 à 7 h 29
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Quoting: Jdfitz77

This would be a “sell low” for Buffalo,
which they just wouldn’t do
Bc frankly... it doesn’t make sense


Even if Buffalo did want to sell low on Mittelstadt, no way they deal with STL again after how the O'Reilly theft turned out. The PR would be a nightmare and Buffalo ownership has to be really aware of their image right now.
19 avr. 2020 à 10 h 36
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I think Bozak is a great fit for Buffalo but they don't need Hofer as they have UPL and can't see them trading Middlestadt already or at least not for that return, if you changed Hofer to something else perhaps they'd be interested.

There's no way you're getting a 2nd for Allen and especially from Detroit.

I get the idea of the Faulk trade, move his contract and all the term with it and take one year of Sutter as a depth center, not sure if Van would be interested though as they have some big contracts coming up soon in Pettersson and QHughes, there might be a deal like this out there for Faulk though.
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19 avr. 2020 à 10 h 43
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Allen is a good goalie on a very good team. You can not translate to the Wings, which are a very poor defensive team. Highly doubt you would get an 2nd with the glut of goalies on the market this year, Holtby, Markstrom, Lehner and then there are the teams that have Two or 3 goalies like the Rangers, Pens and Coyotes.
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19 avr. 2020 à 10 h 49
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Allen is a good goalie on a very good team. You can not translate to the Wings, which are a very poor defensive team. Highly doubt you would get an 2nd with the glut of goalies on the market this year, Holtby, Markstrom, Lehner and then there are the teams that have Two or 3 goalies like the Rangers, Pens and Coyotes.


Really hoping Detroit can get Lehner signed or Markström, maybe trade for Murray, Jarry or Georgiev instead, think that this should be the summer to address the goaltending for the Wings for the foreseeable future.
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19 avr. 2020 à 11 h 0
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My thinking with Allen is that Detroit will not be a good team next year and would be able to flip him at the deadline. Obviously Sutter is a risk you take but Faulk needs to be flipped if we want to keep Petro. From the Sabres posts ive been seeing it looked like Buffalo fans had given up on Middlestadt.
19 avr. 2020 à 11 h 53
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I like Bozak, but can't see the Sabres trading a "hope" in Mittestadt for one year of Bozak. Detroit isn't giving up THAT much for a cap dump, even if Allen plays OK. Lots of teams need to dump cap, so players these cap dump players have little TRADE value.
No team wants Faulk and his contract. Plus Faulk has a NTC. He's a Blue forever.
19 avr. 2020 à 12 h 13
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Quoting: Jdfitz77
Then StL shouldn’t wanna move him, should they?
This would be a “sell low” for Buffalo,
which they just wouldn’t do
Bc frankly... it doesn’t make sense

Even if Bozak was one of the best 3Cs in the league,
that doesn’t get Buffalo towards their goal
As they need a 2C

Mittelstadt has that potential....
And even if he doesn’t reach it,
trading him for a position they don’t need (Bozak at 3C) isn’t worth giving up on that top6 potential as Mitts



For starters, I already said that Buffalo probably doesn't make this trade. As for Bozak, we'd gladly keep him if we had the cap space to do so and retain Pietrangelo. Unfortunately, we do not have that luxury. If we can shed Allen and Steen, it's possible that we'll be able to keep him.
19 avr. 2020 à 13 h 47
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My thinking with Allen is that Detroit will not be a good team next year and would be able to flip him at the deadline. Obviously Sutter is a risk you take but Faulk needs to be flipped if we want to keep Petro. From the Sabres posts ive been seeing it looked like Buffalo fans had given up on Middlestadt.


Problem with that thinking is if Wings are bad and Allen does not look good then they took on cap gave up a 2nd and get nothing back in return. I really hate when on this site when people say take my problem give me something and you can flip the person for a pick. If that were the case just flip it yourself, oh, wait you can not so just take my problem and make it yours.

Sorry a 2nd is way to high. If you can get it good luck but Wings pass as the price is steep.
19 avr. 2020 à 20 h 56
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Quoting: Donjuan316
Buffalo declined. And I say this respectfully Tyler bozak is not good. Casey mittlestadt is a good young player who needs more time. It’s a bad trade overall. As a Sabres fan it’s not good for buffalo


I'm not saying it's a good trade or anything, but Tyler Bozak is definitely good
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19 avr. 2020 à 20 h 57
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Then StL shouldn’t wanna move him, should they?


Ah yes, because no good players have ever been traded in the history of the NHL
20 avr. 2020 à 10 h 3
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Ah yes, because no good players have ever been traded in the history of the NHL


Other trades in the past have nothing to do with this one
Poor argument
Try again
20 avr. 2020 à 10 h 10
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For starters, I already said that Buffalo probably doesn't make this trade. As for Bozak, we'd gladly keep him if we had the cap space to do so and retain Pietrangelo. Unfortunately, we do not have that luxury. If we can shed Allen and Steen, it's possible that we'll be able to keep him.


It’s not “probably”
Buffalo 100% doesn’t make this trade

And if you’re desperate for Cap space to keep Pietrangelo,
then don’t expect to get a good return for Bozak
Certainly nowhere near a prospect like Mittelstadt

This isn’t specifically directed at just you
So no offense
There’s just ZERO chance the Sabres make a trade like this

U guys already won a Cup thanks to us
No need to be greedy
20 avr. 2020 à 11 h 9
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Modifié 20 avr. 2020 à 11 h 37
Quoting: Jdfitz77
Other trades in the past have nothing to do with this one
Poor argument
Try again


Why is this guy being a prick about this?

Quoting: Jdfitz77
It’s not “probably”
Buffalo 100% doesn’t make this trade

And if you’re desperate for Cap space to keep Pietrangelo,
then don’t expect to get a good return for Bozak
Certainly nowhere near a prospect like Mittelstadt

This isn’t specifically directed at just you
So no offense
There’s just ZERO chance the Sabres make a trade like this

U guys already won a Cup thanks to us
No need to be greedy


Ah he's a butthurt Sabres fan that makes sense

What's not a good argument is that "if player x is good, shouldn't you want to keep him?". That's ridiculous. Sometimes it makes sense to move good players. One of those is the freaking Salary Cap. You're on a website called Capfriendly, I'd think you'd know that. Good players are moved on good teams to keep them salary compliant literally all the time.

The "good return" in a Bozak trade is the ability to keep Pietrangelo. I could care less what we get back from the other team. It can be a sixth. I hope it's more than that because he's worth more than that, but again, winning the trade is less important that keeping Pietrangelo.

That said, if we can rip off your GM again, we totally will! I don't know why you think there's a code that says we wouldn't do that. I'd expect Buffalo to do the same if our situations were reversed.

Both @mokumboi and I don't support this specific trade. We're with you here, so I really don't understand why you're stressing so hard that this doesn't work for Buffalo. We know this. We didn't post the trade. But that doesn't mean that we shouldn't want to trade Bozak because he's good, because if you think about that for two seconds that's a dumb argument, or that there isn't a very clear fit for him on Buffalo which is sorely lacking any impactful centers, which Bozak is. He's not an ideal 2C, but If you want to get into the playoffs and not waste another prime year of Eichel while giving yourself the most flexibility to make an impact move down the road, Bozak is a good get. And you can probably get him for cheap, which is good because you need a lot more than a 2C to make that team a contender.
22 avr. 2020 à 2 h 23
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That’s all great if u wanna try & change the convo

My posts are based on how this trade WILL NOT happen

U guys wanna ship off Bozak for a 3rd?
Great, Bc that’s the best you’re getting
Not a top10 prospect like Mittelstadt
That’s laughable

And Bozak doesn’t get the Sabres in the playoffs
 
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