Cap Decrease Each Team Gets 1 Free Buyout

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Créé par: Ledge_And_Dairy

Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto

Date de création initiale: 22 mars 2020

Publié: 22 mars 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

The cap may not drop this much, it may remain the same. The idea here is that the cap does drop and each team is given 1 free compliance buyout

Toronto doesn't really have anyone on their roster worth buying out right now. Instead they make a trade with another team (here the Islanders) that would like to make 2 buyouts and receive cap space and defensive depth in the process. In the last compliance buyout the NHL nixed a trade between Tampa and Toronto that would have resulted in the Bolts trading Lecavalier to the Leafs to be bought out then resign with the Bolts. In exchange the leafs would receive a couple draft picks. The CBA ruled this as cap circumvention thus not allowing the trade. If the league puts in a rule saying players cant resign with a team they have been under contract with (buyouts from years ago don't count) in the last year then this issue would never occur.

Goat is also likely resigned as well as the other RFA's but they are all going to be sub 1M contracts

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Mikheyev, Ilya		1	1 250 000 $
Malgin, Denis		1	750 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Clifford, Kyle		1	800 000 $

Transactions

TOR

NYI

Johnsson, Andreas

Détails additionnels:

Something around this, I think Mayfield carries a little more value then Johnsson due to cap hit but this is a win-win for both teams

TOR

Not actually to Anaheim. Free compliance buyout since Toronto wasn't likely to use theirs anyway. This way they convert their buyout ticket into a defensive defense and cap space

ANA

Boychuk, Johnny

TOR

Blueger, Teddy
Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (PIT)

PIT

Dermott, Travis [Droits de RFA]

Rachats de contrats

Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)

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FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	80 000 000 $	79 388 116 $	0 $	400 000 $	611 884 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Hyman, Zach 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston 11 640 250 $11 640 250 $ C UFA - 4	Marner, Mitchell 10 903 000 $10 903 000 $ AD UFA - 5
Mikheyev, Ilya 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Tavares, John 11 000 000 $11 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 5	Nylander, William 6 962 366 $6 962 366 $ AD UFA - 4
	Kerfoot, Alexander 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 3	Kapanen, Kasperi 3 200 000 $3 200 000 $ AD UFA - 2
Engvall, Pierre 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
Clifford, Kyle 800 000 $800 000 $ AG UFA - 2	Blueger, Teddy 750 000 $750 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Malgin, Denis 750 000 $750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Rielly, Morgan 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Mayfield, Scott 1 450 000 $1 450 000 $ DD UFA - 3	Andersen, Frederik 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 1
Muzzin, Jake 5 625 000 $5 625 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 4	Holl, Justin 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 3	Campbell, Jack 1 650 000 $1 650 000 $ G UFA - 2
Sandin, Rasmus 894 167 $894 167 $ DG UFA - 2	Liljegren, Timothy 863 333 $863 333 $ (400 000 $$400K) DD RFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Rosén, Calle 750 000 $750 000 $ DG UFA - 1
Marincin, Martin 700 000 $700 000 $ DG UFA - 1

22 mars 2020 à 17 h 50

mhockey91

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if this compliance buyout did happen, thats a creative trade. pens dont make that trade though

22 mars 2020 à 17 h 52

filipcesnak9

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So can the Islanders resign Boychuk or no

22 mars 2020 à 17 h 53

Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: mhockey91

if this compliance buyout did happen, thats a creative trade. pens dont make that trade though

Pens will likely buyout JJ and Jug should be back by next year, I think they would rather have Bleuger then McCann due to similar skill but contract advantage. Do you think Joseph makes the jump for them next year on the 3rd pair? I was looking for a PK'ing forward that plays a physical game.

22 mars 2020 à 17 h 54

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Quoting: filipcesnak9

So can the Islanders resign Boychuk or no

Negative. the CBA would nix the trade if that were the case. Hence why i added the rule to prevent cap circumvention

22 mars 2020 à 17 h 58

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Negative. the CBA would nix the trade if that were the case. Hence why i added the rule to prevent cap circumvention

I think the value of a buyout would be around a 2nd or so. So I don't think this is a fair trade. NYI would give up a lot more to get a buyout on Boychuk.

22 mars 2020 à 18 h 1

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I don't think that is going to be answer...compliance buyout. The league might make an arrangement with the NHLPA that "high end contracts" are going to be reduced by 5% so the low to mid range players can maintain or even get more salary. Doesn't really matter to the owners, they are going to spend to the cap. Given a vote by NHLPA, the mid to low end salaries make the majority of players and vote. These guys aren't sacrificing their salaries for few well paid stars on their team.
By you are correct it could be a compliance buyout, I'm just saying it's really not a long term answer....and this cap situation is going to hurt the NHL for years. The league doesn't have a big TV contract and folks aren't going to have the money to buy tickets to sports events...much discretionary income no longer exists.

22 mars 2020 à 18 h 3

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

McCann>Jugs>>>>Blueger (he's a 4C, fits with ZAR and Tanev, nothing more), plus Jugs is probably gone as well in this scenario to fit everyone else (and we can always use a 13th forward... We're never exactly the most healthy team...)

22 mars 2020 à 18 h 4

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I think the value of a buyout would be around a 2nd or so. So I don't think this is a fair trade. NYI would give up a lot more to get a buyout on Boychuk.

A lot? No, that depends on the market. If the cap goes down both teams desperately need to move cap. Toronto has the bank account to pay for Boychuk as they would have for Lecavalier 7 years ago. I could see a bit of an add from the Islander's side but I would not be surprised if multiple teams made offers. Red Wings, Kings, and Bruins all have the finances to make a similar offer.

22 mars 2020 à 18 h 6

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

pens will dump jugs before they move McCann. and its possible, depends how his offseason goes, but this whole corona virus thing is going to hurt a lot of players developments. they may not be able to train/practice as much as they could in a normal offseason

22 mars 2020 à 18 h 9

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Quoting: AFOX10900

Quoting: mhockey91

I can replace McCann with Blueger and a late pick, I think Toronto would be happy with that.

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22 mars 2020 à 18 h 13

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

I can replace McCann with Blueger and a late pick, I think Toronto would be happy with that.

yeah that could work. just depends on POJ's development like you said. if they feel he can make the jump, pens are fine on the left side. fair deal though

22 mars 2020 à 18 h 13

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I extremely doubt the NHL would do this. The cap won’t go up, but I cants see compliance buyouts becoming a thing again.

22 mars 2020 à 18 h 15

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Quoting: mhockey91

yeah that could work. just depends on POJ's development like you said. if they feel he can make the jump, pens are fine on the left side. fair deal though

Mind you, I'm not a leafs fan so IMO Blueger is a good add for them but other fans may think Dermott is worth more

22 mars 2020 à 18 h 16

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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15

I extremely doubt the NHL would do this. The cap won’t go up, but I cants see compliance buyouts becoming a thing again.

This is hypothetical, It may or may not happen but it's something worth exploring

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22 mars 2020 à 18 h 20

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People on this site love to say that leafs fans overvalue their players.

And then I see **** like this and realise that this fanbase deserves the JFjr years to play on loop for all eternity

22 mars 2020 à 18 h 24

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Quoting: Random2152

People on this site love to say that leafs fans overvalue their players.

And then I see **** like this and realise that this fanbase deserves the JFjr years to play on loop for all eternity

I'm confused, are you saying these trades are bad? It was originally Dermott for McCann 1 for 1 but pens fans wouldnt do it

22 mars 2020 à 18 h 27

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

I'm confused, are you saying these trades are bad? It was originally Dermott for McCann 1 for 1 but pens fans wouldnt do it

That would still be terrible, but I'm more talking about the johnsson trade.

You traded a 2nd line winger on a position of weakness for an enormous cap dump and a 3rd pair dman who greatly benefits from a scheme that the leafs play the opposite of.

Thank God dubas is smarter than this fanbase, because previous management was not

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22 mars 2020 à 18 h 36

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Quoting: Random2152

I traded a middle 6 winger for a defensively skilled, PK'ing, cheap #4 RD. He is not Pietrangelo good but Leafs dont have the cap space for him. Ideally Toronto would want a PMD but you will not find one for >2M anywhere. This trade benefits both teams in a crisis situation. Mayfield is much better than Ceci and fills a massive hole on their right side

22 mars 2020 à 18 h 53

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Mayfield is not what you think he is and it isn't close. I'd take Holl over him any day. And even so you still overpaid by moving Johnsson and taking Boychuck.

This is the Leafs. Every player we might conceivably want is a Norris contender until we trade or sign them, then they are bums according to this site. Do not buy into the hype.

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22 mars 2020 à 19 h 15

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I think you are confused. If I undo that trade the Leafs are over the used cap and dont even have 6 NHL level defense. Holl is also currently on the team and in the top 4 for that matter. He pairs quite well with Muzzin so I don't want to separate that. Sure you can put Dermott on the 1st pair but I really don't think he pairs well with Rielly. Regardless of Ceci being really underwhelming he eats up a lot of PK minutes, loosing him without a decent replacement is a big blow means Marincin has to be a constant member of the lineup. This trade solidifies the PK and defense while lowering cap and not hurting drastically hurting the offense. Johnsson is the beneficiary of his line mates and doesnt really have a good defensive game like Kapanen does. He is very expendable and should be traded for help on the blueline

22 mars 2020 à 19 h 17

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

The leafs are over the cap because you made poor roster decisions in light of your scenario where the cap stagnates. Every team will be in the same boat, you dont move good players for bad players if you want to win. Period.

22 mars 2020 à 19 h 20

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Quoting: Random2152

I suggest you make an ACGM with the same scenario since you seem to have it all figured out. 80M cap, 1 free buyout this summer

22 mars 2020 à 19 h 26

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

I suggest you make an ACGM with the same scenario since you seem to have it all figured out. 80M cap, 1 free buyout this summer

That scenario isn't going to happen, but it isn't difficult.

Hyman-mats-nylander
Mik-jt-marner
Engval-kerfy-kap
Guy-guy-malgin
Guy

Muzzin-dermott
Rielly-holl
Sandin-liljegren
Marmar

Freddie
Beller

Might need a little tweaking here and there and guys who got moved will bring back returns that may be used but the point is it isn't difficult to do without destroying the team

24 mars 2020 à 22 h 46

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

I suggest you make an ACGM with the same scenario since you seem to have it all figured out. 80M cap, 1 free buyout this summer

Since I was doing something similar, Figured I'd link it to you:
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1686505

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