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Can this happen

Créé par: csick
Date de création initiale: fév 13, 2020
Publié: 13 fév à 12 h 08
Équipe: 2019-20 Blue Jackets de Columbus
Transactions
CBJ
  1. Doughty, Drew
LAK
  1. Anderson, Josh
  2. Marchenko, Kirill [Liste de réserve]
  3. Savard, David
  4. Carlsson, Gabriel
  5. Milano, Sonny
  6. 2020 1e round pick (CBJ)
  7. 2021 3e round pick (CBJ)
Détails additionnels:
They can flip Savard somewhere eventually and Anderson is still young enough to fit this team
Rachats de contrats
  • Fedor Tyutin: 1 458 333 $
  • Scott Hartnell: 1 250 000 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
CBJ
CBJ
CBJ
CBJ
2021
CBJ
CBJ
CBJ
CBJ
CBJ
2022
CBJ
CBJ
CBJ
CBJ
CBJ
CBJ
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $72 145 748 $0 $4 200 000 $9 354 252 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
CBJ
Nyquist, Gustav
5 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
CBJ
Dubois, Pierre-Luc
894 166 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
CBJ
Atkinson, Cam
5 875 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 6
CBJ
Texier, Alexandre
897 500 $
AG
RFA - 2
CBJ
Wennberg, Alexander
4 900 000 $
C
UFA - 4
CBJ
Bjorkstrand, Oliver
2 500 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
CBJ
Foligno, Nick
5 500 000 $
AG, C, AD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
CBJ
Jenner, Boone
3 750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
CBJ
Bemström, Emil
925 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
CBJ
Robinson, Eric
874 125 $
AG
UFA - 1
CBJ
Nash, Riley
2 750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
CBJ
Stenlund, Kevin
864 166 $
AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
CBJ
Werenski, Zachary
5 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
LAK
Doughty, Drew
11 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 8
CBJ
Korpisalo, Joonas
1 150 000 $
G
UFA - 1
CBJ
Gavrikov, Vladislav
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
CBJ
Jones, Seth
5 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
CBJ
Kivlenieks, Matiss
925 000 $
G
RFA - 1
CBJ
Murray, Ryan
4 600 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
CBJ
Nutivaara, Markus
2 700 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
CBJ
Merzlikins, Elvis
874 125 $
G
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
CBJ
Harrington, Scott
1 633 333 $
DG
UFA - 3
CBJ
Dubinsky, Brandon
5 850 000 $
C, AG
NMC NTC
UFA - 2

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13 fév à 12 h 11
#1
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No, because Doughty has a NMC and has said numerous times he has no desire to leave LA. Maybe in 4 more years once he has to start giving a 7-team trade list, although I highly doubt Columbus will be on anyone's trade list.
13 fév à 12 h 20
#2
Go Wings Go
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No because first off those pieces don't get you Drew Doughty, And secondly i seriously doubt he'd waive his NMC for Columbus.
13 fév à 13 h 01
#3
DickFoligno
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
No, because Doughty has a NMC and has said numerous times he has no desire to leave LA. Maybe in 4 more years once he has to start giving a 7-team trade list, although I highly doubt Columbus will be on anyone's trade list.


I’m sure there are people who would want to go to Columbus....but Doughty isn’t one of them for sure....he’s a lifer
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13 fév à 14 h 01
#4
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No because Columbus can’t afford his contract for a 2nd pair defenseman. Also that’s way of an overpay for him. I’d rather try to get Kopitar for LA then Doughty, Kopitar would be a great 1a/1b center with PLD.
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13 fév à 15 h 14
#5
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Quoting: Ajp_18
No because Columbus can’t afford his contract for a 2nd pair defenseman. Also that’s way of an overpay for him. I’d rather try to get Kopitar for LA then Doughty, Kopitar would be a great 1a/1b center with PLD.


Doughty would be the first pairing defenseman in Columbus. Seth Jones would become the 2RD.
13 fév à 15 h 27
#6
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
Doughty would be the first pairing defenseman in Columbus. Seth Jones would become the 2RD.


Yes, that’s why most people take Jones above Doughty....

https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-network-top-players-top-20-defensemen/c-308545328
13 fév à 15 h 41
#7
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Quoting: Ajp_18
Yes, that’s why most people take Jones above Doughty....

https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-network-top-players-top-20-defensemen/c-308545328


Doughty has played for arguably the worst team in the league this season and last. His perception by people that don't watch him play is obviously going to suffer, because if he was any good, his team would be doing better, right? Put any defenseman in the league next to 5 AHL guys, and they aren't going to look very good. The last season he played for a decent team, Doughty ended up 2nd in Norris voting.

Doughty didn't forget how to play defense overnight. He's still an elite defenseman, and would immediately become the #1 defenseman on most teams in the league, with very limited exception (Tampa Bay is the most obvious).
13 fév à 16 h 08
#8
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
Doughty has played for arguably the worst team in the league this season and last. His perception by people that don't watch him play is obviously going to suffer, because if he was any good, his team would be doing better, right? Put any defenseman in the league next to 5 AHL guys, and they aren't going to look very good. The last season he played for a decent team, Doughty ended up 2nd in Norris voting.

Doughty didn't forget how to play defense overnight. He's still an elite defenseman, and would immediately become the #1 defenseman on most teams in the league, with very limited exception (Tampa Bay is the most obvious).


I think you’re underestimating Jones... he is Doughty 7 years ago before Doughnut won his 2 cups... I can think of 5 teams Doughty wouldn’t be the number one d on. Nashville, Tampa, Washington, Columbus and San Jose. Doughty is great, I just think you’re underestimating what Jones is and will be.
13 fév à 16 h 57
#9
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Quoting: Ajp_18
I think you’re underestimating Jones... he is Doughty 7 years ago before Doughnut won his 2 cups... I can think of 5 teams Doughty wouldn’t be the number one d on. Nashville, Tampa, Washington, Columbus and San Jose. Doughty is great, I just think you’re underestimating what Jones is and will be.


As soon as he gets one Norris nomination under his belt, he can be considered in the same breath as Doughty. Jones is currently 25 and in his 8th NHL season. By this time in Doughty's career, he had 3 Norris nominations and a win, not to mention 2 Stanley Cups.

Seth Jones is a quality defenseman. Drew Doughty he is not.
13 fév à 17 h 10
#10
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
As soon as he gets one Norris nomination under his belt, he can be considered in the same breath as Doughty. Jones is currently 25 and in his 8th NHL season. By this time in Doughty's career, he had 3 Norris nominations and a win, not to mention 2 Stanley Cups.

Seth Jones is a quality defenseman. Drew Doughty he is not.


Dude... Doughty is on the backside of his career. You’re blind if you don’t see it. Jones has been top 5 in Norris the last 2 season... I tried being nice, but you’re blind to the fact that Doughty isn’t what he used to be. Jones is only getting better and Doughty is going to be awful by the end of his contract. LA can keep Doughty, we don’t want him.
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13 fév à 17 h 57
#11
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Quoting: Ajp_18
Dude... Doughty is on the backside of his career. You’re blind if you don’t see it. Jones has been top 5 in Norris the last 2 season... I tried being nice, but you’re blind to the fact that Doughty isn’t what he used to be. Jones is only getting better and Doughty is going to be awful by the end of his contract. LA can keep Doughty, we don’t want him.


He was 9th last season, 4th the season before, and 18th the season before that. He has never earned himself a Norris nomination.

I'm not saying that Doughty isn't on the decline. He's 30 years old, he most obviously is. What I am saying is that Seth Jones still has to get better if he wants to get to where Doughty is now. In other words, if you put Jones on the Kings and Doughty on the Jackets, Doughty would be having a better season than Jones currently is, and Jones would be having a worse season than Doughty currently is. That could easily change next season if Jones continues to get better and Doughty continues to decline, but it hasn't happened yet.
 
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