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Forum: Armchair-GM18 mars à 0 h 29
Forum: Armchair-GM18 mars à 0 h 24
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Yotes269</b></div><div>That’ll be an aggressive decline from everyone. Arizona isn’t selling Keller, a major reason the Yotes didn’t draft Benson was he’s too similar to Keller, Buffalo isn’t going to go after him as they have a player who can develop into him</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BigDog91</b></div><div>Having similar elite players isn’t a problem. A guy who can put up ppg without linemates would be huge add. Sabres have one of the tallest and heaviest lineups in the league right now. So it wouldn’t be huge deal for them and league is changing making it easier for smaller players.
Sabres need goals and Keller would help even out the lines.</div></div>

Getting Quinn back healthy would help a ton in the goals department, and they need to now address third line center, Keller unfortunately doesn’t help there. And if our third line next season is Benson, Savoie and Peterka, we’re not making the playoffs with that. That line will get rolled defensively at the NHL level.

Buffalo has a lot of big players on their team, but a lot of those aren’t gonna be confused for Todd Bertuzzi any time soon. Power, Thompson, Tuch, Samuelsson, these guys are not overly physical players despite their size. Greenway is only is the only guy who comes close to playing that type of game, and even he leaves a lot to be desired for. After him,
Probably Cozens, Dahlin, Krebs and Clifton, but in this deal, Krebs and Clifton are getting dealt.

I think it’s an appropriate price for Keller, and Keller is a hell of a player, but I dont think Arizona does it, and I don’t think Buffalo parts with their major assets for that. They’d be more likely to do it for Crouse, but it’s because guys like Crouse are rare in the NHL
Forum: Armchair-GM11 mars à 1 h 50
Forum: Armchair-GM11 mars à 1 h 38
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JLance</b></div><div>that price will never be paid. the offense is nowhere near the value of that return.

I don't have a problem using Savoie or Kulich 1 for 1. If not, I also don't have a problem moving on.

Getting Will Carrier back in the org as a UFA offers far more value than losing a 1st, Quinn and Savoie.</div></div>

The offense he brings, which historically has been 20-25 goal range may not value the return, but honestly, guys like Crouse are rare. Very difficult to even name guys who are similar. Guys like these command immense value because they are so rare. Any top nine, forget top six, top nine F that plays with grit, physicality, and tenacity are always in high demand and valued by playoff teams. This is why the Flyers want a first for Scott Laughton, and why Barclay Goodrow got a first.

The main thing about Crouse that makes him worth a massive price that you can’t forget though is that he doesn’t have a no-trade clause, and the Sabres and any perennial bottom dweller can take a stab at him with no resistance form the player, plus he’s young and cost-controllled, which makes him coveted by contenders as well.

29 teams are looking for a player like Lawson Crouse, a big power winger who is hard to play against, great defensively, plays in any situation, and will drop the gloves.

You might be right, the price of Quinn, Savoie and a first or whatever it will take may never get paid. You’re spot on there, but if that’s the case, he likely won’t get moved. Guys aren’t lining up to play in Arizona any more than Buffalo.
Forum: Armchair-GM11 mars à 1 h 24
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Forum: Armchair-GM21 févr. à 5 h 19
Sujet: Laughton
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gretzkyghosts</b></div><div>At the age of 24 Laughton played in 188 NHL games and scored 19 goals and 47 points.
At the age of 23 Krebs played in 188 NHL games and scored 19 goals and 59 points.
In two years Krebs will be a younger, cheaper Laughton, while Laughton will not be a Sabre.

This is a very bad trade for Buffalo</div></div>


Not necessarily. .

Fundamental difference here is that one guy (Laughton) saw his ice time increase steady by his age 23 season, where as Krebs has since his ice time reduced and has gone backwards. He hasn’t been given a bigger role and more minutes and has been stuck with Girgensons and Okposo for the past year and a half.

As you said, Krebs is the player that you hope Laughton can be, actually, to be fair, you hope he can be more than Laughton, but Laughton is a realistic goal.

The problem is with Krebs, while he may have similar numbers to Krebs up to his age 23 season, Laughton took off afterwards and maintained a steady upward trajectory as a 30-40 pt third line winger, but he was able to do that when he went from 11 to 14-15 mins a night.

But with Krebs, for some reason, has seen the opposite. His ice time has been reduced since he’s been here and for some reason, the coaching staff and Granato has not been willing to promote him.

What it comes down to is, do you want to expedite the process of Krebs someday becoming a solid third liner, or is he destined to be a fourth line forward forever?

With Laughton, you know what you’re getting, and the Sabres are not in a position to wait for potential anymore.

If anything, the trade is not enough to get him, because Krebs is no longer worth the first rounder it will take to get Laughton.
Forum: Armchair-GM19 févr. à 12 h 43
Sujet: Adams Time
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Forum: Armchair-GM21 déc. 2023 à 2 h 12
Sujet: Shake-Up
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>Minnesota trade is overkill.</div></div>

Probably, but I like what Middleton brings to the table with the grit and physicality. Duhaime is just a throw in, but he’s another guy we can throw in for the penalty kill and will drop the gloves and give a high effort. Both guys will do that, something, we need more of.

Samuelsson and Power are both struggling this year, we definitely need some more help on the blue line, and I think Middleton is a highly underrated defenseman. He also has one more year of term left. If Minnesota decided to trade him, they will get a lot for him given the shallow market for defenseman outside of Calgary.

I don’t want to part with any firsts right, but Krebs doesn’t have value he once did. We’ve turned him into a fourth line defensively responsible center, but he may intrigue another team as a young roster player to tap into upside. Ostlund would be the centerpiece here. I’m sorry to say but we have five million young forward prospects, one of them needs to be moved. I think it’s appropriate for a top four defenseman with size and grit.

Not to mention, we will likely have yet another top ten pick this year.

A side not as well, Middleton doesn’t have a no trade clause, which makes his value even higher.

The theme I’m going for by adding Middleton and Kastelic ( and Duhaime, although he’s a UFA) is adding size and grit and trying to raise compete with term, and hoping Minnesota would want to add some young centers
Forum: Armchair-GM12 déc. 2023 à 22 h 35