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Créé par: OutCold13

Équipe: 2019-20 Wild du Minnesota

Date de création initiale: 1 févr. 2020

Publié: 2 févr. 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

After watching Wild come out of the break GMBG has seen enough and knows what he must do.
Zucker - trade
Staal - look for a 1st or top prospect.
Zuccarello - no GM is dumb enough to take this deal without completely screwing the Wild.
Parise - read Zuccarello description.
Koivu - probably won't except a trade.
Foligno - wouldn't trade him.
JEEK - If I'm not getting overpaid I'm not trading him.
Kunin - same as JEEK
Greenway - listening to my options on him if I get a 1st or good prospect it's a deal.
Rask - trade if anyone is willing to give anything for him.
Hartman - 4th rounder or equivalent piece.
Donato - 4th or better its deal.
Suter- still has value but no one will pony up.
Spurgeon - it will take the right deal to move him.
Brodin - trade only because he is one of the Wilds best bargaining chips.
Dumba - Wilds most valued player but the right deal isn't out there so he isn't moving revisit in the offseasons.
Saucy - keeping him.
Pateryn - 3rd or better I'll take it.
Seeler - has no value so he stays.
Hunt - 3rd or better.
Dubnyk - not worth anything. Buy out in offseason.
Stalock - he stays so Wild don't have to expose Kahkonen in expansion draft.
Tell me what you think. Oilers trade is a bit of a mess I think Wild need to add a little, but I feel like most of these pieces should be involved.

Transactions

MIN

Détails additionnels:

Galchenyuk is a cap dump if Pens fans want something in return for him than trade him a head of time and exclude him from this deal.
Wild don't get the prospects they want but they do get 2 guys who look like a 2nd pair guy and a future 2nd line guy if lucky one of them will develop into something more.

PIT

Zucker, Jason

Détails additionnels:

Zucker to Pit feels like a sure thing.

MIN

Bokk, Dominik
Haula, Erik
Martinook, Jordan
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (CAR)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (CAR)

Détails additionnels:

Martinook and Haula are both cap dumps by the canes to make the cap work they don't have to go to Wild feel free to move them in another deal.
Bokk and 2020 1st for Brodin
2021 1st for Staal

CAR

Détails additionnels:

Staal accepts this trade to finish with his brother whom he is very close with.

MIN

Lavoie, Raphael [Liste de réserve]
Neal, James
Puljujärvi, Jesse [Liste de réserve]
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (EDM)

Détails additionnels:

Spurgeon shores up the defense and Wild take Neal's less than desirable contract.

EDM

Donato, Ryan
Spurgeon, Jared
Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (MIN)

Détails additionnels:

Spurgeon sees the party is over in MN and excepts a trade to a contender which happens to be his home town.

Rachats de contrats

Tyler Ennis: 1 216 667 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2020
2021
2022

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
24	81 500 000 $	71 442 716 $	0 $	1 100 000 $	10 057 284 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Fiala, Kevin 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2	Koivu, Mikko 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ C NMC UFA - 1	Kunin, Luke 925 000 $925 000 $ (600 000 $$600K) AD, C RFA - 1
Parise, Zach 7 538 462 $7 538 462 $ AG NMC UFA - 6	Eriksson Ek, Joel 1 487 500 $1 487 500 $ C UFA - 2	Zuccarello, Mats 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AD, AG NMC UFA - 5
Foligno, Marcus 2 875 000 $2 875 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2	Sturm, Nico 874 125 $874 125 $ C UFA - 1	Bokk, Dominik 894 167 $894 167 $ AG, AD UFA - 4
Greenway, Jordan 916 666 $916 666 $ (500 000 $$500K) AG, AD UFA - 1	Hartman, Ryan 1 900 000 $1 900 000 $ C, AD UFA - 2	Neal, James 5 750 000 $5 750 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 4
	Rask, Victor 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ C UFA - 3

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Suter, Ryan 7 538 462 $7 538 462 $ DG NMC UFA - 6	Dumba, Matt 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ DD UFA - 4	Dubnyk, Devan 2 166 667 $2 166 667 $ G M-NTC UFA - 2
		Stalock, Alex 785 000 $785 000 $ G UFA - 3
Soucy, Carson 750 000 $750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Pateryn, Greg 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ DD UFA - 2
Seeler, Nick 725 000 $725 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2	Hunt, Brad 700 000 $700 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Martinook, Jordan 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2
Haula, Erik 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1
Galchenyuk, Alex 4 900 000 $4 900 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 1

2 févr. 2020 à 14 h 12

Couturier

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Massive underpay for Carolina. Edmonton doesn't need Spurgeon when Bear and Bouchard will soon be part of their top two pairings on the right side.

2 févr. 2020 à 14 h 18

Jdawglet

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Galchenyuk is probably a dump but 4 assets for Zucker is a bit high. Pens easily give the rest up for Zucker and try to move other assets with Galchenyuk for a RW.

2 févr. 2020 à 14 h 21

OutCold13

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Quoting: Couturier

Massive underpay for Carolina. Edmonton doesn't need Spurgeon when Bear and Bouchard will soon be part of their top two pairings on the right side.

Carolina massive overpay?
Staal would be there 2C Brodin would stabilize there defense. Brodin is worth a top prospect and a 1st and Staal is worth next years weaker draft late 1st.
Oilers have good young defenseman but could use a vetran in the playoffs, also I think the Idea of getting rid of Neal would be appealing to them.

2 févr. 2020 à 14 h 22

Caniac2000

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Carolina literally laugh you away, Bokk 2 1sts, and a 60 point pace player, for a 60 point pace player, and Brodin? No thank you sir

2 févr. 2020 à 14 h 25

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Quoting: Caniac2000

Carolina literally laugh you away, Bokk 2 1sts, and a 60 point pace player, for a 60 point pace player, and Brodin? No thank you sir

Martinhook and Haula don't have to come back read the details.

2 févr. 2020 à 14 h 25

OutCold13

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Quoting: Couturier

Massive underpay for Carolina. Edmonton doesn't need Spurgeon when Bear and Bouchard will soon be part of their top two pairings on the right side.

Sorry I misread the 1st part.

2 févr. 2020 à 14 h 26

OutCold13

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Quoting: Jdawglet

Galchenyuk is probably a dump but 4 assets for Zucker is a bit high. Pens easily give the rest up for Zucker and try to move other assets with Galchenyuk for a RW.

Read the details

2 févr. 2020 à 14 h 35

Couturier

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Quoting: Paul13

I may have misworded that. That Carolina trade is lopsided in your favor. That's essentially three first round picks (if Bokk is still considered a good prospect), a forward on pace for 50 points this year, and an "okay" bottom six forward. Erik Haula isn't a cap dump. All of that for two players who will be UFAs in two years. I agree that those are good pieces for Carolina, but it's not worth giving up all of that when they're not even an "all-in" team.

A RHD veteran for the playoffs could be useful for Edmonton, but getting Spurgeon is not the right move. Spurgeon is locked up long term and Edmonton soon won't need him, especially on that contract. There are other short-term options that are easier for Edmonton.

2 févr. 2020 à 15 h 0

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Quoting: Couturier

No I may be presenting the trade poorly. The trade is only Brodin and Staal for 20 and 21 firsts and Bokk. Haula and Martinook are just the guys I think they would move to make salary cap room. Carolina could trade Haula and Martinook to any other team for assets, that's why I have them scratched because they are not really on the team.
The Oilers trade you are right about. I figure after trading for spurgeon and riding themselves of Neals contract they could use some of their young defenseman as trade bait to get another forward. Maybe a Toffoli not sure what the best fit would be. Also I think the Oilers are really heavy at young good defenseman and might want to move a couple so Seattle doesn't just rob them.

2 févr. 2020 à 15 h 4

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mk458

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Edmonton has absolutely no need whatsoever for Spurgeon. We have a logjam at D and we aren't giving up a 1st to add a player that doesnn't address any need for us. Only player Edmonton might be interested in is Zucker

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2 févr. 2020 à 15 h 54

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Yojimbo

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Just the daily reminder... Galchenyuk has more points/60 and more hits/60 than Zucker this season. Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

2 févr. 2020 à 15 h 55

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Couturier

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Quoting: Paul13

In that case, then the value is closer, but might still not be there. It all depends on how much of a risk Carolina is willing to take. That's a lot of future assets that they are giving up when they are not guaranteed a playoff spot.

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2 févr. 2020 à 15 h 58

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Quoting: Yojimbo

Just the daily reminder... Galchenyuk has more points/60 and more hits/60 than Zucker this season. Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

Wild not anywhere near as good as Penguins. Zucker soars to new highs on playing with Crosby or Geno.
If Galchenyuk didn't suck he would play more.

2 févr. 2020 à 16 h 52

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Caniac2000

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Quoting: Paul13

Martinhook and Haula don't have to come back read the details.

Then drop them. 3 1sts (Bokk was a 1st rounder and still looks VERY promising) for Brodin and Staal is still a nope from Carolina

2 févr. 2020 à 17 h 23

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Yojimbo

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Quoting: Paul13

Wild not anywhere near as good as Penguins. Zucker soars to new highs on playing with Crosby or Geno.
If Galchenyuk didn't suck he would play more.

History shows that the "they will be better with Crosby/Malkin" is false.

You said Galchenyuk sucks... yet he out produces Zucker with their time on ice. So if Galchenyuk out produces offensively and physically per 60 more than Zucker... but Galchenyuk sucks... hmmmm?

2 févr. 2020 à 17 h 37

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Quoting: Yojimbo

It's ok you hold strong that Galchenyuk is a good player and I'll stick with my Zucker is a good player. We are two people with different opinions and I'm guessing we will never see eye to eye on this.

2 févr. 2020 à 17 h 50

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wabit

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Quoting: Yojimbo

Pit has a good PP and MN doesn't. 5v5 Zucker is .5 p/60 ahead of Chucky.

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3 févr. 2020 à 7 h 45

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Yojimbo

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Quoting: Paul13

I don't think that Galchenyuk is a good player this year. Just pointing out that he is out playing Zucker.

3 févr. 2020 à 7 h 54

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Yojimbo

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Quoting: wabit

Pit has a good PP and MN doesn't. 5v5 Zucker is .5 p/60 ahead of Chucky.

Ha! Nothing better than the counter position undercutting itself.

Minnesota PP: 20.0%, 13th in the league
Pittsburgh PP: 19.9%, 14th in the league

Completely false perceptions of reality. ...Just like the perception that Zucker is anything special, specifically when considering his contract.

3 févr. 2020 à 8 h 28

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wabit

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Quoting: Yojimbo

Zucker is fairly paid for what he is as a play. It's not a good or bad contract.

This season:
Chucky: 2.0p/60 (all), 1.5 p/60 (even), 5.3 p/60 (PP)
Zucker: 2.5p/60 (all), 2.2p/60 (even), 4.6 p/60 (PP)

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3 févr. 2020 à 9 h 10

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Quoting: mk458

Agreed. And even if Edmonton needed Spurgeon, he isn't worth essentially three 1st round picks. He's 30 and being paid over $7.5M for the next 7 years - yikes!

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3 févr. 2020 à 12 h 30

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Yojimbo

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Quoting: wabit

Yeah, and Galchenyuk is considered to be having a complete failure of a season... is also $600K cheaper and a UFA.

But I would like to go back to your comment that Pit has a good PP and MN doesn't...

3 févr. 2020 à 13 h 40

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OutCold13

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Quoting: Yojimbo

What exactly are you trying to say. Zucker is over rated and over paid. Penguins should instead play Galchenyuk? If he didn't suck Penguins would play him. Perhaps he sucks in the defensive zone. I don't know. What I do know is the Pens are not happy with his game. On the other hand the Wild are very pleased with Zucker. They just have too many wings. Statistics don't always tell the whole story. As far as I'm concerned I hope the Pens listen to you and just keep Galchenyuk that way he can continue to prove you right.

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