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Minny to reset Cgy Tor Pitts go for the cup

Créé par: DomCholette
Date de création initiale: jan 20, 2020
Publié: 20 jan 2020 à 14 h 58
Équipe: 2019-20 Canadiens de Montréal
Explications
AT TDL PETRY TATAR OUT
MINNY SUMMER TRADE AT TDL...
MINNY GETS 11-OA from MTL FOR ASKAROV
MTL GETS 16-OA from MINNY FOR HENDRIX LAPIERRE

NOW TELL ME WE WONT MAKE THE PLAYOFF
Transactions
MTL
  1. Hanifin, Noah
  2. Jankowski, Mark
CGY
  1. Tatar, Tomas
  2. Kulak, Brett
  3. 2020 4e round pick (WPG)
MTL
  1. DeSmith, Casey
PIT
  1. Kovalchuk, Ilya
MTL
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi
  2. 2020 4e round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Petry, Jeff
  2. Thompson, Nate
MTL
  1. 2020 2e round pick (WPG)
WPG
  1. Scandella, Marco (2 000 000 $ retained)
  2. 2020 5e round pick (FLA)
MTL
  1. Dumba, Matt
  2. Zucker, Jason
  3. 2020 1e round pick (MIN)
Détails additionnels:
1st pick No 15 -OA Trade to MTL to Acquire 10-OA
MTL will select 15OA Lapierre and jump in the playoff for years
MIN
  1. Lehkonen, Artturi
  2. Poehling, Ryan
  3. Brook, Josh
  4. 2020 1e round pick (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
MTL Lost Lukas Raymond on 9-OA and decide to exchange their 1st pick with MINNY Blockbuster for their reset
Rachats de contrats
  • Steve Mason: 1 366 667 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Marco Scandella: 2 000 000 $ (100%)
  • Marco Scandella: 2 000 000 $ (50%)
  • Ilya Kovalchuk: 350 000 $ (50%)
Enfoui
  • Dale Weise: 1 275 000 $ (2 350 000 $)
  • Matthew Peca: 225 000 $ (1 300 000 $)
  • Keith Kinkaid: 675 000 $ (1 750 000 $)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
MIN
MTL
CHI
WPG
MTL
MTL
ANA
TOR
MTL
MTL
CHI
2021
MTL
MTL
MTL
CHI
MTL
MTL
OTT
MTL
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2081 500 000 $76 115 475 $0 $3 057 500 $5 384 525 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
5 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 4
MTL
Danault, Phillip
3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 2
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
3 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
MIN
Zucker, Jason
5 500 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 4
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
863 333 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
TOR
Kapanen, Kasperi
3 200 000 $
AD
RFA - 3
MTL
Domi, Max
3 150 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
925 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
MTL
Armia, Joel
2 600 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
MTL
Weal, Jordan
1 400 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 2
CGY
Jankowski, Mark
1 675 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
MTL
Cousins, Nick
1 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
CGY
Hanifin, Noah
4 950 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
MTL
Weber, Shea
7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 7
MTL
Price, Carey
10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 7
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
3 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
MIN
Dumba, Matt
6 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
PIT
DeSmith, Casey
1 250 000 $
G
UFA - 3
MTL
Mete, Victor
748 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
MTL
Fleury, Cale
771 666 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
MTL
Byron, Paul
3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4

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20 jan 2020 à 15 h 00
#1
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This would be horrible for the Wild
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20 jan 2020 à 15 h 02
#2
Not JoshAnderson17
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We won't make the playoffs with Max Domi on the 3rd line
or that skaary 4th line
Needs an upgrade
20 jan 2020 à 15 h 05
#3
bigZ
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Pens would have signed kovy if he fir their team. We would be first on his list because of how close he is with geno but its clear pens had and still have no interest in him. Just doesnt fit our system. Hed be a chucky 2.0
20 jan 2020 à 15 h 09
#4
Beanmachine
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Yikes!

Calgary ain't trading a 22 year old top 4 D locked up for the next 5 yrs for under $5M per for a 29 year old winger with 1 year left on his contract !

Kulak and Janko are a wash.
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20 jan 2020 à 15 h 09
#5
Banni
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Quoting: bigZ98
Pens would have signed kovy if he fir their team. We would be first on his list because of how close he is with geno but its clear pens had and still have no interest in him. Just doesnt fit our system. Hed be a chucky 2.0


I hope you don’t compare Chucky to Kovalchuk? We are a thousand miles appart. Even if kovalchuk have lost some of is speed is hockey iq was, is and will be better then Galchenyuk. I do think that he could play with malkin and have success since they already been playing together on the russian team.
Comparing Kolvachuk to Chucky what a strange ideas and bad ideas.
20 jan 2020 à 15 h 10
#6
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Quoting: bigZ98
Pens would have signed kovy if he fir their team. We would be first on his list because of how close he is with geno but its clear pens had and still have no interest in him. Just doesnt fit our system. Hed be a chucky 2.0


The thing is Kovalchuk wanted to play with a team offering him top 6 minutes which is probably something contending team aren't able to do so.
20 jan 2020 à 15 h 14
#7
MNBassman
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Quoting: TanSor
This would be horrible for the Wild


I disagree. It would be worse than that!
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20 jan 2020 à 15 h 23
#8
bigZ
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Quoting: Sebybbqpower
I hope you don’t compare Chucky to Kovalchuk? We are a thousand miles appart. Even if kovalchuk have lost some of is speed is hockey iq was, is and will be better then Galchenyuk. I do think that he could play with malkin and have success since they already been playing together on the russian team.
Comparing Kolvachuk to Chucky what a strange ideas and bad ideas.


Its not about comparing their skill. Its about comparing how they both fit into the system. The penguins system is all about speed, dump and chase, heavy forecheck. Kovy does not fit that system just like chukcy doesnt. He is old, slow, and all he would be good for is on the PP but no reason for someone to take a full roster spot just for being a PP specialist. Just because they played a couple times on the russian team does not mean they will play well in the NHL. Malkin has finally bought into sully's system and bringing Kovy in would throw him off of that.
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20 jan 2020 à 15 h 37
#9
Banni
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Quoting: bigZ98
Its not about comparing their skill. Its about comparing how they both fit into the system. The penguins system is all about speed, dump and chase, heavy forecheck. Kovy does not fit that system just like chukcy doesnt. He is old, slow, and all he would be good for is on the PP but no reason for someone to take a full roster spot just for being a PP specialist. Just because they played a couple times on the russian team does not mean they will play well in the NHL. Malkin has finally bought into sully's system and bringing Kovy in would throw him off of that.


And how do you think Montreal style of play is.Montreal play the exact same way that Pittsburgh. Both are built on speed and heavy pressing down low to establish cycle. Your statement is a complete joke. Kovalchuk is use with a speedy danault and tatar and he is just fine. Malkin like to enter the offensive zone with puck control and often lets a trailer to is winger to stretch ice, kolvachuk could clearly be that winger with that hard release or he could find open rust or malkin with is higb hockey iq. I mean Montreal and Pittsburgh are literally playing the same style. The biggest difference is Pittsburgh have talent but the point if kovalchuk is able to skate with the high Mtl pace he will be able to speed with any team in the league.
20 jan 2020 à 15 h 48
#10
bigZ
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Quoting: Sebybbqpower
And how do you think Montreal style of play is.Montreal play the exact same way that Pittsburgh. Both are built on speed and heavy pressing down low to establish cycle. Your statement is a complete joke. Kovalchuk is use with a speedy danault and tatar and he is just fine. Malkin like to enter the offensive zone with puck control and often lets a trailer to is winger to stretch ice, kolvachuk could clearly be that winger with that hard release or he could find open rust or malkin with is higb hockey iq. I mean Montreal and Pittsburgh are literally playing the same style. The biggest difference is Pittsburgh have talent but the point if kovalchuk is able to skate with the high Mtl pace he will be able to speed with any team in the league.


First of all, no. You can say they play similar styles but to say they play the same style? Wrong. There is a reason Penguins are almost leading the league and montreal looks like a lottery team after every game. And dont give me any of the "But we dont have super stars like Crosby and Malkin" or "Habs have been injured all season". Both Geno and Crosby have missed significant time and guentzal is out for the season. No one has had more injuries to their star power or in general than the penguins. If the pens really wanted him we would have signed him. But we dont need him. Period. Why is that so hard for you to get? Jesus
20 jan 2020 à 15 h 51
#11
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where are the MTL Kov lovers who claim he's a great signing. I mean you'd want to hold onto him for the playoffs push right, wouldn't you???
Just more confirmation on how he is washed in this league. MTL fans can't wait to dump him hoping to get something that actually improves their team.
But most teams passed on him even at league min because they all know he can't keep up with the pace that teams want to play with. Especially in the playoffs when the speed of the game gets ratcheted up a notch.
20 jan 2020 à 15 h 58
#12
Banni
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Quoting: bigZ98
First of all, no. You can say they play similar styles but to say they play the same style? Wrong. There is a reason Penguins are almost leading the league and montreal looks like a lottery team after every game. And dont give me any of the "But we dont have super stars like Crosby and Malkin" or "Habs have been injured all season". Both Geno and Crosby have missed significant time and guentzal is out for the season. No one has had more injuries to their star power or in general than the penguins. If the pens really wanted him we would have signed him. But we dont need him. Period. Why is that so hard for you to get? Jesus

And what is so hard to get that he would fit perfectly the penguins! I want to see him beside malkin or crosby and i don’t care if you don’t. You don’t seem to know nothing about hockey since you can’t even realize that Mtl and Pittsburgh play the same style of Hockey. Pittsburgh have always been competitive when one of Malkin or Crosby have been in their line up and that goes back to early’s 2010’s. The pens are the only team to have multiple hart trophy winner. It might be difficult for you to understand that since you know fkall about the rest of the league. And as for Kovalchuk he would be a nice addition to the Pens.
20 jan 2020 à 16 h 00
#13
Banni
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Quoting: pharrow
where are the MTL Kov lovers who claim he's a great signing. I mean you'd want to hold onto him for the playoffs push right, wouldn't you???
Just more confirmation on how he is washed in this league. MTL fans can't wait to dump him hoping to get something that actually improves their team.
But most teams passed on him even at league min because they all know he can't keep up with the pace that teams want to play with. Especially in the playoffs when the speed of the game gets ratcheted up a notch.

You must be the brother of the other nobel prize winner. Talking about pace that team want to play when he play for one of the fastest team in the league. That is literally the stupidest comment someone could make.
20 jan 2020 à 20 h 06
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Quoting: Sebybbqpower
You must be the brother of the other nobel prize winner. Talking about pace that team want to play when he play for one of the fastest team in the league. That is literally the stupidest comment someone could make.


one of the "fastest" teams in the league tears of joy
omg homers on every team.
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20 jan 2020 à 22 h 29
#15
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Quoting: pharrow
one of the "fastest" teams in the league tears of joy
omg homers on every team.


Hey Guy's... don't want to disturb your fight... very intertaining... but what I think...
Domink Simon who is 24 yo or even Bleuberg came to play next to Crosby or Malkin and suddenly have success...
Good OK AHL player.... imagine the switch with Kovy for a peak playoff time... I seriously think depth is the key part and this addition would be a win. no doubt even playing on the third and 1st on PP.
20 jan 2020 à 22 h 37
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Quoting: MNBassman
I disagree. It would be worse than that!


I have seen post for Dumba for a top 9 player and a 2nd to be fair...
So imagine Minny wanting Askarov at the draft...
and make that 1st pick change in a blockbuster....
what is the cost of moving down 4 spot on the 1st round?
adding Top Prospect NHL ready Poehling C & RD Brook?
I think the Minny reset could work... No?
Zucc-Staal-Parise
Donato-Koivu-Fiala
Lehkonen-Erickson- Kunin
Suter- Spurg
Brodin- Hunt
Pateryn- Brook
20 jan 2020 à 22 h 40
#17
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Quoting: InTreWeTrust
Yikes!

Calgary ain't trading a 22 year old top 4 D locked up for the next 5 yrs for under $5M per for a 29 year old winger with 1 year left on his contract !

Kulak and Janko are a wash.


I agree with you but Cgy need more goals if they think they can go far in... Tatar fits perfectly and yes the cost would be hard...
but having Gio, Kinlington and Valimaki who will come back should make it for the lost of Hanifin
20 jan 2020 à 22 h 42
#18
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DomCholette
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
We won't make the playoffs with Max Domi on the 3rd line
or that skaary 4th line
Needs an upgrade


Domi still is with anger and playing 18min against lower skill player would be benifit for him.
4th line seriously.... hire back TGhonmpson with Weal and Cousin if you want!!!
20 jan 2020 à 23 h 11
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Quoting: DomCholette
Hey Guy's... don't want to disturb your fight... very intertaining... but what I think...
Domink Simon who is 24 yo or even Bleuberg came to play next to Crosby or Malkin and suddenly have success...
Good OK AHL player.... imagine the switch with Kovy for a peak playoff time... I seriously think depth is the key part and this addition would be a win. no doubt even playing on the third and 1st on PP.


The reason Simon has had any success playing on Crosby's line, and it's very limited at that, he simply is not a goal scorer.
Is because he's hard on the puck.
Those are frankly the only words one can use to describe him.
And that isn't Kovy. Simon can fight for that puck win it and then play keep away with it.
But lets not pretend he has had "success" playing on Crosby's wing he hasn't.
The penguins lack a real top line winger for him. But they need a real player, not scraps and left overs.
They can fill better than that from with in. I'd rather them bring in Legare and let him play. They'd be better results than that.
21 jan 2020 à 8 h 26
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bigZ
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Quoting: Sebybbqpower
And what is so hard to get that he would fit perfectly the penguins! I want to see him beside malkin or crosby and i don’t care if you don’t. You don’t seem to know nothing about hockey since you can’t even realize that Mtl and Pittsburgh play the same style of Hockey. Pittsburgh have always been competitive when one of Malkin or Crosby have been in their line up and that goes back to early’s 2010’s. The pens are the only team to have multiple hart trophy winner. It might be difficult for you to understand that since you know fkall about the rest of the league. And as for Kovalchuk he would be a nice addition to the Pens.


lol okay. It doesnt really matter if want to see him next to them cuz it wont happen. GMJR clearly did not want him on the team so i guess our three times cup winning GM knows as little about hockey as me. Go and watch your mediocre habs team play mediocre hockey and wish they ever had any success in their franchise in the recent era.
21 jan 2020 à 8 h 46
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Quoting: pharrow
The reason Simon has had any success playing on Crosby's line, and it's very limited at that, he simply is not a goal scorer.
Is because he's hard on the puck.
Those are frankly the only words one can use to describe him.
And that isn't Kovy. Simon can fight for that puck win it and then play keep away with it.
But lets not pretend he has had "success" playing on Crosby's wing he hasn't.
The penguins lack a real top line winger for him. But they need a real player, not scraps and left overs.
They can fill better than that from with in. I'd rather them bring in Legare and let him play. They'd be better results than that.


I think talented player like him would enjoy getting high talent player like Kovy... otherwise another would like Edm playing with McJesus
21 jan 2020 à 8 h 51
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So... Fair trade to help contender team?
And do MTL team problem are fixed for the next decade?
21 jan 2020 à 10 h 25
#23
MNBassman
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Quoting: DomCholette
I have seen post for Dumba for a top 9 player and a 2nd to be fair...
So imagine Minny wanting Askarov at the draft...
and make that 1st pick change in a blockbuster....
what is the cost of moving down 4 spot on the 1st round?
adding Top Prospect NHL ready Poehling C & RD Brook?
I think the Minny reset could work... No?
Zucc-Staal-Parise
Donato-Koivu-Fiala
Lehkonen-Erickson- Kunin
Suter- Spurg
Brodin- Hunt
Pateryn- Brook


Dumba and Zucker for Poehling, Brook, and the Habs 2020 (unprotected) 1st is a good starting point...
21 jan 2020 à 15 h 26
#24
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Quoting: DomCholette
I think talented player like him would enjoy getting high talent player like Kovy... otherwise another would like Edm playing with McJesus


I don't think Kovy could keep up with him. I mean that very honestly. They move that puck fast. Kovy doesn't play that game.
They want guys with speed on the wing of their older players. It's why you see Jake, Rust, McCann up there. They are all burners.
They explode up the ice. It's a track meet. No one is putting Kovy in a track meet.
 
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