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Créé par: gregb569
Équipe: 2019-20 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 17 janv. 2020
Publié: 17 janv. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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thoughts on trade values appreciated!

These moves are mainly to strengthen the bottom 6 obviously while adding guys who play complete games and can score (Coleman & Anderoson)

Also, Glendening is among the highest faceoff % guys in the league and I think the Pens should address especially come playoff time
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PIT
  1. Anderson, Josh
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  1. Bjugstad, Nick
  2. Hållander, Filip
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  1. Bahl, Kevin
  2. Coleman, Blake
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (NJD)
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NJD
  1. Galchenyuk, Alex
  2. Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
  3. Légaré, Nathan
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
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PIT
  1. Glendening, Luke
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2021 (DET)
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DET
  1. Bellerive, Jordy
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
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17 janv. 2020 à 7 h 23
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but why
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but why


Why? I mean you make trades to make your team better, no?
17 janv. 2020 à 7 h 34
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You'd have to look outside your division for trades. CBJ is only a couple of points(?) out of a wildcard position so they won't be looking to trade anything.

It's doubtful that NJD will move Bahl just after acquiring him in the Hall deal. They are also looking for G prospects at this point.

The Detroit trade isn't bad.
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Why? I mean you make trades to make your team better, no?


The ZAR, Blueger, Tanev line has been really good. Why break them up to gain a few % points in the faceoff dots?
Why take Rust away from Malkin? They've been killing it...
Why would NJ trade a top defensive prospect that they just acquired?
Why overpay for Josh Anderson? Who has 4 points on the season & then put him in the top 6...and to lose a trade like that to a division rival frown

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You'd have to look outside your division for trades. CBJ is only a couple of points(?) out of a wildcard position so they won't be looking to trade anything.

It's doubtful that NJD will move Bahl just after acquiring him in the Hall deal. They are also looking for G prospects at this point.

The Detroit trade isn't bad.


I don't think CBJ would passup a B prospect and a replacement for Anderson in Bjugstad straight up but I could be wrong. Seems like good value to me.
I know they're unlikely to trade Bahl I just want him lol
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The ZAR, Blueger, Tanev line has been really good. Why break them up to gain a few % points in the faceoff dots?
Why take Rust away from Malkin? They've been killing it...
Why would NJ trade a top defensive prospect that they just acquired?
Why overpay for Josh Anderson? Who has 4 points on the season & then put him in the top 6...and to lose a trade like that to a division rival frown

oye vey....


My bad I meant to put Anderson with Sid lol cause I agree Rust+Malkin should stick together they've been playing great!
I'm not opposed to keeping them together, I just don't really trust Blug in the dot especially come playoff time.. if anything make a Coleman-Glendening-Horny line.
(wanted Tanev-Coleman-Horny cause that line would be MAYHEM and difficult to play against)
NJ wont trade Bahl just more of a want for me I love his game especially if you could pair him and Addison together for the future
I love Andersons game and he plays the style PIT is playing, he could have a big bounce back on Sids wing and he's still young we could lock him up for the foreseeable future
17 janv. 2020 à 8 h 17
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My bad I meant to put Anderson with Sid lol cause I agree Rust+Malkin should stick together they've been playing great!
I'm not opposed to keeping them together, I just don't really trust Blug in the dot especially come playoff time.. if anything make a Coleman-Glendening-Horny line.
(wanted Tanev-Coleman-Horny cause that line would be MAYHEM and difficult to play against)
NJ wont trade Bahl just more of a want for me I love his game especially if you could pair him and Addison together for the future
I love Andersons game and he plays the style PIT is playing, he could have a big bounce back on Sids wing and he's still young we could lock him up for the foreseeable future


I think Anderson is free agent after this season. It might be wiser to try and grab him in the offseason than to give up futures to a rival to get him for what could be only a couple months.
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I don't think CBJ would passup a B prospect and a replacement for Anderson in Bjugstad straight up but I could be wrong. Seems like good value to me.
I know they're unlikely to trade Bahl I just want him lol


He is a treat to watch here in Ottawa (67's). He's big and mean.
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I think Anderson is free agent after this season. It might be wiser to try and grab him in the offseason than to give up futures to a rival to get him for what could be only a couple months.


I'm wrong..he's still an rfa. But tough trade to make either way
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I think You over paid a lot on all but I would really like that team.
- Like the Right handed Center P/u in Clendening too
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I'm wrong..he's still an rfa. But tough trade to make either way


I know we could get him in RFA but I fear they'll match unless we overpay drastically which we shouldn't.
I don't think having to play Bjug or Hallander is THAT big of a deal, idk, I just love his game and we definitely could use a player like him
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I think You over paid a lot on all but I would really like that team.
- Like the Right handed Center P/u in Clendening too


What would you change about the trades? Curious
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What would you change about the trades? Curious


IMO, u could get Clendening for just a 4th or 5th at deadline
- Anderson value is low rite now, I think Bjugstad & mid rd pick for Anderson & 7th rdr - (he has played worse than Chucky this season) 4points in 26 games
- Coleman is a type of player u may have to pry away from a team bc Im sure NJD value him a ton - So not sure there
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The Jackets will not sell low on Anderson. You'd need to offer much better assets than that. It's probably not worth pursuing.
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The Jackets will not sell low on Anderson. You'd need to offer much better assets than that. It's probably not worth pursuing.


His replacement + 2nd round prospect isn't enough?
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As a Detroit fan that trade is fine. What about swapping Bellerive for Pierre-Olivier and making it 1 for 1? Detroit needs D prospects more than forward prospects. I don't know how Pittsburgh values Pierre-Olivier I chose him because all of the Pittsburgh prospect rankings have I've seen him below Bellerive.
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As a Detroit fan that trade is fine. What about swapping Bellerive for Pierre-Olivier and making it 1 for 1? Detroit needs D prospects more than forward prospects. I don't know how Pittsburgh values Pierre-Olivier I chose him because all of the Pittsburgh prospect rankings have I've seen him below Bellerive.


For that trade I think I'd rather give up Bellerive just because pens have plethora of young forwards RN and can't say the same for Defence
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His replacement + 2nd round prospect isn't enough?

Bjugstad doesn't even come within the same neighborhood of an Anderson replacement. So no.
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Bjugstad doesn't even come within the same neighborhood of an Anderson replacement. So no.


I mean Bjugstad has a higher career PPG with almost 200 more games... he's played in 10 games this year and almost matched Andersons production, plus you're getting a 2nd
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I mean Bjugstad has a higher career PPG with almost 200 more games... he's played in 10 games this year and almost matched Andersons production, plus you're getting a 2nd

That's nice. He doesn't replicate Anderson's skillset. Still no.
 
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