i dont think they would pay this much for kovalchuk he was free for so long so why giving a 2 round when they could ahve just sign up earlier

Dreaming is fun

Retain part of Weber's contract and you have a done deal instantly. Sorry Johnsson

Montreal rejects the first trade. A bottom 6 winger and and bottom pairing defensemen and a late first round pick. Montreal isn't going to trade Weber for that.

All other trades look good.

I mean they aren't the ones rejecting the trade they are proposing it but I see what you are getting at.

Lol, we could have signed Kovi for minimum and did not want him what makes you think they’d trade for him...especially with Habs. Crazy.

Ceci wtf

Toronto probably take it, although that's not a good return for Weber

Carolina laugh, and hang up. They do not need more forwards, they do not want to make a trade with Montreal and that is an OVERPAYMENT if I've ever seen one for Tatar.

Winnipeg probably take it because it improves on their coffee cup lids and stirers,

Boston Laugh, they could have had Kovy for league min, why would they give up a 2nd for him? You may get a 5th for him right now

Arizona trade is whatever, who cares.

Washingto probably reject because they have a good enough D core, and for that cap hit and that price, he doesn't improve anything

Bruins (and 29 other teams) didn't sign him because he hadn't proven he can play while in LA. They didn't take the low risk because they didn't see a need for it. Montreal has so many injuries, they had a top6 spot for him to fill and so far he is proving he isn't just an NHL player, but could still be a top6 producer.

So yes, Bruins could have had him for free, but they decided against it. That doesn't lock Kovalchuk's value in at 0, it moves, as he proves he can still play.

Leafs need to dump cap, Habs need a warm body. Plus, it really helps the tank...

Tatar is signed another year and at $2.4M. Maybe Canes don't need/want him. But it seems like fair value for a player close to 30g production at that cap hit. I have seen less skilled rentals go for more.

Again with Kovy, he is proving he can play. His value isn't locked in, it changes as he proves what he can still do. Last week anyone could have got him for free, this week he got 3 points in 2 games where in played over 20min in back to back nights. His value is no longer "free".

Clearly our top line LW would be a bottom 6 winger on a powerhouse like the Habs.... Montreal would be very smart to make this move. Toronto should be weary.

His value is free... players don’t gain and lose value from game to game.

The dead cat bounce. Don't be fooled.

Lol, ok there. If Bergevin sells at the deadline, we'll see what Kovalchuk fetches. If he maintains this production, and can be a useful top6 winger for a contender as $700k as a rental, we'll see which team gets him for "free". Would love to hear a phone call of Dubas asking Montreal for Kovy for free right now. See how that goes.

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Return depends on how he does over the next few weeks. So far he is 3 points in 2 games and averaged 20toi on back to back nights."

I can't say he will be awesome for the next few weeks, or that he will suck for the next few weeks with any certainty. Its easy to come in here and pretend like his value is "free" because he was just picked up, but that's not how player value works.

I didn't say he was "free", I said don't be fooled by the 3 points in 2 games. Remember when Poehling scored 3 in his debute and Habs fans thought he was the next Ovechkin? That's what this is, but at the end of a career.

Tomas Tatar who hasn't scored a point in like 10 games or something per Eric Engles is worth THIS? I think you need to re-evaluate. Using the pace argument isn't a good idea. Sebastian Aho is on pace for 40+ goals, he's not gonna get it, but he's on pace for it. Tatar only has 1 year left as well, so it's not like he has term on his deal. I think you may get a 1st and a B prospect, or a 2nd, 3rd and a C prospect, but I don't think you'll get more than that.

Kocalchuck has an incredibly small sample size. 2 games is not going to change his value. If he does it over 20 games, we can talk. 2 games? No

I don't think any logical fan thought Poehling was gonna be a prolific goal scorer. We had fun with the jokes but were just having fun with it. Every fanbase has idiots though, so if you ran into some that really thought that, well, what can we do, haha.

Yeah, depending on how he plays for the next few weeks, his return will either rise or lower (or be null if he just bombs it from here on out). I am ok with that, but so far, it seems he could fetch us a nice return for a free asset in January.

I agree with the first part, his value at the deadline isn't set yet. Of course, playing him with Tatar and Danault will help, but I don't realistically see a scenario where he gets a 2nd in return.

Who knows, stranger things have happened.

Fair point on Tatar, maybe his value is a bit lower than I have there. But still assuming two good assets.

Kovy, all I can talk of is what he has done, and talk about "if" this and "if" that. If they traded him right now, yeah, value wont be high, but if he keeps this up, then his value drives up. That's all I mean.

2nd round picks are thrown around like candy at the deadline. It wouldn't surprise me if its a second or more depending on his play.

He plays on the top line because he complements his line mates. He's clearly not a top 6 winger. It's like saying Connor Brown is a 1st line forward.

Yeah, if he keeps this up it's different, but if he goes 7 games without scoring now, his value is gonna be about the same as it is now, so it's circumstantial, he's NOT worth a 2nd rounder right now though

Connor brown is a middle 6 winger... people like you called him a 4th liner. Johnsson is a perfectly fine middle too 6 winger capable of generating his own offence.