I feel sorry for the team that trades a 1st for Kreider

ya not worth it especially with this draft

Panthers decline easily....Tallon doesn’t give up 1st round picks plus Noel is a top prospect. Maybe a couple of lower level prospects and mid round picks

maybe next years first that has conditions similar to the JT miller trade. Kreider's performance has been a joke this year - hardly worth a 2nd

If i am Oilers gm, I am not trading my first away PERIOD. Patience is a must, took us 10 years and one more year for our prospects is fine. Benson is so close to NHL ready and this draft is a power draft

Rangers can ask for whatever they want, and that may be their ask but that’s always the case every year for rentals and rarely do teams hit their full value, just look at hall. Devils didn’t get their ask

Denisenko, Knight, Tippett are top prospects. Noel is what we call a B prospect.

Lmao I wouldn't give up Barré-Boulet alone for a rentsal Kreider. Next.

That's nice. But this is what the experts are saying the cost is. Not even what the ask is... The ask is probably higher and this is what you settle on...

Again, this isn't what I'm saying he should go for. This is what people who do this for a living say he will go for when all is said and done...

This isn't the report of the Rangers ask. This is what they say ultimately it will cost. The ask will be higher than that...

Your definition of a "B" prospect varies DRASTICALLY (again, why I hate the letter rating scale people love to use for prospects bc they don't have to show how little they actually know, just give a very wide range of "B" then if someone says he isn't a "B" prospect just say your definition of a "B" prospect is different from mine)

Well then leave the Oielrs out as we need a 3rd line center more importantly

I mean I'd say you need a lot more than that. But if you can ride the backs of a 2 man PP all the way to the cup then feel free. Holland has a history of making moves at the deadline....

Tsn said "mid-level prospect". Some of these guys are higher than that.

2 man PP?? Which 2 men are you crediting for the PP? Is one of them 2nd in the league in PP goals?

I feel even more sorry for the team that pays him 6+ million next summer. I mean he’s good but he’s never hit 30 goals and he’s not that exciting of a player.

Good point, but no oilers fans expected to make the playoffs this year adn i still do not think we will

You’re going to get the Evander Kane return. A 2 that can turn into a 1z

For reference, here's where each prospect ranks within their own team:

Beaucage: 6th - Behind Byram/Newhook/Kaut/Kamenev/Bowers If you still consider players like Jost prospects then it's lower lol
Benson: 4th - Behind Broberg, Bouchard, Lavoie though some put Samorukov ahead of there too
Noel: 5th - Behind Denisenko, Tippett, Knight, and Heponiemi
Afanasyev: 4th Behind Tolvanen, Tomasino, Fabbro (Though some like Pitlick ahead of him)
Koivula: 8th? Behind Dobson, Wahlstrom, Wilde, Bellows, Ishakov, Sorokin, Holmstrom
Brink: 5th? Behind Farabee, Frost, York, Myers, Some like Ratcliffe ahead of him
Legare: 4th Behind Addison, Poulin, Hallander, though some like POJ too
Barre Boulet: 6th? Behind Foote, Raddysh, Foote, Walker, Volkov.
Kuokkanen: 7th? Behind Necas, Suzuki, Bean, Bokk, Rees. Puistola
MEP: 3rd Behind Dube and Pelletier, But if you're considering Valimaki, Rasmus, Klyington, and Mangiapane well then he's behind that too.


Essentially, teams with not great systems keep their top 3 prospects and teams with great systems keep their top 5-6 prospects. If that's not mid level, I'm not really sure what is.

More likely the Nash return based on every report.

yeah, I mean that matters less to us. What matters for other teams is if you try

The 2 that account for more than 50% of the team's goals? who derive about half their points from the PP?

So you missed the guy who is 2nd in the league in PP goals. Got it.

Insiders Don’t make up values for fun, that value was leaked to
The guys by the rangers. That’s how these things work