I think the Leafs would need to add value-wise, but the idea is there. Sheshterkin looks ready for the NHL, so Georgiev should become expendable. I just think NYR could get more in a trade than this.

You can probably get a backup goalie for a 3rd to a 4th depending on the level of player.
At most a 2nd.
It's not like those 3rd and 4th round picks mean of jack crap anyway.
Odds they become an NHL career player are under 15%

I think you are really close here man. I would expect that the Rangers would want more though. Adding a 3rd or possible a 4th probably gets it done. Rangers fans??? Your thoughts??

Not nearly enough. Some folks think Georgiev might be better than Shesty and could be the long term number 1 (i am not one of them but goalies are voodoo). I think the MINIMUM return for Georgiev is the Talbot package (a 2nd, a 3rd and a 7th). I personally think he gets more than that. So if Bracco is worth a 3rd, I think baseline here is Bracco and a 2021 2nd to get the convo started, since they arent likely to move a 2020 2nd with no 1.

One thing worries me is that Georgiev has looked a shaky at times this season.

Overall, adding a 4th gets this deal done IMO.

I think Bracco and a 2nd is a fair deal. If NYR are somehow able to juggle 3 goaltenders next year and give them all starts, they should opt to do that. Having Shestyorkin and Georgiev 2 years from now would be a great tandem.

On a bad team though. That does mean something. I do understand your position here.

Thanks for the feedback. Speaking from a Leafs perspective, I think that is a little heavy. If it were Bracco + 3rd + 6th, I would be much more apt to consider it. Negotiations always start high on both sides and progress towards the middle. If the Rangers feel that Georgiev can return more than that, they should explore that instead. Personally, I don't.

Again, thanks for posting. Cheers.

Georgy costs 2 2nds. If you want to add Bracco that knocks out 1 of those 2nds...

So 2nd + Bracco.

Don't get me though, like @jamiepo said Bracco and 4th for Georgiev (50 % retention)

That is still an overpay IMO. I do understand your position here because the Leafs are not in a position of strength in this particular transaction. I don't think that the Rangers get TWO 2nds for Georgiev from ANY team in the NHL. That is just overvaluing your own assets IMO.

I mean that's nice. Though allow me to retort with data (not opinions). The 2 major metrics for evaluating goaltenders properly are dFSV% and GSAx. Over the last 3 seasons, among all goaltenders Georgiev ranks in the top 15 in both.

That's a good foundation because it gives us something to measure against with a nice large sample size. Over the last 10 years there have been 3 goalies to put up those numbers (well 4 if we count Martin Jones but he was traded after 2 NHL seasons) and have been traded. They are:

Philip Grubauer: Traded at age 26 with Brooks Orpik (equivalent of a 1st or 2nd rounder depending on your valuation - reference: Marleau cost a 1st and the cap hit difference was less than a mil) for a 2nd.
Cory Schneider: Traded at age 27 for 12th Overall Pick.
Frederick Anderson: Traded at age 26 for a 1st and 2nd Round pick.
Martin Jones: Traded at age 25 for a 1st round pick and Sean Kuraly.

Now Georgiev is younger (23) meaning his rights with the team are held for longer. That would inherently make him more valuable. The lowest any comparable players were dealt for is ~2 2nd rounders (and even that might be a low estimate). Really Georgiev's value is around a 1st heh.

Again, just using the stats here and the comparables, these aren't opinions.

I see what you are saying and I appreciate your insight. The stats are the stats. I just think that 2 X 2nd round picks is too much. If Georgiev was a starting goaltender, I may feel differently about it. At present, he is not. Agree to disagree I suppose. Thanks again for your feedback.

Im the rangers fan who made the trade earlier! I personally think georgiev is v solid and as a ranger fan would love to get as much back for him as possible. Only reason i didnt add more is because goalies tend to have weird value in the nhl for trades so its hard to guess whatll make a gm bite. Thinking back to past rangers trades, NYR traded Talbot (when he was their backup) when his value shouldve been really high but got back a really underwhelming return. Gorton is a better GM than sather though and also georgiev has played great against the leafs so who knows...

No worries. I don't think it makes sense to deal to a team that will just use him as a backup. Makes more sense to give him to a team like Minnesota/Detroit/San Jose/Calgary to be their starter...

He's splitting with Hank this year. In all fairness he's a starter if Hank wasn't the other goalie.