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Not worth 11M trading MitchFlyers

Créé par: JoeForts
Date de création initiale: aoû 23, 2019
Publié: Aug 23, 2019 at 2:07 pm
Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Explications
I know it would be real hard to trade him unsigned but whatever. Flyer fans, fair trade?
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANNÉESCAP HIT
Konecny, Travis35 500 000 $
UFAANNÉESCAP HIT
Maroon, Patrick12 500 000 $
Transactions
TOR
  1. Konecny, Travis [Droits de RFA]
  2. Myers, Philippe
PHI
  1. Marner, Mitchell [Droits de RFA]
Rachats de contrats
  • Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
  • Robin Lehner: 1 100 000 $ (22%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
TOR
CBJ
TOR
VGK
TOR
CAR
COL
EDM
SJS
STL
WPG
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $81 350 255 $0 $82 500 $149 745 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
TOR
Johnsson, Andreas
3 400 000 $
AG
UFA - 4
TOR
Matthews, Auston
11 634 000 $
C
UFA - 5
TOR
Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
AD, AG
UFA - 5
Maroon, Patrick
2 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
TOR
Tavares, John
11 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 6
Konecny, Travis
5 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 6
TOR
Moore, Trevor
775 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 2
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
3 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
TOR
Kapanen, Kasperi
3 200 000 $
AD
RFA - 3
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
700 000 $
C, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Bracco, Jeremy
842 500 $
AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
TOR
Ceci, Cody
4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
5 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
4 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
TOR
Barrie, Tyson
2 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
TOR
Hutchinson, Michael
700 000 $
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
894 167 $
DG
RFA - 3
PHI
Myers, Philippe
678 889 $
DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
TOR
Schmaltz, Jordan
700 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
TOR
Dermott, Travis
863 333 $
DG
RFA - 1
TOR
Horton, Nathan
5 300 000 $
AD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Petan, Nicolas
775 000 $
AG, AD, C
RFA - 2
TOR
Hyman, Zach
2 250 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Clarkson, David
5 250 000 $
AD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1

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23 aoû 2019 à 17 h 24
#26
Rejoint: oct 2016
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Modifié 23 aoû 2019 à 17 h 31
Quoting: LoganOllivier
Cool a bunch of uber fans of different teams don't like me because I don't want to give away top end players for very little because it would be convenient for the team you are a fan of. I couldn't possibly tell you how much this bothers me.......because I don't care at all.


its one thing to think fans of other teams are wrong in their assessment of your team, in this case the Leafs. It's a complete other thing to go on an uncalled for tirade, which is sorta your bread and butter. There have been like three or four occasions this summer where I commented something about how Mitch wants the Matthews contract, and you responded at length about... John Tavares.
23 aoû 2019 à 17 h 56
#27
Rejoint: mai 2018
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Quoting: CD282
That's insane if true.


Way out in left field kinda crazy.

Oh well. Reality will come knocking at some point.
Sign_em_up000000 et CD282 a aimé ceci.
23 aoû 2019 à 19 h 16
#28
Démarrer sujet
Rejoint: avr 2019
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Quoting: LoganOllivier
Okay pump the brakes a little here boss.

1) Yes Tavares obviously helped Marner to a career year
2) Marner also helped Tavares to a career year
3) Young players are going to get paid if they are top contributors. Its just the way the market is moving.
4) I agree Marner shouldn't get 11 million, I am hoping for a 6 year deal around 9.5 million
5) Everyone on here either doesn't know or doesn't remember that the year before last Marner played at an above a point a game pace for the second half of the season once he was put on Kadri's line with Marleau.

Marner isn't overrated, his agent is a clown who is overreaching and this whole thing is getting way too much attention.


I guess overrated was the wrong word to use, lets say overvalued .... and you're right, 9.5M is more than fair at 6 years.
23 aoû 2019 à 20 h 13
#29
LongtimeLeafsufferer
Rejoint: jui 2015
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Modifié 23 aoû 2019 à 20 h 26
Quoting: JoeForts
There is also this illusion in your head that because Toronto doesn't want to go over 10.5 that atomically means other teams aren't willing to go over it. I'm pretty sure Panarin signed for 11.5M.


That's totally inaccurate. Mitch can sign with any team you want. Teams can sign Mitch. So where are these 11.5m offers? So let's not be delusional at all, that the Leafs are holding back Marner from making over 10.5m. Apparently not one other NHL team has offered over 10.5m They haven''t come all summer.
I know there is a lot of Leaf haters think the Leafs (and their fans) are so unfair with Marner. Guess the other nine teams that haven't signed their high profile RFAs and their fans have illusions too on what is a fair contract.
Traditionally UFAs like Panarin get paid more than RFAs, especially those just coming off their ELCs.
23 aoû 2019 à 23 h 59
#30
johnjohn
Rejoint: fév 2019
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Quoting: linehan10
Logan is easily the biggest clown on this site


You nailed it . Doesn’t have a clue but thinks he is an expert lol. Too funny. I don’t ever bother with this site much anymore because guys like this clown think they know something but really are clueless
24 aoû 2019 à 1 h 19
#31
Rejoint: jun 2019
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Quoting: blowing_the_zone
I just read something on another thread where Friedman reported that Mitch has said no to an 11M/8yr offer from the leafs. Who knows if that's true.. but if it is? Lol. Fire him and his ego into the sun and make a trade.. or sit him for the year and revisit this next year when he comes back to earth.

Marners only way out is to sign an OS and the leafs let him go for 4 firsts, or they match and get him for under 10.55M... neither of which are coming. Either way, I don't see the leafs losing this one. I imagine they'll take the kid gloves off soon, regardless of how sensitive his camp can get about things.. and if he's still sitting g on his high horse then he'll get traded.


Well said, sir! You summed it up very well
24 aoû 2019 à 1 h 21
#32
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Quoting: blowing_the_zone
Way out in left field kinda crazy.

Oh well. Reality will come knocking at some point.


We can only hope...
24 aoû 2019 à 9 h 23
#33
I just need sauce
Rejoint: oct 2017
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Quoting: CBJ4CUP
im just curious.. what players would u choose over him?


Pasta
Draisaitl
Any number 1 defenseman.
Just to name a few
24 aoû 2019 à 9 h 32
#34
I just need sauce
Rejoint: oct 2017
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Quoting: palhal
That's totally inaccurate. Mitch can sign with any team you want. Teams can sign Mitch. So where are these 11.5m offers? So let's not be delusional at all, that the Leafs are holding back Marner from making over 10.5m. Apparently not one other NHL team has offered over 10.5m They haven''t come all summer.
I know there is a lot of Leaf haters think the Leafs (and their fans) are so unfair with Marner. Guess the other nine teams that haven't signed their high profile RFAs and their fans have illusions too on what is a fair contract.
Traditionally UFAs like Panarin get paid more than RFAs, especially those just coming off their ELCs.


Except Vancouver and Columbus, where the players and the fan agree, werenski is asking for 5*3 and border is 7*4. Both would take them to RFA.
I am sure all these players are asking for short deals with fair AAV except Ferris. 7 million for a potential 40 goal scorer, and 5 million for a top 20 defenseman, no matter the term, is a steal. I would assume that a lot of these fans that see what they are offering, they are now on the players side.

Releasing their ask is a good strategy, as it is something that the fans could get behind. The fans start getting impatient, and the GM has to cave.
 
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