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TML 2019 we help teams in Cap crunch

Créé par: Laudan
Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 11 juill. 2019
Publié: 12 juill. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
37 716 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 200 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Hamonic, Travis (1 300 000 $ retained)
CGY
  1. Dermott, Travis
  2. Timashov, Dmytro
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (TOR)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
2.
ARI
  1. Ceci, Cody
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (TOR)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (TOR)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $81 507 009 $0 $0 $-7 009 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 6
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7 716 000 $7 716 000 $
AD
UFA - 6
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775 000 $775 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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11 634 000 $11 634 000 $
C
UFA - 5
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6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
UFA - 5
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 4
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3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
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737 500 $737 500 $
AG
UFA - 2
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700 000 $700 000 $
C, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
NMC
UFA - 2
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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700 000 $700 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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2 557 143 $2 557 143 $
DD
UFA - 1
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
DG
UFA
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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775 000 $775 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 2
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5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AD
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UFA - 1
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700 000 $700 000 $
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UFA - 1

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12 juill. 2019 à 14 h 13
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ARI - 2 players short with 150k left in pot

CGY - in the need of 15M for Tkachuk, Bennett & Rittich
12 juill. 2019 à 14 h 15
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ARI in troubles

CGY in the need of 15M for Tkachuk, Bennett & Rittich


they will have plenty of money to pay tkachuk, bennett, and rittich.
12 juill. 2019 à 14 h 20
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ARI - 2 players short with 150k left in pot

CGY - in the need of 15M for Tkachuk, Bennett & Rittich


You say CGY is in trouble but they still retain $1.3 on Hamonic? That doesn't make sense.

Plus, they have plenty of money to sign all three of those guys.
12 juill. 2019 à 14 h 29
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Leafs never trade Dermott in a trade that gets you Hamonic one year from UFA. Terrible asset management unless he comes with an extension, plus you are adding to 2nd rounders and a good prospect to get a little salary retained. Not a good trade
12 juill. 2019 à 14 h 32
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Modifié 12 juill. 2019 à 18 h 12
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Leafs never trade Dermott in a trade that gets you Hamonic one year from UFA. Terrible asset management unless he comes with an extension, plus you are adding to 2nd rounders and a good prospect to get a little salary retained. Not a good trade


Damn, do i really have to write the Part 2 everytime...ofc Hamonic is re-signed and Barrie is on the way out, 7,5M+ is no go with them kids demanding all time Premium contracts...so next year D :

Rielly - Hjalmarsson ........5M + 5M
Muzzin - Hamonic............5M + 5M.............Muzzin 4 x 5M, Hamonic 5 x 5M
Sandin - Liljegren

So here you see Dermott isnt in the picture anymore, cause we have like bunch of D of his kind, but no ppl like Muzzin and Hjalmarsson who can hit.

the whole team is 24y of average....you need some maturity on positions that matters

Hamonic trade breakdown ( he was 1st and 2 x 2nds when traded from NYI )

2x 2nds and Dermott....overpayment of Dermott and Tymashov for retaining

As i said, Dermott fell out of Depth chart, also Tymashov will never make it past LW Checkers ( Hyman, Johnsson, Marchment, Mikheyev, Engvall, Moore ) and RW speedy wingers ( Marner, Nylander, Kapanen, Bracco )
12 juill. 2019 à 14 h 45
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this is so stupid tears of joy
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12 juill. 2019 à 14 h 47
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this is so stupid tears of joy


Like most of your butthurting posts in TML threads....
12 juill. 2019 à 14 h 48
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Like most of your butthurting posts in TML threads....


nah thats gregb569 not me
12 juill. 2019 à 14 h 55
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Damn, do i really have to write the Part 2 everytime...ofc Hamonic is re-signed and Barrie is on the way out...so next year D :

Rielly - Hjalmarsson ........5M + 5M
Muzzin - Hamonic............5M + 5M.............Muzzin 4 x 5M, Hamonic 5 x 5M
Sandin - Liljegren

So here you see Dermott isnt in the picture anymore, cause we have like bunch of D of his kind, but no ppl like Muzzin and Hjalmarsson who can hit.

the whole team is 24y of average....you need some maturity on positions that matters

Hamonic trade breakdown ( he was 1st and 2 x 2nds when traded from NYI )

2x 2nds and Dermott....overpayment of Dermott and Tymashov for retaining

As i said, Dermott fell out of Depth chart, also Tymashov will never make it past LW Checkers ( Hyman, Johnsson, Marchment, Mikheyev, Engvall, Moore ) and RW speedy wingers ( Marner, Nylander, Kapanen, Bracco )


While your explanation of the next couple years makes sense for this all to happen, I'm having a hard time trading Dermott.
No doubt you thought this through.. I..just have a hard time justifying trading Dermott.

Already mentioned other times about how HHjalmarsson has alot of mileage on him and staying away is best.
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12 juill. 2019 à 15 h 20
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Quoting: Laudan
Damn, do i really have to write the Part 2 everytime...ofc Hamonic is re-signed and Barrie is on the way out...so next year D :

Rielly - Hjalmarsson ........5M + 5M
Muzzin - Hamonic............5M + 5M.............Muzzin 4 x 5M, Hamonic 5 x 5M
Sandin - Liljegren

So here you see Dermott isnt in the picture anymore, cause we have like bunch of D of his kind, but no ppl like Muzzin and Hjalmarsson who can hit.

the whole team is 24y of average....you need some maturity on positions that matters

Hamonic trade breakdown ( he was 1st and 2 x 2nds when traded from NYI )

2x 2nds and Dermott....overpayment of Dermott and Tymashov for retaining

As i said, Dermott fell out of Depth chart, also Tymashov will never make it past LW Checkers ( Hyman, Johnsson, Marchment, Mikheyev, Engvall, Moore ) and RW speedy wingers ( Marner, Nylander, Kapanen, Bracco )


While I like this, I still don't like the idea of moving cost controlled Dermott.

I want my cake and i want to eat it too.
Meaning I'd rather look at giving an asset that is not of the following instead :

Dermott, Liljergen, Sandin, or Rasanen
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12 juill. 2019 à 15 h 46
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Woah

7.7 million per year for Marner
Love it, make it happen @laudan
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12 juill. 2019 à 15 h 56
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Woah

7.7 million per year for Marner
Love it, make it happen @laudan


I lol'd when I saw that...
Didn't say anything cause I was fully expecting someone to come in here and start talking Marner for the 10 millionth time.
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12 juill. 2019 à 16 h 11
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I lol'd when I saw that...
Didn't say anything cause I was fully expecting someone to come in here and start talking Marner for the 10 millionth time.


Reality is that 7.7 for 3 years is accurate based off the market set by Aho deal at 8.4 for 5 years.
12 juill. 2019 à 16 h 24
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Reality is that 7.7 for 3 years is accurate based off the market set by Aho deal at 8.4 for 5 years.


Probably and when you couple that with the position, players on his line, it makes this case much stronger.

Truth is here on capfriendly you just can't get true value for a player because of the personal biases people bring into discussions.
12 juill. 2019 à 17 h 16
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Modifié 12 juill. 2019 à 19 h 2
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You say CGY is in trouble but they still retain $1.3 on Hamonic? That doesn't make sense.

Plus, they have plenty of money to sign all three of those guys.


Im overpaying with Dermott and Tymashov so they retain...guess why

Can you brake it down for me.....or let me start first

9,5M in the pot + 3,5M ( M. Stone on LTIR ) = 13M

Tkachuk 7 x 7,5M
Bennett 3 x 3M
Rittich 3 x 3,8M

Gives 14,3M, with Magniapane being ignored, i pushed them to 15M even with retention.

Thing is they are trying to dump Brodie, we stick to Hamonic.
12 juill. 2019 à 17 h 32
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I'd love to target Hamonic as UFA in the offseason, even more than bringing back Muzzin
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12 juill. 2019 à 18 h 42
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Modifié 12 juill. 2019 à 20 h 22
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While your explanation of the next couple years makes sense for this all to happen, I'm having a hard time trading Dermott.

No doubt you thought this through.. I..just have a hard time justifying trading Dermott.

Already mentioned other times about how Hjalmarsson has alot of mileage on him and staying away is best.


As i told you before, dont underestimate us Swedes, we go from tought to tougher after 30y.

Dont get me wrong, i like the kid. He will be decent middle Pair D. But with emerging of Sandin and Liljegren both filling into third Pair next year, the Team would have 24y on average in Offense and 26y, 23y, 20y, 21y defencemen, none of them being a "hitter" which i think is necessity. Again i may be biased after all those years between the pipes but i actually got a slight boner each time when some speedster was rushing towards me on the wing just to be shutdown to the ice by the guy infront of me that i could always rely on.....and after they brought Muzzin, i just cant have enough of the guy and his checking abilities....

As for Hjalmarsson, i take the guy over Ceci at any time of day, even at his 40s.
12 juill. 2019 à 19 h 6
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Im overpaying with Dermott and Tymashov so they retain...guess why

Can you brake it down for me.....or let me start first

9,5M in the pot + 3,5M ( M. Stone on LTIR ) = 13M

Tkachuk 7 x 7,5M
Bennett 3 x 3M
Rittich 3 x 3,8M

Gives 14,3M, with Magniapane being ignored

Thing is they are trying to dump Brodie, we stick to Hamonic.


I'm not saying that you're not overpaying by giving up Dermott (foolish move BTW), I'm saying that if the goal is to drop payroll, taking on a future RFA doesn't make sense. Also, have you gazed at Calgary's D depth chart? They're pretty flush with Dmen.

As for 7 x $7.5 for Tkachuk? Goooooood luck Calgary.
12 juill. 2019 à 22 h 4
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Modifié 12 juill. 2019 à 22 h 23
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I'd love to target Hamonic as UFA in the offseason, even more than bringing back Muzzin


It should be both of them, there will be 13M space for filling three D spots ( and thats with Marner at 10,6M and 84M Cap ) if we say Sandin & Liljegren are ready for 3rd Pair in Season 2020/2021. The problem is should advantage be taken with trade or reside to praying that he will actually hit free agency.
15 juill. 2019 à 9 h 59
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Quoting: Laudan
As i told you before, dont underestimate us Swedes, we go from tought to tougher after 30y.

Dont get me wrong, i like the kid. He will be decent middle Pair D. But with emerging of Sandin and Liljegren both filling into third Pair next year, the Team would have 24y on average in Offense and 26y, 23y, 20y, 21y defencemen, none of them being a "hitter" which i think is necessity. Again i may be biased after all those years between the pipes but i actually got a slight boner each time when some speedster was rushing towards me on the wing just to be shutdown to the ice by the guy infront of me that i could always rely on.....and after they brought Muzzin, i just cant have enough of the guy and his checking abilities....

As for Hjalmarsson, i take the guy over Ceci at any time of day, even at his 40s.


thats definitely weird bro
 
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