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19 juin 2019 à 8 h 41
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Yes he might. And Im not gonna be even angry on that. Be a Leaf at 9-10 per or make your beloved 11 somewhere else.. he isnt worth 11mil. What about Dobson, Bellows, 2019 1st and 2020 1st?
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19 juin 2019 à 8 h 42
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What about Dobson, Bellows, 2019 1st and 2020 1st?


Yo @SammyT_51, where is this buzz around Marner coming from?

It's like TML fans gave up on him lol
19 juin 2019 à 8 h 43
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Quoting: SammyT_51
Yes he might. And Im not gonna be even angry on that. Be a Leaf at 9-10 per or make your beloved 11 somewhere else.. he isnt worth 11mil. What about Dobson, Bellows, 2019 1st and 2020 1st?



I agree, Dobson would likely have to be included in this package for the deal to get down.
19 juin 2019 à 8 h 43
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Yo @SammyT_51, where is this buzz around Marner coming from?

It's like TML fans gave up on him lol


Kypreos said on the radio yesterday that marners camp will call torontos bluff and field offers from other teams
19 juin 2019 à 8 h 45
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Yo @SammyT_51, where is this buzz around Marner coming from?

It's like TML fans gave up on him lol


From insiders. Reportedly he isnt willing to sign bellow 10.5-11. Which is bs because he isnt worth it. It is that they see Matthews as comparison and not reasonable comparisons like Rantanen, Kane or others as comparables. They want Matthews money despite the fact that he is not even close to Matthews.
19 juin 2019 à 8 h 46
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Kypreos said on the radio yesterday that marners camp will call torontos bluff and field offers from other teams


wouldnt toronto call their bluff on offersheets with last contract offer on draft?
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I agree, Dobson would likely have to be included in this package for the deal to get down.


Yup and thats reasonable. Dobson is awesome Dman.
19 juin 2019 à 8 h 46
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wouldnt toronto call their bluff on offersheets with last contract offer on draft?


Yes my mistake
19 juin 2019 à 8 h 47
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It's just a negotiation tactic to get leverage. A lot of his agents clients hold out longer to get more money. Ferris probably sees that he's losing the leverage with the announcement of the cap possibly being lower and is doing whatever he can to get it back. Wouldn't put too much belief into it yet. Remember, he grew up a huge Leafs fan. If he leaves via offer sheet he'll be one of the most hated Leafs of all time. Can't see him wanting that
19 juin 2019 à 8 h 50
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Kypreos said on the radio yesterday that marners camp will call torontos bluff and field offers from other teams


The Leafs need to sit and wait. No one will be offering $11M or more and no one will be providing an offer sheet.

Once Point, Aho, Rantanen and Tkacuk sign he will have his comparable. He will be under $10M

Love the kid but the Leafs can't build a cup contender by over paying players.
19 juin 2019 à 8 h 55
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Yes he might. And Im not gonna be even angry on that. Be a Leaf at 9-10 per or make your beloved 11 somewhere else.. he isnt worth 11mil. What about Dobson, Bellows, 2019 1st and 2020 1st?


If im Marner, im thinking ive outscored Matthews the past few seasons, my point totals are skyrocketing from year to year and im playing on the 1st line. I think im the best player on the team and i want Matthews money, its as simple as that. Kane signed to 10.5 mill many years ago and i think im gonna be on Kanes level pretty soon and eclipse 100pts this upcoming season, no way im settling for less than 10. And if im taking 10, i want to go straight to UFA the first opportunity it comes
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19 juin 2019 à 8 h 56
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From insiders. Reportedly he isnt willing to sign bellow 10.5-11. Which is bs because he isnt worth it. It is that they see Matthews as comparison and not reasonable comparisons like Rantanen, Kane or others as comparables. They want Matthews money despite the fact that he is not even close to Matthews.


Quoting: Jeff_Fingers_Agnet04
Kypreos said on the radio yesterday that marners camp will call torontos bluff and field offers from other teams


Damn... A year ago, I really thought Marner would have been the easiest of the 3 to resign. This is going to get interesting... Especially with all these players recently getting massive/Ludacris deals and the cap expected to be around 82M or less lol
19 juin 2019 à 9 h 1
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If im Marner, im thinking ive outscored Matthews the past few seasons, my point totals are skyrocketing from year to year and im playing on the 1st line. I think im the best player on the team and i want Matthews money, its as simple as that. Kane signed to 10.5 mill many years ago and i think im gonna be on Kanes level pretty soon and eclipse 100pts this upcoming season, no way im settling for less than 10. And if im taking 10, i want to go straight to UFA the first opportunity it comes


Actually in ppg Matthews this past year was slightly below Marner while Marner was playing with Tavares and Matthews with combinations of Marleau, Kapanen, Johnsson and Ennis. Also many dont want to say that but goals > assists, center > winger. Matthews is also best 5v5 goal scorer in NHL since he came into the league.. and he missed significant time. There is difference between those two and its not 1mil difference. I would say 2mil difference given all the things. Marner at 10 should be maximum.
19 juin 2019 à 9 h 6
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Actually in ppg Matthews this past year was slightly below Marner while Marner was playing with Tavares and Matthews with combinations of Marleau, Kapanen, Johnsson and Ennis. Also many dont want to say that but goals > assists, center > winger. Matthews is also best 5v5 goal scorer in NHL since he came into the league.. and he missed significant time. There is difference between those two and its not 1mil difference. I would say 2mil difference given all the things. Marner at 10 should be maximum.


10mill for 6 years seems fair and he can still get his money when hes 28. Wonder if hes willing to go to the middle and take that
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19 juin 2019 à 9 h 7
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10mill for 6 years seems fair and he can still get his money when hes 28. Wonder if hes willing to go to the middle and take that


That is fair deal imo. I would do that and he should do that too!
19 juin 2019 à 9 h 9
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That is fair deal imo. I would do that and he should do that too!


he wont, hes gonna pull a nylander and his dad is gonna negotiate for him
19 juin 2019 à 9 h 9
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he wont, hes gonna pull a nylander and his dad is gonna negotiate for him


Nylander at least got fair deal. If that means Marner gets something starting with 9, go for it.
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Nylander at least got fair deal. If that means Marner gets something starting with 9, go for it.


im no leafs fan but if ell for u guys. imagine having a kid thinking hes worth more than kucherov
19 juin 2019 à 9 h 11
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If im Marner, im thinking ive outscored Matthews the past few seasons, my point totals are skyrocketing from year to year and im playing on the 1st line. I think im the best player on the team and i want Matthews money, its as simple as that. Kane signed to 10.5 mill many years ago and i think im gonna be on Kanes level pretty soon and eclipse 100pts this upcoming season, no way im settling for less than 10. And if im taking 10, i want to go straight to UFA the first opportunity it comes


Kane's $10.5M contract was his 3rd deal, after he had a Cup ring. Chicago hasn't won a damn thing since that contract came into force.
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19 juin 2019 à 9 h 12
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im no leafs fan but if ell for u guys. imagine having a kid thinking hes worth more than kucherov


Oof.. it is frustrating.. oh belowed Nylander at 6.9.. thats amazing contract right there. Marner is not worth more than Kucherov in any universe..
19 juin 2019 à 9 h 12
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im no leafs fan but if ell for u guys. imagine having a kid thinking hes worth more than kucherov


Kucherov is taxed in Tampa plus he took a pay cut to keep the team together. Hed make 12 anywhere else
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Kucherov is taxed in Tampa plus he took a pay cut to keep the team together. Hed make 12 anywhere else


true, but i think marner should b mature enough to make less than 10 mil. at the end of the day is 9.5 mil a year that much different than 11
19 juin 2019 à 10 h 7
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true, but i think marner should b mature enough to make less than 10 mil. at the end of the day is 9.5 mil a year that much different than 11


It depends what he values more. The other thing that doesn't get discussed is the Leafs are able to structure the contract different then other teams (similar to the way they did it for Tavares). It will be bonus-heavy, which will make it lockout protected and more difficult to buyout. Let's say he takes 6x10. 15 up front this year, min salary, then 10, 10, 10, 10, 5 signing bonuses. Not every team would be willing to do that and theoretically should give the Leafs an advantage.
19 juin 2019 à 11 h 22
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Quoting: Jeff_Fingers_Agnet04
Kypreos said on the radio yesterday that marners camp will call torontos bluff and field offers from other teams


Quoting: SammyT_51
From insiders. Reportedly he isnt willing to sign bellow 10.5-11. Which is bs because he isnt worth it. It is that they see Matthews as comparison and not reasonable comparisons like Rantanen, Kane or others as comparables. They want Matthews money despite the fact that he is not even close to Matthews.


"If you don't pay me, I'm not showing up to camp" - Bob on Marner

oh ****
19 juin 2019 à 11 h 31
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"If you don't pay me, I'm not showing up to camp" - Bob on Marner

oh ****


**** him if he does that. Goodbye felicia!
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