Quoting: bkt42bkt42
There is absolutely no reason to be 15 million under the cap, more if you put Ladd where he ultimately (likely) winds up on LTIR. Why are you being so stingy with the cap? Sorokin cant sign for that in his first contract. Yes, Barzal, Toews and Pulock have to be paid- but like you showed above that is 18 million and you are 26 million under the cap for the following season and that is without doing anything with Boychuk or Ladd. Plus, the cap will probably rise 2-3 million and a Komarov/Johnson buyout can also save you another 2-3. Absolutely no reason you can't add to this team more than simply offer-sheeting Marner, which I am personally against- especially if it means losing Lee, Lehner and Eberle and adding ONLY Marner. Ludicrous
About as ludicrous in suggesting that all five of Dobson, Aho, Ho-Sang, MDC and Wahlstrom will win spots in camp-------NOT GONNA HAPPEN (not to mention you have Fritz winning a spot too lol)
Quoting: bkt42bkt42
Also, Seattle is going to have zero interest in Ladd or Boychuk. They are WITHOUT A DOUBT taking one of our D-men that we can't protect: Pulock, Toews, Pelech, Mayfield or Aho (we can only protect three of them). My bet is on Mayfield because of the contract (I am assuming we protect Pulock, Toews and Pelech)
Ok, wow, I don't even know where to begin with your posts... but lets give it a shot....
In this scenario, the Isles don't walk away from Lee, Eberle and Lehner because we signed Marner, those guys walk because Lee and Lehner want too many years and Eberle likely wants too much of a raise. Yes, absolutely the Isles can add, but this is done with taking into account the salary increases that are needed next year for Barzal, Toews, Pulock and Sorokin (we'll get to him later), which is going to cost 18-23 million, depending on the Sorokin contract.
Also, something everyone needs to understand is that LTIR isn't a guarantee for Ladd, yes, it's incredibly likely for next season, but the Isles can't work under the assumption his contract will be LTIR'd for the remainder of it, so any moves, trades, etc have to be done taking his 5.5m CAP hit into account. Also, with LTIR it doesn't guarantee his CAP hit is available to the Islanders automatically. It only works in that if the Isles are at the CAP ceiling and need to add a player they can move his contract to LTIR and use that CAP hit to do so, meaning ONLY IN THIS CASE, can they spend up to 88.5m in CAP... moving Ladd to LTIR doesn't mean his salary doesn't count towards the CAP, it only allows the Isles to spend over the CAP if need be.
Next point - 4 of the 5 prospects are already speculated to make the team out of camp. I'll break it down for you..
dal Colle - Played well under Trotz and likely has a spot for next season on the 3rd line.
Aho - Should have made the team last year, but was a roster casualty.. he and Toews are part of the reason the Isles are looking to trade off Hickey and Leddy.
Dobson/Ho-sang - Lou has already said these two will be given every chance to make the team out of camp. Dobson has won the CHL championship two years in a row now and can't be sent to Bridgeport because of his age. Barring a disastrous camp he'll be on the team.
Wahlstrom - the ONLY one of the 5 who may start the year in Bridgeport, but could easily force his way onto the team with a strong camp.
So, not really so ludicrous when you actually look at the facts and what's been said already.
As for your last point, the idea with Ladd or Boychuk being moved in the expansion draft is similar to Grabhovski being moved to Vegas in their expansion draft. A trade would be make with SEA to steer them away from taking guys we want to keep but couldn't protect, much the way we dealt with Vegas to keep them picking Bailey (and others). At the time of the expansion draft Boychuk will have 1 year left and Ladd either 1 or 2 years left, both could be very attractive to SEA if they need the CAP hit, plus get picks and/or prospects along with them.