Golden Knights match, no way they let him slip away

Interesting trade proposals, I like it. Get rid of Anisimov though and grab Eakin or Haula from Vegas for a 1 year rental. Vegas won't let Gusev walk, just grab Dzingel or Ferland.

Going to be a tough summer for McCrimmon being left with that dirty cap situation. A lot of player movement must happen at least 3-4 trades just to have enough cap for Karlsson and Gusev

I also think this an interest specific trade pattern. I don't actually think VAN wants Bowen though. I get he's local, but they literally just drafter Q Hughes. They play the same position. It's outside the box. I like Horvat as a #2C.

No way Knights can pay Gusev over $4million, but neither should Chicago.

Lol. That's a hell no from Colorado. If Turcotte is there at 4, they're taking him.

Its not going to be easy for them to justify $4.2M on a guy who played 0 games in North America. Especially with their cap situation.
They will need to get some help on D, especially if Miller gone. Karlsson is another #1 priority. Once that done they will need to clear about $8M in cap space. Sign Gusev and now you need to clear $12M.
Wow, hard to do. VGK did fine without Gusev, so I don't know if they want to spend this much money on him.

Second issue is that Gusev is not your fast north-south guy and Vegas is not the best match for him. he might not even work out, so its huge risk. Because you are not just spending money on him, you are actually will have to let a good player go, in order to afford him.

The question is, does he want to be in COL. He is a college guy, so its always a risk. The dude can simply say, sorry I like Chicago, I'm from there, I'd love to play there. And now COL will go to the next one. Cozens, Duch, Zegras, Krebs, Coufield, and the truth is they all good players and any one of them can end up better than other. So #4 vs #12 is not a huge difference this year. Even Turcotte and the rest are no much in between them.

And you honestly say, you won't take 2020 1st and 2 prospect (equivalent to 2nd rounders each) for the difference? I'd say its BS. COL is ready to win now and Turcotte is 2 years away, so Perlini can step right in on 3rd line with 20 goal production.

CHI can afford it, maybe not 2 years, maybe 1. He will fit nicely with Anisimov and Kane. He can thread a needle with his passes.
He will do well on cycling team, like CHI. and probably be not so good on VGK.

Why pay all that money and give up a pick for only 1 or 2 years? Signing Gusev only works if its 3 years or more.

I see that I mismatched my lines accidentally, I meant to put AA and Kane and Gusev together. Just like in Panarin's days, they do play similar style, with Breadman having slightly better shot and Gusev better passing ability. I like what Gusev and AA did at the World Championship. Imagine adding Kane to that line. He is one of the best passers in the game, imaging him on cycling team. He is not such a good fit on VGK, unless they are completely revamping one of their lines to build around Gusev, but I don't think they can afford to be creative right now. Thea are in cap hell, the worse of all 31 teams.

I like Eakin and Haula, but AA still have those soft hands, with Gusevhe will do just fine. I just think he can easily stay with Hawks for next year while Turcotte gets ready. He strugled in CHI last year during the rebuilt, new coach, but found his game closer to the end of the year. I wouldn't trade for him to bring him in, but we already have him, he value is low now, so just keep him. Playing with Kane and Gusev he will raise his value and CHI might even trade him for 2nd rounder, or maybe keep him till the end of the contract. something like this.

It obviously does, but it also depends on what he will be able to tolerate/demand. Its not like VGK wanted to burn their ELC on Gusev without playing a single game for them, But those were his demands, or he would have signed in KHL. I think he wants to get to UFA category asap and he is 27 already. So Chicago can win him over, by bringing him on 2 year deal, if he likes it here he will re-sign for longer term.

Bowman did screw up when he traded Panarin to Columbus. That was like a slap in the face. It ruined Chicago's credibility. Panarin was very vocal about it with russian media, he is a straight shooter and he never hid his emotions and he was really upset CHI traded him. Why do you think Mikheyev didn't come to Chi and went to cap strapped TOR instead? CHI need to redeem. (I'm happy Kubalik came over, thanks to Kahun and Kampf).

Sure it's a risk, but if he comes out and says he likes Chicago, then he's telling the rest of the league that. You don't really hear many players doing that these days, do you? As for #4 vs. #12 not being all that different this year, yeah that tier is pretty deep, but why would they drop to #12 not knowing the guy they want will still be there? Especially for that package. You just said we are ready to win now, so why would we want the 2020 1st? As for Perlini, we don't need any more third line guys. We need a top-6 2C or a winger to step in and produce. That's not Perlini, who's sub-par with respect to CF% and who hasn't even eclipsed the 30 point mark in his career yet. So I'll say again, that's a hell no from the Avs.

Wow, seriously? why would you need a 2020 1st? because that can give you top forward or D at the TDL. Look at what happened last year.
Also Perlini played like 35 games or so on 2nd line in CHI scoring 17 goals. So he can be 2nd, in fact he will be better on 2nd offence than a 3rd. I was just being conservative.

Take a look at what Ottawa did with the first that they traded us, they kept the 2018 1st because it was a known quantity. A 2020 1st, while potentially decent value, is unknown. You have no idea what value you're getting. Might get you a UFA at the deadline, but we also have our own pick for that. Furthermore, after Kakko and Hughes, Byram and Turcotte are tier 2, with the other players you listed at tier 2.5 if not 3. So if I'm Joe, I'm taking the known value and holding onto pick #4.

That's great that you like Perlini, but again, he's not a need for the Avs. He's an average middle-six winger who gets offensive zone starts for the most part and generally can't control the puck. Just look at his stats. The Avs need a strong two-way centerman or an offense creating winger. Perlini solves neither of those needs.

So to sum it up, we're getting an arguably less promising draft prospect at #12, an unknown quantity in the 2020 1st (not saying it's not valuable), a lower tier prospect, and a defensive liability in Perlini for what could be a top-2 defenseman in Byram or a top 2C in Turcotte. So yeah, that's a no for me.

Its #10 not 12. and secondly you make it sound like there is such thing as too many 1st round drafts. 10th gets one of of Duch, Coufield, Krebs, Boldy all are good and similar to Turcotte value. The only reason I want him because he is local boy, that is all. #4 thru #10 is not huge difference this year, and def worth 2nd Wing and Mid 1st rounder in 2020. The agrument is if you really need that exlosive 1D than yes, Byram is your guy at 3, but 4-10 its all good, and either can be a bust, even Turcotte, he already had a serious injury at the age 17, so you know.

It's never a bad thing to have more than one first round draft pick, all I'm saying is that it's an unknown piece in terms of value. That and there's no guarantee the guy they want, and I assure you that there are one or two guys that they WANT, will be there at #10. The 2020 1st is a great add and it's probably more than enough in terms of value, but I think they take the known pick at #4 instead of dropping down to #10 and a mid-first pick in 2020. And I still don't think Perlini's a top 6 guy, but that's just me.

Blackhawks just interviewed 6 or 7 guys for their 3rd overall pick. That shows you how deep this draft is. But if this trade doesn't happen I think you will not be getting Turcotte anyways, as CHI takes him at 3.

They're doing their due diligence, as well they should. Top-5 picks don't happen every year for a team...unless of course, you're the Oilers. But I guarantee they'd rather be at 3 and have their choice than be at 10. Same is true for the Avs. As for not getting Turcotte, the Avs made it to the western conference finals this year. A top-5 pick is just the cherry on top. I'll be more than happy with Byram or Dach

Yes, they are doing a due diligence, and you know why, because they want to know if those players want to play for them or not. Last thing you want is to draft a player in top 10 and then lose him after 4 years of college to UFA. It happens sometimes. The reason this trade could work with COL, is simple fact that if COL rejects, CHI could make a trade their #10 with LAK#5 (and give all those goodies you were going to get to LAK). Now knowing that CHI is at #5, Turcotte can easily tell COL, don't bother picking me at #4, I have no intention playing for COL and you will have to pretty much draft Duch at #4, which is a way too high for him, the consensus he will go 8-10. So, that is exactly the reason why sometimes you see the draft and wonder, why didn't Team X got Player Y at #Z and that is exactly why, players also have a say and ignoring it is not smart. (not saying that this is what happening, but Turcotte is a CHI boy, grew up cheering for Toews and Kane and attended Cup parades, etc, its his dream to be a Blackhawk).

Feel like due diligence might be for a bit more than that... But yeah, there's always a danger of losing a player. You keep missing the main point I'm making though, being able to pick at #4 gives Colorado the ability to pick and choose between the player they want. If they feel the player they want will be available at #10, then yeah, your trade makes a lot of sense. My opinion is that it doesn't, but that's just me. Everything up until the draft is purely hypothetical, so yeah, a scenario like the one you're saying could happen. Avs are still going to get one hell of a player though and they're going to have their pick of the litter.

Normally, I'd wish your team good luck, but same division? Nah. Keep beating this dead horse if you want to though.