Hyman would fit well in Carolina (so would Kappy). If he’s on the block, I’m sure Canes would be interested.

I was wondering how long it would take for Carolina fans to come knocking. Hilarious.

Leafs would likely demand Pesce for both of them.

almost as hilarious as another Leaf projection paying Marner under 11 million just so they can come under the cap

Kuch gets paid $9.5 and got 128 points.

If Hyman is on the block, I'd start wondering about this management team....he's a top 6 forward on a very affordable contract. Also would create a hole we cannot fill internally and would end up paying someone too much money for the same job.

How is Moore a better version of Hyman? Hyman is 6'1" and 205 while Moore is 5'10" and 170 lbs. Hyman has been a terrific player for the Leafs and is one of the only guys who goes to the front of the net. Get rid of Kapanen and Brown they are both redundant. Hyman is a player that is needed in TO. They need more of him not less. Look at what happened against Boston and the Matthews line. Matthews scored or nothing happened because Kapanen and Johnsson either don't or can't get to the net for rebounds. Matthews needs a guy to creat havoc in front, it'll make it harder for goalies to make saves and someone needs to score on a rebound or two.

Hyman is an older, more expensive Trevor Moore. The only reason he gets any points is because he plays with Tavares and Marner.

Because look how awesome that defence played against a top team in Boston. Overrated.

Have you watched Moore play?

2 years older and coming off a career year where he was key in giving Tavares and Marner the space and time to do what they do. Stop reading James Tanner, the guy doesn't know hockey. He reads stats and is a fan boy. Anyone who thinks its 1) possible 2) smart 3) possible to move Marleau is delusional.

Moore has looked good on the bottom 6 but that doesn't mean anything. I like him and have him on the team but Hyman isn't going anywhere. We really could do well with a couple more Hymans.

Yes, he's a good player and will make the team but settle down on this non sense. Moore isn't an all star, he's literally done nothing to deserve all this praise.

Plays in tampa no state tax. He will make as much Marner would if Marner made 11.5 million

Marner also gets paid in USD. 9.5 mill USD=13 mill CAD.

Also, Kucherov is much better than Marner

I think you hit quote on the wrong thing.

As for the tax situation and all that non sense. Its a silly argument that the media has overblown. Here is the thing, how the money is paid is a huge part of what is and isn't taxed. Plus as has been mentioned, 41 games are on the road and that affects things. Plus bonuses and many others. On top of that, there are how many teams in tax free states? How many of them have the space to add all of the star players? Still don't see where this is going? Vegas has zero cap space, Tampa will have zero cap space. Dallas has very little and needs money for their own players. The no tax issue only makes sense if there are way more teams that offer that and they have space. There isn't and most of them are currently at or near the cap. So that whole argument is gone.

It just isnt real realistic. Most experts are calling for 11 and 10 minimum. Of course to a Leafs fan it makes 100% sense.... about as much as Ottawa taking all that payroll off your hands in that unrealistic trade lol

I assume you mean basic stats as Hyman has great underlying metrics. He will never live up to his xGF as the guy has stone hands but he plays with JT and Marner, Hyman doesn't have to score.


On the Marleau thing, if they an find a way to Orpik him without any consequences for a fair price, I think a Marleau trade would be considered smart. I know it is very unlikely but I felt like picking nits here.

Moore might be a FUTURE replacement for Hyman (think in the expansion year) but as of now, Hyman should be held onto very tightly.



I've been saying that for months now... Glad someone has caught on. Welcome to the delusional Leafs fan club. Your membership card and complementary therapy session will be arriving shortly



Experts aren't calling for 10-11 minimum, they are saying Marner is asking for that. Their source is literally Marner's agent lol. Sources from inside the Leafs are saying they refuse to go above 9.5aav.

The Orpik thing was pretty fishy I am not sure the League will allow it.

Hyman is a terrific player and he scored 20 goals so his hands are improving.

As for Marner saying he wants 10-11, that is technically not even true either, his camp has inferred they want to be in the ballpark. What that means is almost impossible to say for certain. My guess is he wants 10 at a minimum. And I think that is fair and from what MacKenzie has said, they are more concerned with term.

My guess is the Leafs want more term and Marner less and if he wants less I'd pay him less for that term and try to get him locked up for 6-8 years or less than 10 for 5.

Kucherov signed his contract before he got 128 points, how is this relevant?

Correct. He signed it after he had a 100pt season and 17pts in 17 play off games, which Marner did not. If he gets more than 10, the Leafs will be doing him a favor.

So Matthew's contract was doing him a favor then? Given your parameters above of course.

Matthews got 40 goals in his rookie year. Scored more goals through 212 GP than Ovechkin, McDavid, Crosby, etc.

Provocative thoughts in here.

1. I like the idea of replacing Hyman on the first line. I think he has enough value in a trade to not include those additional picks.
2. Zaitsev isn't so bad as to warrant us giving up so much to get him traded. Leafs have a distorted perception of his value. He's a regular on the Russian national team. Lou at NYI is one who valued Zaitsev high, for starters, and has cap space to take him.
3. Mikheyev will start before Marchment, especially on the third line. Consider Korshkov on the fourth line to add size.
4. Liljegren is not ready. Rosen, the new Finn, Sandin and others will probably jump in before, with Dermott playing on the right.