Quoting: coga16
Try harder In justifying your terrible trade with flawed logic and no incentive for the avs. The more you try the worst you make it
Also for the record, Avs beat writers have sources say Panarin is interested in the avs bc he can get big money there, bright future to win the cup, and the way the avs treat Russians.
So yeah I guess you are smarter than actually paid and professional hockey writers with real sources
I`ve never heard such a thing and I`ve looked a lot of different places. I`ve only heard NYR, LA, Florida as realistic spots.
Once again, I`m not trying hard to justify it. I`m trying to explain the incentive for the Avs. But you are somehow failing to see it. Pretty clear to me. Lets put it this way sweetie.
Colorado Avalanche Position: Young, cheap contracts. Elite core. Cap space. All in on win now mode.
Option 1: Phil Kessel - 4 years of elite offensive production. Stanley Cup experience. Cheap cap hit.
Nick Bjugstad - 2C/3C or top 6W, Massive, Elite Shot, 1st round pick.
Tristan Jarry- >700k cap hit, backup goalie with potential for more.
21OA- Deep draft gives plenty of options. I would go with Spencer Knight. Could also target some real good F/D here too if they want. They also have 16OA and could potentially trade back up if they wanted but I doubt that would happen and wouldn`t recommend it.
2019 3rd- Sweetener. Could use pick or use it to pick up something at trade deadline.
Option 2: 4OA- Draft Turcotte, Byram, Cozens, Dach, Podkolzin ETC...
None of these players play right away. None will match Kessels production next 3 years. Likely never. Will be difficult to establish themselves in an ultra talented top 6F and top 4D.
Zadorov- Physical, serviceable bottom 4D. Replaceable. Will be pushed for playing time by multiple up and coming Avs D prospects.
Obviously trading such a prized selection is rare. Obviously any team would love to have any of the players that will be available there. BUT, if you look at it realistically from the Avs perspective you would have to be pretty dumb not to see that it makes more sense for them to trade down and acquire an elite talent and some depth to push them over the top. They were 1 game away from the WCF. Pretty sure they are going to want to go all in.
Want me to go back and look at some recent top picks traded and their return? Since you clearly don`t follow the NHL very closely?
2017- 7OA and Tony DeAngelo for Derek Stepan and Antti Raanta.
2012- 8OA and Brandon Sutter for Jordan Staal and Brian Dumoulin.
2011-8OA and Jake Voracek for 3rd rounder (Nick Cousins) and Jeff Carter
2010-9OA 2011 and 2OA 2010 and 2nd Rounder for...Phil Kessel.
WOW! I could find others but those were just some off the top of my head, like the 99 Sedin draft trades. But wow, these trades make mine look pretty damn good for the Avs, eh? Maybe when you actually look at it from a team building perspective you can see that the team is looking to make a splash and push for the cup in the next few years. And anyone would be unbelievably dumb to try and argue that option 2 is superior to option 1 when considering that fact.
Once again, its not hard to justify the trade. Its difficult to try and explain something so simple to someone who has no idea what he`s talking about. You have provided NOTHING of a rebuttal to why option 2 is superior. You just say the trade is awful without any substance because you can`t make as good of an argument as I have.
The truth is the Avs are in a real good position either way. Its just evident that they would be better off making this deal, if the Pens agreed to give up so much that is.