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Créé par: TML_GM

Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto

Date de création initiale: 8 mai 2019

Publié: 8 mai 2019

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Concept is to target a couple of players that are on good deals with term that fill lineup voids.

Ritchie (1.5Mx2): Age 23, PWF, still developing, decent offense, takes a lot of bad penalties
Mayfeild (1.45Mx4): Age 26, big, shutdown, physical RHD, not much offense

Note on Mayfield, I don't know a lot about him so I am making some assumptions here based on what I have read. Apologies if I am undervaluing him NYI fans.

This comes at the expense of Johnsson and Kapanen, who the Leafs hate to lose but may be forced to move due to the Marner contract. Ritchie essentially slots in as an AJ replacement on the left (downgrade) and Mayfield becomes Reilly's new bigger, stronger, younger Hainsey.

Note - Marner's 10.5 is on a short term deal to reduce the number. Means he can cash in at a younger age. He'll be RFA, but with arb rights.

Of course Marleau could just do us a solid and agree to be moved and retire (or suddenly become allergic to hockey equipment and go on LTIR),

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Marner, Mitchell		4	10 500 000 $
Ho-Sang, Joshua		2	850 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Elliott, Brian		1	1 000 000 $

Transactions

TOR

Kesler, Ryan
Ritchie, Nick
Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (ANA)

Détails additionnels:

Assumes Kessler is on LTIR. While that takes care of the cap for Anaheim they still need to pay the balance of what his contract is insured for (say 20% if only 80% is insured) and the Leafs could pay that cost instead.

ANA

Johnsson, Andreas [Droits de RFA]
Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (TOR)
Choix de 7e ronde en 2020 (TOR)

Détails additionnels:

If Johnsson demands/is awarded something north of 3.25M.

TOR

Ho-Sang, Joshua [Droits de RFA]
Mayfield, Scott

NYI

Kapanen, Kasperi [Droits de RFA]
Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (TOR)
Choix de 7e ronde en 2020 (SJS)

TOR

Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (NYI)

EDM

Brown, Connor

Rachats de contrats

Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2019
2020
2021

FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	83 000 000 $	77 426 124 $	0 $	82 500 $	5 573 876 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Hyman, Zach 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 2	Tavares, John 11 000 000 $11 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 6	Marner, Mitchell 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ AD UFA - 6
Ritchie, Nick 1 498 925 $1 498 925 $ AG UFA - 2	Matthews, Auston 11 634 000 $11 634 000 $ C UFA - 5	Nylander, William 6 962 366 $6 962 366 $ AD UFA - 5
Marleau, Patrick 700 000 $700 000 $ AG, C UFA - 1	Kadri, Nazem 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 3	Bracco, Jeremy 842 500 $842 500 $ (82 500 $$82K) AD UFA - 1
Moore, Trevor 775 000 $775 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Gauthier, Frédérik 675 000 $675 000 $ C UFA - 1
		Ho-Sang, Joshua 850 000 $850 000 $ AD, C UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Rielly, Morgan 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG UFA - 3	Mayfield, Scott 1 450 000 $1 450 000 $ DD UFA - 4	Andersen, Frederik 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 2
Muzzin, Jake 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Zaitsev, Nikita 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 5
Dermott, Travis 863 333 $863 333 $ DG/DD UFA - 1		Elliott, Brian 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ G UFA - 1
	Rosén, Calle 750 000 $750 000 $ DG UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Borgman, Andreas 700 000 $700 000 $ DG UFA - 1		Kesler, Ryan 6 875 000 $6 875 000 $ C, AD NMC UFA - 3
Petan, Nicolas 775 000 $775 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 2		Horton, Nathan 5 300 000 $5 300 000 $ AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Matthews, A.		Tavares, J.
	Marner, M.		Rielly, M.

Avantage numérique 2
Ritchie, N.		Kadri, N.		Nylander, W.
	Bracco, J.		Rosén, C.

Infériorité numérique 1
	Marleau, P.	Hyman, Z.
	Zaitsev, N.	Muzzin, J.

Infériorité numérique 2
	Gauthier, F.	Moore, T.
	Dermott, T.

8 mai 2019 à 14 h 44

Bcarlo25

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Marner will be a UFA after this deal.

8 mai 2019 à 14 h 46

TorontoMapleLeafsFan69

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Only if Kesler goes on Ltir is the only way this works and he has to promise he will stay on it haha

8 mai 2019 à 14 h 48

RandyC

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I'd do this in a heartbeat as a Ducks fan, but it seems highly improbable; that probably isn't enough to dump Kesler's contract, and getting Johnsson back is too good to be true. If anything, it would be the other way around, with the Ducks taking on whatever cap they can (think Zaitsev packaged with a pick or two).

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8 mai 2019 à 14 h 52

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I don't think the Mayfield deal is unreasonable. It's one of the better trades I've seen on here involving the Isles and Leafs. I would like to see the 3rd potentially become a 2nd if JHS reaches a certain number of points though. He's a lottery ticket but I honestly think he is very skilled. Just hasn't gotten a fair shake here.

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8 mai 2019 à 14 h 58

OldNYIfan

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I don't like the Ritchie-Johnsson trade from Toronto's point of view. (I can tell because I love it from Anaheim's POV.) Johnsson is a better player already than Ritchie and has a higher upside. I don't see how the modest cap benefit is sufficient to overcome that gap.

8 mai 2019 à 15 h 12

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Quoting: Bcarlo25

Marner will be a UFA after this deal.

Whoops, thought I had set that to 3 years... lets just pretend that is a 3. Thanks.

8 mai 2019 à 15 h 14

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Quoting: SDSUFRATMAN

Only if Kesler goes on Ltir is the only way this works and he has to promise he will stay on it haha

Yes, the word is he plans to "retire" (which means stay on LTIR in this case), which is why I added him in. Leafs are just paying the insurance difference and any other associated costs for Anaheim.

8 mai 2019 à 15 h 15

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Quoting: TML_GM

Whoops, thought I had set that to 3 years... lets just pretend that is a 3. Thanks.

save a little money! for 3 years I think you can bump that down to 9. At most 9.616.

8 mai 2019 à 15 h 18

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

I'm not all that hot on it either, however when you consider that Ritchie is younger and plays a traditionally late blooming role as a PWF (think Wilson WSH, Ferlund CGY/CAR, Andersen CBJ), it isn't that horrible a gamble (especially with the 2nd included). I think his presence and physicality takes a lot of pressure off of Kadri to be the sole provider of that element on this team as well. Maybe even keeps him available in the first round next season.

In an ideal world, we would sign everyone and be happy. Unfortunately, the cap is a thing.

8 mai 2019 à 15 h 21

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Quoting: Bcarlo25

save a little money! for 3 years I think you can bump that down to 9. At most 9.616.

I always err on the high side on here with Marner, lest I receive a thousand posts saying "Marner will get more". If the shave about a million off it just means they likely carry 3 scratches instead of 2 or try and acquire a slight upgrade on 4C (perhaps an aging vet on a prove it/discount contract like Brassard, Spezza, Kruger).

8 mai 2019 à 15 h 25

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I'd be weary of acquiring Nick Ritchie. He might be the slowest skater in the league for someone his age. His hands are terrific and he's actually developed as a pretty good passer the last couple of years. But he'll be an absolutely anchor with the way Toronto attacks with speed. Also, Kesler isn't going anywhere. Even if his hip won't allow him to play he still has a full no-move clause and doesn't sound eager to waive it for any reason.

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8 mai 2019 à 15 h 28

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Quoting: joshelkin

Thanks, glad to see I'm not completely off-base on value from the other side.

JHS is certainly a lottery ticket, that's why I included him. With the right support he could still turn into something similar to Kap (at least with offensive production), even if the chances are slim. He's not likely to make the Isles and he won't clear waivers so he doesn't add that much value to the trade. I'd be willing to let the 4th become a 3rd if he hit 15 goals or 45 points. Though we don't have the 4th in 2020, so some other shenanigans would be required.

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8 mai 2019 à 15 h 33

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Quoting: RandyC

Well this only goes down if Kesler is "retiring" to LTIR, as is the rumor. He lives on the Leafs LTIR instead of the Ducks and they pickup the tab on any insurance related costs for the next 3 years. It is a minimal value add for the Ducks in this case.

I am interested if there is a package involving Zaitsev and Johnsson that could net the Leafs a similar return from the Ducks and potentially free-up that cap space for a Zaitsev upgrade. Something around Zaitsev + Johnsson for Manson + Ritchie as a base to get it started?

8 mai 2019 à 15 h 39

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Quoting: TML_GM

While I like Zaitsev and think he could be serviceable playing sheltered/ 3rd pairing minutes, his contract makes him a negative value asset at this point; Toronto will need to sweeten the deal by adding more to even get trade talks off the ground. In addition, Manson + Ritchie >> Johnsson, so it would take much more to add Zaitsev to that deal. Think Manson + Ritchie for Zaitsev, Kapanen and Sandin or Liljegren as a starting point.

8 mai 2019 à 15 h 40

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Quoting: TheJoeMan

Good to know on Ritchie. I've watched him play and he didn't seem that slow. But then again I am old enough to remember Jason Allison skating around in a Leafs jersey. I like his hands around the net, his board play, and of course his physicality (something the Leafs are completely lacking outside of Kadri). I think he puts up some points on the Leafs PP and helps Matthews play a little more physical when he knows he has some backup on his line (he played more to his size when Hyman was on his LW). Leafs happen to have some great skating coaches on their development team too... they got (or is it goat) Freddy Gauthier to be a mobile NHL option.

With regards to Kesler, if he's "retiring" to LTIR then it doesn't matter where his paycheck is coming from as long as he gets it (ask Horton or Clarkson). He can live in Anaheim and walk around the beach with a cane and still get paid.

8 mai 2019 à 15 h 46

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Quoting: RandyC

I figured as much. Sandin is definitely off the table. He was the steal of the last half of that draft. I would expect him to get a call up half way through the season next year and take Rosen's spot. Liljegren being a RHD (and being expansion draft exempt) holds more value for the Leafs as well, he's playing big minutes on their farm team's Calder Cup run this year too. I'd rather hold on to Zaitsev in this case and try and dump his contract via the expansion draft. He seems to pair well enough with Muzzin. Certainly a big improvement over his pairing with Gardiner. I'm still willing to pull the trigger on the original trade (assuming of course Johnsson contract is going to be over 3.25M and Marner's cap pushes him out.)

8 mai 2019 à 15 h 51

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Quoting: TML_GM

I figured as much. Sandin is definitely off the table. He was the steal of the last half of that draft. I would expect him to get a call up half way through the season next year and take Rosen's spot. Liljegren being a RHD (and being expansion draft exempt) holds more value for the Leafs as well, he's playing big minutes on their farm team's Calder Cup run this year as well. I'd rather hold on to Zaitsev in this case and try and dump his contract via the expansion draft. He seems to pair well enough with Muzzin. Certainly a big improvement over his pairing with Gardiner. I'm still willing to pull the trigger on the original trade (assuming of course Johsson contract is going to be over 3.25M and Marner's cap pushes him out.)

Rightly so with Sandin, I don't see Dubas deals him for anything other than a top-2 d-man. There's just no point of the Ducks taking on Zaitsev's contract without getting a solid piece in return (and even more if Manson is involved). I'd take your original deal as well, but it seems bizarre to me why Toronto would want to take on Kesler's deal, especially for so little. Even with him on LTIR, I could still see taking much more to move his contract.

8 mai 2019 à 15 h 56

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Quoting: RandyC

Money is meaningless to Toronto. Our hockey team bleeds money and is owned by the two biggest telecom companies in Canada. Both of which own TV networks that show their games and generate a ridiculous amount of advertising revenue . The small amout of Kesler's money they would have to pay is a drop in the ocean to Maple Leafs Sports and Entertainment. Since he is on LTIR, the cap hit disappears.

8 mai 2019 à 16 h 2

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Quoting: TML_GM

I'm quite aware of how the cap works and of Toronto's financial situation. It just makes very little sense why they would throw a bone to Anaheim when they can extract a better return. I could easily see it taking Anaheim's late first to move Kesler's contract in reality, not including getting Johnsson in return. In addition, I would think that Dubas and co would prefer to be dumping salary, not taking more on (LTIR or not).

8 mai 2019 à 16 h 2

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Doubt if the Leafs want to take the chance that at sometime Kelser is ready to play again so disastrous 6.8m contract can't be hidden. And as suggested above, Kesler doesn't waive.

8 mai 2019 à 16 h 23

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Quoting: RandyC

Personally I think you are overvaluing the inclusion of Kesler's contract. As long as the understanding is that he is on LTIR for the next 3 years and he won't return during that span, then throwing him on LTIR holds minimal value. I'm happy to remove him from the deal entirely. I just tossed it in as no-true-cost-to-Toronto incentive for Anaheim, given their less stable finances.

8 mai 2019 à 16 h 26

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Quoting: palhal

Doubt if the Leafs want to take the chance that at sometime Kelser is ready to play again so disastrous 6.8m contract can't be hidden. And as suggested above, Kesler doesn't waive.

I guess he really likes the Anaheim logo on his paychecks. Seems odd that he wouldn't waive if he is essentially retiring. Again, the deal is only made if the agreement is that Kesler is not returning to play. It is all just speculation until he actually makes a decision on his future anyway. I'm happy to exclude him from the trade. It was just added incentive for Anaheim, which doesn't seem to be needed.

8 mai 2019 à 16 h 56

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Quoting: TML_GM

Oof Jason Allison, now there was a slow forward yikes. Yeah Rich isn't that slow for sure!

And I agree about Kesler. But just judging on things he's said to the media it sounds like he would not be accommodating at all to moving even just his salary. His tone could change if it's decided he shouldn't play anymore but if I were a betting man I'd say put a squash on anything like that.

8 mai 2019 à 17 h 14

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Quoting: TML_GM

Well there can't be an agreement that he would stay retired. If at sometime he was deemed "fit to play", he's not going to stay retired and lose 6.8m a year. Unfortunately for the Leafs, there are lots of teams with little cap space, and other teams trying to dump cap.

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