MoJo and Ferland

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Créé par: ON3M4N

Équipe: 2019-20 Bruins de Boston

Date de création initiale: 5 mars 2019

Publié: 6 mars 2019

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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The Backes deal I think would need a little extra, but the foundation is there.

Heinen gets a 2yr lets see what you can do deal. He was having a down year until going to the 1st line. Let him get a few more years of playing with Bergy/Marchy and lets see what he's got. If he keep playing like he is, he'll get a good payday

Ferland I used Wilson as a comp

Mojo on a 1 year value build deal. With this lineup Boston should b e a serious player for the cup and Mojo could have a great year and earn a better pay day. Injuries are an issue for him and even right now he could be out for time.

McAvoy gets a AAV similar to guys like Trouba/Dumba. I went with 4 years because it leaves McAvoy 1 year shy of qualifying as a UFA. This also give McAvoy a chance to prove he can live up to the expectations. If he does, he gets his big 8yr deal when he's 25yr old.

Carlo is a similar situation to McAvoy. His deal would expire just before he's eligible for UFA status and at that point Boston would know what they have in him. He's starting to find his confidence in the offensive zone and if he can add some off he'll get his big deal when he's 25yr old as well.

Chara comes back on a 1yr $1 million deal with easily attainable bonuses that brings him to around $3.5-$4 million.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Heinen, Danton	2	2 000 000 $
McAvoy, Charlie	4	5 500 000 $
Carlo, Brandon	3	3 500 000 $
Forsbacka Karlsson, Jakob	3	1 500 000 $
Blidh, Anton	2	850 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Johansson, Marcus	1	3 750 000 $
Ferland, Micheal	6	5 000 000 $
Chara, Zdeno	1	1 000 000 $
Acciari, Noel	1	750 000 $

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BOS

Backes would not go right from BOS to MIN. After July 1st, BOS & MIN find a "middle man" to retain 50% of Backes contract. He'll only be owed $5 million total on 2yr of a $6 million cap hit. A team like ARZ might be interested. Cost some picks/prospects (nothing crazy)

MIN

Backes, David

BOS

Deal is Backs + Cehlarik for a 4th. ARZ would then flip Backes to MIN @ 50% retained and get another asset from them.

ARI

RFA Rights - Peter Cehlarik

BOS

Really anywhere for a 3rd or 4th

VAN

Miller, Kevan

Rachats de contrats

Dennis Seidenberg: 1 166 667 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Matt Beleskey: 1 900 000 $ (50%)

Enfoui

Jakob Forsbacka Karlsson: 425 000 $ (1 500 000 $)

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	83 000 000 $	80 221 667 $	0 $	470 000 $	2 778 333 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Marchand, Brad 6 125 000 $6 125 000 $ AG NMC UFA - 6	Bergeron, Patrice 6 875 000 $6 875 000 $ C NMC UFA - 3	Heinen, Danton 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2
DeBrusk, Jake 863 333 $863 333 $ (450 000 $$450K) AD, AG UFA - 1	Krejci, David 7 250 000 $7 250 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 2	Pastrnak, David 6 666 667 $6 666 667 $ AD UFA - 4
Ferland, Micheal 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 4	Coyle, Charlie 3 200 000 $3 200 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Johansson, Marcus 3 750 000 $3 750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2
Nordström, Joakim 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Kuraly, Sean 1 275 000 $1 275 000 $ C, AG UFA - 2	Wagner, Chris 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ AD, C UFA - 1
Blidh, Anton 850 000 $850 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2		Acciari, Noel 750 000 $750 000 $ C, AD UFA - 3

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Chara, Zdeno 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ DG UFA - 1	McAvoy, Charlie 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ DD UFA - 3	Rask, Tuukka 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 2
Grzelcyk, Matt 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Carlo, Brandon 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Halák, Jaroslav 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ G UFA - 1
Krug, Torey 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 1	Moore, John 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ DG UFA - 4
Clifton, Connor 725 000 $725 000 $ (20 000 $$20K) DD UFA - 1

6 mars 2019 à 13 h 25

TheCoontniac

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That 3rd line would be hell to play against.

6 mars 2019 à 13 h 29

ON3M4N

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Quoting: jslongo

That 3rd line would be hell to play against.

I've been watching some extra Canes games lately and its made me a Ferland fan. As a Bruins fan, that he laid last night was text book. I hate that our guy got hurt, but it was a clean text book hit.

6 mars 2019 à 13 h 33

Trickster

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Backes has 15 team no trade list.
100% Arizona is one of those teams

6 mars 2019 à 13 h 37

ON3M4N

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Quoting: Trickster

Backes has 15 team no trade list.
100% Arizona is one of those teams

He waives with the agreement being that he would immediately be flipped to Minny or another team he'd be ok with. He wouldn't actually play for ARZ or whoever is the middle man.

6 mars 2019 à 13 h 37

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Quoting: Trickster

Backes has 15 team no trade list.
100% Arizona is one of those teams

I think the bruins have had talks with backes about next year, and have let him know he won’t play for them. So it’s providence, or waive your no trade

6 mars 2019 à 13 h 38

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This is pretty solid. I like the contracts. Personally, I would leave Ferland alone. Leave room on the roster for Studnicka, and stay away from long term ufa commitments

6 mars 2019 à 13 h 42

Trickster

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I think McAvoy gets 6 plus million easy.

Trouba's contract was only 1 year and it was arbitration agreement.

I think Johansson gets more too.

6 mars 2019 à 13 h 45

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Quoting: ON3M4N

I've been watching some extra Canes games lately and its made me a Ferland fan. As a Bruins fan, that he laid last night was text book. I hate that our guy got hurt, but it was a clean text book hit.

LOL literally started yelling at my TV " NO NO NO NO"... I didnt catch the hit at first, and when I seen the state of Johansson, I thought it mightve been a headshot.

6 mars 2019 à 13 h 47

ON3M4N

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Quoting: Trickster

I think McAvoy gets 6 plus million easy.

Trouba's contract was only 1 year and it was arbitration agreement.

True but McAvoy's body of work is only 2 years and in that 2 years he's missed 49% of the possible games. I think $5.5 is more than fair and then after 4 years if he's the player many expect, you give him that 8yr / $8-$10 million deal. Although by then who knows, maybe an top end RHD would be $11 to $13 million.

6 mars 2019 à 13 h 48

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That Ferland contract is Matt Beleskey 2.0 waiting to happen

6 mars 2019 à 13 h 48

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Quoting: jslongo

LOL literally started yelling at my TV " NO NO NO NO"... I didnt catch the hit at first, and when I seen the state of Johansson, I thought it mightve been a headshot.

I saw it when it happened and right away I thought "Wow that was an amazing hit"

6 mars 2019 à 13 h 49

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If given a choice, McAvoy over dumba all day man.

Anything more than bridge deal, should be at least 6 plus.

6 mars 2019 à 13 h 51

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Quoting: PenGoater99

That Ferland contract is Matt Beleskey 2.0 waiting to happen

It could be, but Ferland is more skilled than Beleskey was.

6 mars 2019 à 13 h 52

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Quoting: Trickster

If given a choice, McAvoy over dumba all day man.

Anything more than bridge deal, should be at least 6 plus.

If Boston wanted to go 8yr right away, I think 8yr/$7 million is roughly what McAvoy is looking for.

6 mars 2019 à 13 h 58

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Providence? By definition NMC, means no demotion to the AHL or even waiving.

6 mars 2019 à 14 h 22

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Quoting: palhal

Providence? By definition NMC, means no demotion to the AHL or even waiving.

I'm not following you here.

6 mars 2019 à 14 h 32

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Quoting: ON3M4N

It could be, but Ferland is more skilled than Beleskey was.

Both are grinder type wingers with relatively small track records of scoring. It's a risky signing

6 mars 2019 à 14 h 45

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Quoting: PenGoater99

Both are grinder type wingers with relatively small track records of scoring. It's a risky signing

100% a risky signing. You could put more of Ferland's actually money owed towards the first 2-3 years. This way if or when he falls off, his contract is slightly easier to move because he becomes attractive to teams looking to reach the cap floor without paying as much actual money.

6 mars 2019 à 15 h 4

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Quoting: ON3M4N

I'm not following you here.

It's something BCarlo25 wrote,,,,threatening Backes with the AHL so he would waive his NTC...to virtually any team. I always thought trading long term bad cap hits so bad for the "receiving" team. Now you have told the players there isn't cap to get a good player in the future. Or RFAs get squeezed because the team has no money cause they have this anchor. Then player himself becomes almost an outcast to his teammates. I think we will see on the Leafs since the Leafs overpaid Nylander and Matthews. Bottom end players without negotiation leverage will be thinking, "I got squeezed financially because of these guys?"

ON3M4N a aimé ceci.

6 mars 2019 à 15 h 28

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Quoting: Bcarlo25

I think the bruins have had talks with backes about next year, and have let him know he won’t play for them. So it’s providence, or waive your no trade

I don't think Backes is dropping the gloves what seems like every other game if they have "talked" to him. He wouldn't care enough to if they told him he's gone and were going to dump him to the AHL.

6 mars 2019 à 15 h 29

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Quoting: ON3M4N

I think the real issue with this extension and is the only real concern is that you put yourself at a point where he can one and done and hit FA after.
I think if they give him a short bridge like deal, it's 2 years to prove it. That way he can't simply hit arbitration for 1 year and then hit the open market,

6 mars 2019 à 15 h 52

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Quoting: pharrow

I don't think Backes is dropping the gloves what seems like every other game if they have "talked" to him. He wouldn't care enough to if they told him he's gone and were going to dump him to the AHL.

Or he’s trying to make them keep him. Kind of makes all the sense in the world if he’s trying to do everything he can to prolong his career

6 mars 2019 à 16 h 8

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Quoting: Bcarlo25

Or he’s trying to make them keep him. Kind of makes all the sense in the world if he’s trying to do everything he can to prolong his career

yes but the assumption made is he's already gone. Like they "talked to him"
You don't talk to him unless your mind is already made up. At that point why go get CTE.

10 mars 2019 à 19 h 37

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The number of years per contract is good in this mock. I think it might be unrealistic to get those numbers with the optimal amount of years, but I'd be happy if it happened.

I don't think the Backes trade makes any sense at all. It's like blind optimism. I could see the Arizona part of the trade happening. They'd probably take Cehlarik for a 4th and wouldn't mind retaining 3M for something else, but Minnesota in not uncertain terms; would be friggen stupid as hell to trade anything of value even for 3M cap hit Backes at this point. He's not any bit good in a scoring role and 3M is far too much to spend on a 4th liner. That part of the trade totally falls apart for me because I think you'd still have to pay someone to take Backes even if he's retained at 50%. He simply isn't worth more than maybe half that.

29 juill. 2019 à 10 h 49

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Y u tell me Kreider wouldn't play with Bergy/Marchand cause thats where pasta plays but here you have Pasta on a different line.. questions I feel that may never be answered.....

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MoJo and Ferland

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