Laine should be in the second catagory.

Just because hes playing like s h I t right now doesn't mean hes gonna be traded. hes too valuable to the owners as well

Fair enough lol

You wont be able to make any trades with the scrap there. Just go for Staal or Hayes

I agree Nothing in trade bait has any value

I don't want a 23 year old in Appleton whos just breaking out. I want that 19 year old

Appleton, Stanley, spacek but I see what your saying. the trade for a player like stone would include like 3 of those players and a 1st

Finally someone with a little logic, it's so annoying when people even consider Laine being potentially traded..

The kid has 100 goals in about 200 games, he's not going anywhere anytime soon

People are giving him a hard time but he’s only 20

So... you're basically resigned to the fact that you'll lose this year to NSH, VGK, CGY, STL or SJ after they pick up one of either Dzingel, Panarin, Stone or Duchene.

Listen, I know Cheveldayoff loves his prospects, but he's going to have give something big in the future for something big now. Vesa wouldn't hurt because WPG is so deep on the wings for the next 8 years and beyond. I can see Roslo staying because he's a centre and could slot in nicely in that 2C spot next year. I can see you guys keeping the D prospects because of Myers and Trouba walking or leaving.

WPG needs to give to get...

I understand what your saying but would the sens prefer 1 A level prospect or 3-4 B level prospects and a first round pick in a deep draft

Oh please, no need for the sell job. Who you trying to convince? Carteman or Chevy? Lmao

Winnipeg is good enough to beat anyone in the west. Another team adding Stone won't instantaneously make them win. Vegas did it on the backs of a bunch of no names with nothing to lose.

I'm not saying they shouldn't try to get Stone, and the price is going to be high but I don't think its fair to say those teams will automatically beat WPG because they didnt' trade for one of your teams stars. Lol

Edit: What they really need to do is get Laine going more than anything else. Even more than adding one of Stone, Panarin, Dzingel, etc

The kid is 20, has 214 NHL games, 105 goals and he gets ragged on like he is Nail Yakupov.

I'm firmly in the don't trade for Stone camp, don't make any big costly additions at all.

I agree about getting Laine going is their most pressing need but I think thats what getting Stone is about, management thinks Stone will get Laine going. Not sure thats the best plan but I do think that's what Chevy is thinking.

Quality over Quantity. As much as I like DeMelo, Tierney and the bunch we got back for Karlsson, there are no guaranteed standouts and future stars. Nothing shouts AVERAGE like Ottawa's lineup without Stone, Duchene and Chabot keeping people in their seats. San Jose still kept their top prospects because Dorion put himself in a bind and left it to the last minute. I expect Dorion will settle for Petan, Spacek and a 1st with a ton of conditionals and everyone one in the forums will be laughing at us Sens fans because of it. It's the reality Melnyk and Dorion have put us in.

There are only so many winger positions available. Adding yet another winger only means less time for Laine. I know good players make good players better but I don't think what Laine is missing is what Stone provides.

So... trade for a Centre that can get him the puck? Or trade for a winger to replace him on the RW side to help get the top defenders off of him? Duchene and Stone fit those bills... give to get.

I like WPG and I want them to win. If any team should land one of, if not both, Stone and Duchene it's them. I just think the teams I've mentioned have a way better chance at going deeper because they have the right pieces in place for a longer run. I agree, they can beat any team in a playoff series, they're in a better position to land these guys given the age group they have.

Taking teams top defenders off of him would help. See above.

Ottawa is going to be very disappointed when they realize the returns they will get. This is why(I think) they went back to the table with Stone. Rentals will get a 1st rounder and some prospects, thats all. No team will give up top end talent for two months of service.

Considering that’s all you got for karlsson I think the jets could offer a lot less lol

"They had too"....but just like now with Duchene...They have to get a 1st rounder plus some prospects back to save face. All teams know this as well. It will be a reasonable trade, not a huge deal as its only a rental

Wouldn't they be covering the other stars on the team in Scheifele and Wheeler? Plus right now Laine isn't even seeing the other teams toughest opposition...... The Scheifele line is.

Ehh I don't think they automatically surpass WPG. WPG can still straight up beat them with or without. Adding a stud player certainly helps their odds but it won't be the straw that breaks the camels back. So there is no need to be "resigned to the fact that you'll lose this year to NSH, VGK, CGY, STL or SJ after they pick up one of either Dzingel, Panarin, Stone or Duchene."

Your also assuming those teams all land those players. What of Tampa, Boston, Washington and all the other teams trying to land some of those guys?

So... what is the issue with him? Not having Ehlers, not having playing time, or not having a centre that can get him the puck? Playing the teams third pairing would be nice on some nights. Offensive zone starts would be nice, too. Too much ForteNite? Who knows!?



I... still don't like their odds... I think another solid piece (Duchene or Stone) would actually put them over the top. Problem is Nashville is breathing down their neck and CGY's offense is no laughing matter either. Tampa Bay is set. Washington could use another piece but it'll be depth. Boston... I mean @Bcarlo25, what do they need? A lack of a Backes contract?

No one knows what it takes to fix Laine but if they did, they'd have done it already. At this point it could technically be anything.

I'll be frank, your not wrong with any assessment that involves a good team being better with the addition of a Stone or Duchene. I just think this : "So... you're basically resigned to the fact that you'll lose this year to NSH, VGK, CGY, STL or SJ after they pick up one of either Dzingel, Panarin, Stone or Duchene." sounds like a sell job. One that sounds like a car salesman pulling out all the stops to make the sale.

I'm taking your statement literal. Just because WPG doesn't add anyone of those guys doesn't mean they can't win. Of course adding any one of them would help but it isn't the end all be all to being a cup winner this year.