I don't think Ottawa trades Demelo without getting a solid RHD in return. Ceci is bad and the whole right side becomes a joke if hes gone. Id do Burakovsky and apick for Pageau tho

Not enough value for Ottawa in this trade, the 3C spot isn't an easy one to fill which should make Pageau a more valuable asset plus him with DeMelo should get a better return for Ottawa.

I've seen Sens fans estimate Pageau at a 2nd and a prospect. Maybe they were being pessimistic. Many teams seem happy to offer a 2nd and 3rd for Burakovsky. Burakovsky currently has twice Pageau's points/game, this season. Career, he has 0.56 more points/60 than Pageau. Either can play on a checking line or can be a complimentary offensive guy. Burakovsky is a few years younger, and RFA, so Ottawa is getting a better player for longer. I think you've got the pick going the wrong way.



I think Washington could add Jayson Megna instead of tough RHD prospect Tyler Lewington, there. Decent 3C prospect. Played a bit of 4C in Vancouver.

Nice to see DeMelo start to get some recognition around he league. He's been so good for Ottawa, such a surprise. Hands down, the best season from any of the sens, when factoring in expectations.

Anyways, the trade isn't that far off, but I don't think we're getting rid of Pageau or Demelo anytime soon. Our two best glue guys making much less than they should be. Eugene definitely values that.

The problem with building off of an Eli AGM is that Eli mistakenly thinks that Burakovsky has a lot of value.

For trades...
RFA Burakovsky has little value (maybe a 2nd), RFA Jaskin has near no value (6th, FCs), Lewington is a meh, a 60ish pick is a meh.

This package gets one of the two players from Ottawa, not both.

Yeah that was what I was thinking, might get one of Pageau or DeMelo but not both.

What about removing Pageau from the trade completely and dropping the pick from a 2nd to a 3rd or maybe putting some conditions on it? I think the total package as it stands would be too much for DeMelo, but it's too well known that the Caps are looking to trade Burakovsky so I understand where people are coming from on his value. Caps can afford to trade him with nothing in return and Ottawa can afford the cap space to absorb all the contracts. Thoughts on that? Recapping:

DeMelo for Burakovsky, Lewington, Jaskin, 2019 3rd round pick

I was building off other people's ideas, anyway. Your constant ad hominem posts will get you banned if you keep them up. And we'd all miss them so much.

Plenty of teams are taking Burakovsky at a 2nd and a 3rd.

Plenty of Sens fans are trading Pageau for a 2nd and a B prospect.

Lewington is a B prospect.

I didn't include Jaskin, but I'm fine with it, if Ottawa is after underpaid glue guys. Jaskin hits as much as Pageau at a third of the price. Has better corsi. Sounds like what they're talking about. Caps need centers so they can get Kuznetsov back to wing where he should score more goals.

Okay. So let me see if I have this straight: all of Ottawa's defensemen are Bobby Orr?

Yeah, I think DeMelo would be a good target for a lot of teams, but to your point (and others), entirely possible that he is off the market. I think something like this really hinges on the Caps valuation of Bowey internally and whether they want to trade prospects/picks or try to circumvent true rebuilding years starting around 2022.

Well, DeMelo has been very impressive this year, and coupled with his steal of a cap hit, I think his value is pretty high. I saw the whole Lajoie + Pageau fiasco, and that kinda shocked me. Maybe fans don't recognize that Lajoie has been awful this year. He'll get better, but his value is higher than his skill as a result of his age and inexperience. I'd never trade for him. I doubt DeMelo gets traded either. The only other D that I can think of that Washington could target are Kevan Miller and Radko Gudas. Both have impressive defensive and offensive numbers. They block shocks, kill penalties, play decent minutes, and put up a few points on the side. Each have low cap hits too. Not sure how available Miller is though.

Between the two, I'd say pass on Miller due to his possession metrics, but Gudas could be interesting, and if they can look past the division rivalry, could work out well for both teams if Philly could find a place for Burakovsky. He'd have to be part of the deal for salary cap purposes on the WSH side. I saw somebody else make a trade for Konecny as well, maybe there's something in there for him or another forward if the Caps can find a way to shed salary. Maybe another player-for-pick deal with a different team to help even things out.

I wonder if Edmonton would be interested in Bura. I know that we are, and playing with Pettersson and Boeser or McDavid and Draisaitl could rejuvenate his career. I'd rather Miller, but Boston is in the playoffs, so they're not exactly selling. Myers needs a roster spot on Philly, so Gudas will be expendable eventually. Plus they aren't competing. I bet you could get Hagg and Gudas if you send Djoos/Johansen and Bowey. Maybe add a bit on either side.

Yes that's what I'm saying, all of Ottawa's defensemen are Bobby Orr... ?

I bet you couldn't. Do you want to post it?

Hold on...nobody told me Bobby Orr was available. How many first round picks do we have again?

Will do! Gudas won't cost more than Bowey, and Hagg isn't worth more than Johansen and a late pick, so it shouldn't be that bad. A couple Philly fans might kill me for trading that pairing though.

What about Burakovsky for Biega & a 2019 2nd?

Hmm, I doubt we're trading picks. Would you do Half retained Granlund, Jasek, and a sixth instead?

No, I don't think so - I really think defensive depth is where the Caps need the most immediate help. We already have a couple guys that can fill the 3C/4C role and also somehow, Granlund's career FO% is worse than Kuznetsov, which I didn't think was possible.

Does Granlund play center or wing? I know he'd listed as both but what position does he actually play.

We could move Hutton too, what would you give for him? We could add a late pick or a penalty killer to get a better return too.

He took face-offs when Sutter and Beagle were out, but he's always played on the wing regardless. I've never seen him play center before, only taking face-offs.

I still just don't see a place for Granlund in WSH, personally, so I'd pass on him. Hutton is interesting...can play the minutes we are looking for, although we are less excited about a LHD than a RHD. Salary coming back is a non-issue since he is a rental, plus we like that he plays in all situations when necessary. I'm interested. I'll think of something and start a new trade roster to keep it fresh.

I think the value is pretty close, but DeMelo's value to Ottawa is far higher simply because he's the only top 4 RHD the Sens have and is their #2. Pageau is only expendable if they manage to keep Duchene, which is highly unlikely, so I also think they likely hang on.

But value wise, def close.