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Équipe: 2018-19 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 29 déc. 2018
Publié: 29 déc. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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This is what I think would be an ideal trade / fit with the Bruins. Please set aside the fact that Ottawa's owner is a dumbass and would ship him out west for half the return. Also disregard Krugs NTC as the team finds a way to get him to agree to the move. It's probably the chance to play a bigger role and in turn be worth more money when next season ends and he's an UFA.

Stone is probably the best fit as an addition out of anyone in the league who could be a rental imo as he's great defensively as well as his top level offense. He'd make the 1st line a true shutdown line.
Transactions
1.
BOS
  1. Stone, Mark
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
Stone would be a great addition. He could slot in on line 1 adding better defense than Pastrnak, which would allow Pasta to play with Krejci making the 2nd line much more formidable scoring wise.
OTT
  1. Cehlárik, Peter
  2. Krug, Torey
  3. Zboril, Jakub
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (BOS)
Détails additionnels:
Ottawa's 2nd PP unit would get better having Krug on it. Their transitions from defense to offense would also be quicker with Krug on the team. Ottawa would have the option of trading him at the deadline in a years time and theres usually a pretty big market for a PP QB. If Shattenkirk was worth a 1st + conditonal 2nd + B+ Prospect than Krug is worth more.

Cehlarik has some talent and is a scorer, but the Bruins really haven't given him much opportunity. If the team is just going to bury him in the minors all year I think he should be traded.

Zboril gets killed on here, but he's still a good prospect. Ottawa already has his Juniors defense partner (Chabot). There is no doubt they must have scouted Zboril as well and at the time he was the better defenseman. Maybe they make a good pair in the NHL in a year or 2 when Zboril gets his shot.

The 1st is probably near the end of the round, but Ottawa doesn't have one to begin with. They are either rebuilding or retooling whichever you prefer to call it, so collecting 1st round picks should be an essential part of what they're doing.
2.
BOS
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2019 (STL)
Détails additionnels:
2019 7th round pick that's conditional 6th if Acciari plays more than 20 games for STL in the 2018-2019 season. I think he'll be in the lineup atleast that much so I put it in as a 6th.
STL
  1. Acciari, Noel
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2020 (BOS)
Détails additionnels:
The forward with the most hits on STL could be shipped out of town (Schenn). He only has 58 hits in 31 games. IMO the Blues have too much finesse and not enough grit. Acciari averages 3 hits per game (93 hits in 31 games) so he would probably be a good addition if it's for very cheap.
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29 déc. 2018 à 9 h 39
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Pretty much a given that Sens are on Krug’s no trade list. Nice idea though.
29 déc. 2018 à 10 h 27
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Would love Stone, but I doubt OTT is going to trade him within the conference, let alone to a division rival.
29 déc. 2018 à 11 h 8
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the problem with a stone trade isn't expected value etc... it's that you are going to have to beat what ever someone else offers.

Using Shattenkirk as the example of a value for krug is weak at best. Washington got Fleeced on that deal and every Blues fan knows it. Much like the rest of the league knew it too. I wouldn't expect anything near that kind of return on him. Especially considering how much smaller he is.

It's gonna be a hard deal to get stone. No one is gonna want to give up a main piece for their push but they might be willing to give up a side piece or a good prospect.
On top of it you got one cheap ass owner in Ottawa who isn't gonna want to take on 5+ million in salary.

If he goes it's picks and prospects. They don't need 27-28 year old players on a rebuild. Especially ones that are gonna try to get out of there in a year.
29 déc. 2018 à 16 h 50
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Quoting: pharrow
the problem with a stone trade isn't expected value etc... it's that you are going to have to beat what ever someone else offers.

Using Shattenkirk as the example of a value for krug is weak at best. Washington got Fleeced on that deal and every Blues fan knows it. Much like the rest of the league knew it too. I wouldn't expect anything near that kind of return on him. Especially considering how much smaller he is.

It's gonna be a hard deal to get stone. No one is gonna want to give up a main piece for their push but they might be willing to give up a side piece or a good prospect.
On top of it you got one cheap ass owner in Ottawa who isn't gonna want to take on 5+ million in salary.

If he goes it's picks and prospects. They don't need 27-28 year old players on a rebuild. Especially ones that are gonna try to get out of there in a year.


Considering Krug's a lot better than Shattenkirk, he'd easily return atleast what Washington gave up. Shattenkirk was a dud because he played 18:30 and scored under .5ppg. Krug last season played over 20:00 and scored over double the rate of Shattenkirk in the 16-17 playoffs. The price he'd cost would be dictated by the market and PP QB's are almost never traded. There is almost always a strong playoff team with terrible PP numbers in need of a PP QB. That's the reason why Shattenkirk and Tomas Kaberle brought back such returns, because there usually isn't a top PP QB on the market, so when one is available as a rental someone bids more than whats logical because they see it as the missing piece. Krug was in the top 10 of defensemen scoring Points per game last year at .78 and he's in the top 10 this season at .81. He'll easily bring back a 1st ++ at next years deadline if the team was to trade him.
30 déc. 2018 à 2 h 48
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Considering Krug's a lot better than Shattenkirk, he'd easily return atleast what Washington gave up. Shattenkirk was a dud because he played 18:30 and scored under .5ppg. Krug last season played over 20:00 and scored over double the rate of Shattenkirk in the 16-17 playoffs. The price he'd cost would be dictated by the market and PP QB's are almost never traded. There is almost always a strong playoff team with terrible PP numbers in need of a PP QB. That's the reason why Shattenkirk and Tomas Kaberle brought back such returns, because there usually isn't a top PP QB on the market, so when one is available as a rental someone bids more than whats logical because they see it as the missing piece. Krug was in the top 10 of defensemen scoring Points per game last year at .78 and he's in the top 10 this season at .81. He'll easily bring back a 1st ++ at next years deadline if the team was to trade him.


I don't think Krug brings back that return. Even Shattenkirk was listed at 5'10 - 5'11. Meaning he was at least capable of playing in the defensive zone. Krug is just way to small to be of any help there. He's a player you have to hide on the ice. Ottawa has 6 defensemen 25 and under. In Krug you are talking about a rental as no UFA is sticking around that team. Rentals for non playoff teams don't get you ****. It's a bad return for Ottawa who can do much better.
31 déc. 2018 à 7 h 12
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Quoting: pharrow
the problem with a stone trade isn't expected value etc... it's that you are going to have to beat what ever someone else offers.

Using Shattenkirk as the example of a value for krug is weak at best. Washington got Fleeced on that deal and every Blues fan knows it. Much like the rest of the league knew it too. I wouldn't expect anything near that kind of return on him. Especially considering how much smaller he is.

It's gonna be a hard deal to get stone. No one is gonna want to give up a main piece for their push but they might be willing to give up a side piece or a good prospect.
On top of it you got one cheap ass owner in Ottawa who isn't gonna want to take on 5+ million in salary.

If he goes it's picks and prospects. They don't need 27-28 year old players on a rebuild. Especially ones that are gonna try to get out of there in a year.


But if your Ottawa and your rebuilding isn't this somewhat of a good move? You get an okay 1st + two decent prospects at best and krug who is definitely flippable before hes due for an extension. You might have to upgrade on Zboril/Celharik but OTT could definitely find a dance partner for Krug in the next year and a half.
31 déc. 2018 à 10 h 46
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Quoting: ngikas
But if your Ottawa and your rebuilding isn't this somewhat of a good move? You get an okay 1st + two decent prospects at best and krug who is definitely flippable before hes due for an extension. You might have to upgrade on Zboril/Celharik but OTT could definitely find a dance partner for Krug in the next year and a half.


It's not a question of if the return is ok. It's a question of can they do better. And they can definitely land a much better prospect for stone. They don't have to have the weight of the value of the trade in just another piece to flip later and have to deal with that head ache.
 
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