Quoting: Breakaway
You're not making any sense lol. Comparing McAvoy to Zboril is just plain stupid. McAvoy is an exception to the rule and he's a franchise defenseman. Most players like that can play at 18-19 years old which most prospects can't. For Defenseman it takes longer to learn the game. Screwing up in the offensive zone has little to no consequences for forwards, but if you do it in your zone as a defenseman it typically ends up in a goal against. Travis Sanheim, Haydn Fleury, Julius Honka and Anthony DeAngelo were drafted the year prior to Zboril in the first round. None of those defenseman have played 100 games, which they probably should have if they were supposed to be in the NHL at 21. The only 1st rounder from that draft who has played that much is Ekblad. Theres one other defenseman in the entirety of the draft who's played 100 games thus far and its a 2nd round pick named Brandon Montour. You really think there rest of the defensemen in the draft class won't amount to anything?
You must think prospects like Vladislav Kamenev, Ryan Donato suck too because they weren't playing at 21. Jake Guentzel didn't play his first NHL game until 11/21/2016 Considering his birthday is 10/6/1994 It'd mean he was 22 years old. But no that guy is **** and he sucks because he wasn't in the NHL at 21, so he's a bust and there was no hope for him at all. Lets just write everyone off who's not in the NHL at 21 because no-one ever makes it after that.... lol it's literally the stupidest opinion I've ever heard on here and theres dumb stuff said every single day. You are a complete fool are you're digging your hole even deeper every time you try to make sense of a point that's completely irrational. Plenty of prospects make it in the NHL who don't play until they are 22 or even later.
FIrst off I never compaired him to McAvoy. I used McAvoy as the example of defense men need more time as total rubbish.
you can tell by your comment you never played. If you screw up in the defensive zone as a forward it's just as painful as screwing up in the defensive zone as a defense man. There are many of highlights where it's very clear the defensive breakdown was on the forward and the defenseman and goalie is left hung out to dry.. Many of forwards have been benched and chased down to the AHL for not being responsible for their own end of the ice. 2 players don't do all the defensive work.
You keep going with this myth that it takes longer to learn how to play defense. They been playing those positions for years. Just like the forwards have. They learn their role just like any other player on the ice does in that time. It's not rocket science. You can find 16 year olds in the CHL who know exactly where to be on the ice. It's the aspect of actually doing it that is the hard part. You seem to have this unrealistic belief that wingers and centers don't have just as much defensive responsibility on the ice and that where defense men are suppose to be in the offensive zone is so much more complicated than a forward. I really hate to break it to you but it's not. If anything it's easier for defenseman to actually learn what they are suppose to do. Especially on the offensive end. Defense man don't have to cycle down low. If they choose to jump in on a play, it's the forward who is responsible for keeping his head in the game and covering for him. Defense man don't rotate in the defensive zone, they don't have to switch off on moving players and cover large areas in their line mates zone because of a switch or because they chased. If anything they slide over a few feet when the puck has moved over and their pairing has moved out chasing.
If you actually played at any point you would know this. No one is lacing up skates looking back at the defense man saying, it's ok, it's so much harder for you guys to learn. You hit the ice, you practice and everyone learns their part together. You can't have a system any other way. Where they are to be on the ice. How they should rotate. It's no more complex for the defense man than it is for the forward, if anything that's totally opposite. The difference is it's physically harder to play. It's more physical. You have to clear out the front of the net, You have to not chase which means being disciplined. You have to be able to keep an eye over your shoulder and keep your zone responsibility when the puck is on the opposite side of the ice and everyone has rotated over. These aren't things that are hard to "learn" they are just hard to actually do.
I've never played with a defense man at any level that didn't know when the fault was on them. That didn't know exactly what they did wrong the second it happens. But you're over here acting like it's some rocket science thing to learn how to play the position. Having played from youth league to the NCAA I have found that Center is the hardst position to actually "learn" how to play. Because generally speaking they have the most responsibility on the ice. It's why the best athletes on the ice tend to be centers, where slower players tend to be put on the blue line starting in youth hockey.