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Équipe: 2018-19 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 27 déc. 2018
Publié: 27 déc. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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The idea for this thread came when Joe Haggerty (CSNBoston) talked about how the Bruins haven't replaced what was lost when Lucic was traded. All day there were local Boston dummies calling in saying "hey we should trade for Lucic back" and I was like WTF that's terrible unless its Lucic @33% or more Retained vs Backes zero retention with nothing added because Lucic has an extra year on his deal. I didn't want to make that thread because I think it sucks more than this one.

I came up with this idea while hearing Haggerty talk about how the Bruins lack someone really big and physical who's got attitude and is super aggressive. I think Crouse could fill that hole kind of cheaply. He's arguably got more skill than Lucic had when he was in Boston putting up serious numbers by playing with Krejci.

Crouse has 7 points in 35 games so he should come relatively cheap (for a former 1st round pick.) Zboril is in a similar situation (former 1st round pick) although he only got to play in 2 games this season in the NHL. Both players have good upside left.

Crouse is playing mostly with Cousins and Archibald this season. If he was moved with Krejci in a year his numbers could skyrocket and if he doesn't work out there he'd still be good in Backes role as the big body to screen the goalie on the power play. Assuming Backes is moved it could be up to guys like Donato and Heinen to play that role, but I think Crouse would be the better option.

For Arizona they get a solid 4th liner back in the deal in Acciari who's also very physical (average of 3 hits per game) and a LHD with upside who's very physical who would complement OEL and Chychrun (higher skill guys) really well by bringing some hard hitting to the back end. Boston has 4 NHL LHD's and 2 Prospects ahead of Zboril, so he's an expendable asset for them.

I think this deal could help both teams out long term.

For the Teams PP: The LW = Man in front C = Bumper RW = Wall Guy D = rotating points. On the 2nd PP Krejci Takes the face off and then moves back to the point if the Bruins retain possession.

I know the Bruins have enough 4th liners, but this is a guy who could potentially grow into a top 9 player and brings a different dimension than most of the Bruins players / prospects.
Transactions
BOS
  1. Crouse, Lawson
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2020 (ARI)
Détails additionnels:
The Bruins get a tough aggressive player who has a little skill for his size.

They also get a 7th round pick in 2020.
ARI
  1. Acciari, Noel
  2. Zboril, Jakub
Détails additionnels:
Arizona gets a solid LHD prospect who would ideally slide in behind OEL and Chychrun in a year or 2.

They also get a 4th line energy guy who can pk.
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27 déc. 2018 à 9 h 54
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AZ easily declines this. I know boston fans want to believe Acciari is some good young player, he had that one year of 10 goals. But there are now 3 years worth of playing that says otherwise.
He ain't scored a goal in 30 games this year. Zboril is about to be 22 years old. His second season in the AHL. For a 1st round pick, you'd like to see him have made an impact by now. Come year two in the AHL you should be making your jump over if you are going to make it and be an impact player of any caliber. So this idea that AZ is gonna give up a 21 year old who is figuring out how to play at the NHL level is kind of weak. No way AZ makes that trade.
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The deal doesn't really do anything to improve the team. If Crouse wasn't such a high draft pick, you probably wouldn't even care about him.
27 déc. 2018 à 10 h 31
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AZ easily declines this. I know boston fans want to believe Acciari is some good young player, he had that one year of 10 goals. But there are now 3 years worth of playing that says otherwise.
He ain't scored a goal in 30 games this year. Zboril is about to be 22 years old. His second season in the AHL. For a 1st round pick, you'd like to see him have made an impact by now. Come year two in the AHL you should be making your jump over if you are going to make it and be an impact player of any caliber. So this idea that AZ is gonna give up a 21 year old who is figuring out how to play at the NHL level is kind of weak. No way AZ makes that trade.


Calm down Bruin hater. Nobody thinks Acciari is a good young player with trade value. He’s a solid 4th liner that hits people and is decent defensively. That’s it. The trade here is Zboril-Crouse. They are of equal value. Both disappointments. Crouse would not be in the NHL for most organizations right now and defenseman take longer to develop. It comes down to team needs/depth and personel preference. I don’t like either of them honestly.
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AZ easily declines this. I know boston fans want to believe Acciari is some good young player, he had that one year of 10 goals. But there are now 3 years worth of playing that says otherwise.
He ain't scored a goal in 30 games this year. Zboril is about to be 22 years old. His second season in the AHL. For a 1st round pick, you'd like to see him have made an impact by now. Come year two in the AHL you should be making your jump over if you are going to make it and be an impact player of any caliber. So this idea that AZ is gonna give up a 21 year old who is figuring out how to play at the NHL level is kind of weak. No way AZ makes that trade.


I get what you are saying, but the exact same thing could be said about Crouse? yes, he has been up for parts of three seasons, but he hasn't been producing. 8 goals in 118games and he'll be 22 before the draft. Acciari has 12 in 139. Nobody thinks Acciari is that good. He is a serviceable 4th line energy guy who can PK, like he said.

As for Zboril - I tend to agree he should be up by now (and he was), but the fact is the Bruins have a ton of depth at D. I think he has developed a little slower than they would have liked, but he would have been up on many teams. Lauzon is probably on more than 50% of other teams rosters too . Also - I mean Chara, Grzelyk, Moore and Krug have the left side pretty much locked up. He is much better served playing against top line in the AHL. No, I don't think he'll be a stud, but it's looking like neither will Crouse.

Crouse seems to get beat up a lot. Although I think the Bruins would Benefit from someone with a mean streak, they also need to be able to play.

Acciari is 27. Nobody thinks he is young. He is league minimum player that can play 10m a night and not kill you.
27 déc. 2018 à 10 h 47
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AZ easily declines this. I know boston fans want to believe Acciari is some good young player, he had that one year of 10 goals. But there are now 3 years worth of playing that says otherwise.
He ain't scored a goal in 30 games this year. Zboril is about to be 22 years old. His second season in the AHL. For a 1st round pick, you'd like to see him have made an impact by now. Come year two in the AHL you should be making your jump over if you are going to make it and be an impact player of any caliber. So this idea that AZ is gonna give up a 21 year old who is figuring out how to play at the NHL level is kind of weak. No way AZ makes that trade.


"Figuring out how to play in the NHL" - is that the best you got? Seems like he is struggling to be an NHL'er. Beauvillier is an example of someone figuring out how to play in the NHL, OR Timo Meier - a guy who clearly has it figured out.
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whats the point. what are you getting that you dont already have in wagner or kuraly or accari. you have 4th line guys you dont need more of them. I know I listened to every bruins homer yesterday tell hags they need lucic back and im sure they were all sitting in there food stained Tim Thomas jersey and eatin leftover turkey legs but they dont need him back.
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whats the point. what are you getting that you dont already have in wagner or kuraly or accari. you have 4th line guys you dont need more of them. I know I listened to every bruins homer yesterday tell hags they need lucic back and im sure they were all sitting in there food stained Tim Thomas jersey and eatin leftover turkey legs but they dont need him back.


The trade was really about the Niche of having Crouse be the man in front on the 2nd pp as I don't like Donato there that much or Marchand. We really don't have great options after Backes imo.

Yes, the callers were clueless and out of touch enough to be still wearing Tim Thomas jerseys and using the logic that winning fights is what wins games lol.
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AZ easily declines this. I know boston fans want to believe Acciari is some good young player, he had that one year of 10 goals. But there are now 3 years worth of playing that says otherwise.
He ain't scored a goal in 30 games this year. Zboril is about to be 22 years old. His second season in the AHL. For a 1st round pick, you'd like to see him have made an impact by now. Come year two in the AHL you should be making your jump over if you are going to make it and be an impact player of any caliber. So this idea that AZ is gonna give up a 21 year old who is figuring out how to play at the NHL level is kind of weak. No way AZ makes that trade.

I like how you're using the age difference as if it's a huge deal. You're like well he's 22 he's got no chance because he's old as hell, but hey this 21 year old guy is just a young prospect. The best part is that Zboril is actually also 21 right now and he's only about 4 months older than Crouse and they were drafted in the same year 2 picks apart. Shows your lack of knowledge of these players.
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whats the point. what are you getting that you dont already have in wagner or kuraly or accari. you have 4th line guys you dont need more of them. I know I listened to every bruins homer yesterday tell hags they need lucic back and im sure they were all sitting in there food stained Tim Thomas jersey and eatin leftover turkey legs but they dont need him back.


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The trade was really about the Niche of having Crouse be the man in front on the 2nd pp as I don't like Donato there that much or Marchand. We really don't have great options after Backes imo.

Yes, the callers were clueless and out of touch enough to be still wearing Tim Thomas jerseys and using the logic that winning fights is what wins games lol.


I guarantee you the bring back Lucic crowd all own every one of Don Cherry’s Rock ‘em Sock’em Hockey tapes on VHS. Don’t have a VHS player, just can’t bring themselves to get rid of them. Get worked up while watching WWE and still insist it is “real”. Really miss Roller Derby.
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Look at all the hate on here because someone called out a bogus trade and you try to justify it.
First, Zboril will be 22 in less than 2 months. Crouse won't be 22 till next season.
Second Crouse has 6 goals in 35 games this year. As much as people here keep trying to attack what he did the last two seasons, as I have stated, he is clearly figuring it out. Turning it around and starting to put up some decent numbers. Which is well more than I can say about Zboril. So stop hating on the guy.

It's a one sided trade where somehow you keep trying to justify fleecing a team. Calling it out as such isn't "hating" on the bruins. Being unable to look in the mirror with those blinders not willing to admit it is definitely full of hate though. Fact is the guy is providing secondary scoring from a bottom line and it has value. What you offered back frankly does not.
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Look at all the hate on here because someone called out a bogus trade and you try to justify it.
First, Zboril will be 22 in less than 2 months. Crouse won't be 22 till next season.
Second Crouse has 6 goals in 35 games this year. As much as people here keep trying to attack what he did the last two seasons, as I have stated, he is clearly figuring it out. Turning it around and starting to put up some decent numbers. Which is well more than I can say about Zboril. So stop hating on the guy.

It's a one sided trade where somehow you keep trying to justify fleecing a team. Calling it out as such isn't "hating" on the bruins. Being unable to look in the mirror with those blinders not willing to admit it is definitely full of hate though. Fact is the guy is providing secondary scoring from a bottom line and it has value. What you offered back frankly does not.


I like how you're sticking to your guns about the big age gap of 4 months as if it really matters. Crouse doesn't have a lot more value than Zboril, they are comparables. Only people with no knowledge of the players would argue that. The fact you're hyping a 4th liner type who's scored 7 points in 35 games this season as something much better than Zboril really shows you know nothing about Zboril because he's playing outside the NHL. Defenseman take longer to develop, but clearly you aren't aware of that. You must clearly think Lucas Johansen, Dante Fabbro, Jake Bean or Olli Juolevi are all complete trash if they aren't in the NHL next season lol. Stupid logic by a fool of a person who thinks the timetable on Forwards and Defensemen are equal lol.
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Sorry we got off topic since we all listen to the daily nonsense of the radio talking hockey when they have no clue what they're talking about. Hags was to polite to tell them all to shut up about the nonsense traded. If you wanna flip zaboril who we can say is a bust and been lapped by every AHL defenseman they own for a guy who is similar I get it . The point I think was that this team isn't tough and they need a banger and that we disagree with. Yeah they have alot of young players who are not physically but that's not boston that's the league.
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I like how you're sticking to your guns about the big age gap of 4 months as if it really matters. Crouse doesn't have a lot more value than Zboril, they are comparables. Only people with no knowledge of the players would argue that. The fact you're hyping a 4th liner type who's scored 7 points in 35 games this season as something much better than Zboril really shows you know nothing about Zboril because he's playing outside the NHL. Defenseman take longer to develop, but clearly you aren't aware of that. You must clearly think Lucas Johansen, Dante Fabbro, Jake Bean or Olli Juolevi are all complete trash if they aren't in the NHL next season lol. Stupid logic by a fool of a person who thinks the timetable on Forwards and Defensemen are equal lol.


I just don't know where you get this stuff at. As someone who played Defense, let me tell you. That crap is a total myth made of people who never laced up.
Let me just put that to end period. How many 18-19 year old defense men you need to see to figure that out. Go tell me McAvoy needed "longer to develop" It's like any other position on the ice. You either have it or you don't. Believe me when I was playing in the NCAA no one was sitting around saying, oh don't worry you guys take longer to develop. That's the biggest bunch of crap ever. Like any sport you learn your position. You are either good at it or you aren't. The only position that has any excuse for taking longer to develop is goalie. And that's because it's hard to find someone to coach it effectively on top of the actual biological factors like bone growing faster than muscle in their teen years. AKA they aren't flexible enough yet.

and by the way, I'd say a 4th liner dumping in 6-7 goals in 30 some game is a pretty nice asset to have. Especially when teams lack secondary scoring.
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I just don't know where you get this stuff at. As someone who played Defense, let me tell you. That crap is a total myth made of people who never laced up.
Let me just put that to end period. How many 18-19 year old defense men you need to see to figure that out. Go tell me McAvoy needed "longer to develop" It's like any other position on the ice. You either have it or you don't. Believe me when I was playing in the NCAA no one was sitting around saying, oh don't worry you guys take longer to develop. That's the biggest bunch of crap ever. Like any sport you learn your position. You are either good at it or you aren't. The only position that has any excuse for taking longer to develop is goalie. And that's because it's hard to find someone to coach it effectively on top of the actual biological factors like bone growing faster than muscle in their teen years. AKA they aren't flexible enough yet.

and by the way, I'd say a 4th liner dumping in 6-7 goals in 30 some game is a pretty nice asset to have. Especially when teams lack secondary scoring.


You're not making any sense lol. Comparing McAvoy to Zboril is just plain stupid. McAvoy is an exception to the rule and he's a franchise defenseman. Most players like that can play at 18-19 years old which most prospects can't. For Defenseman it takes longer to learn the game. Screwing up in the offensive zone has little to no consequences for forwards, but if you do it in your zone as a defenseman it typically ends up in a goal against. Travis Sanheim, Haydn Fleury, Julius Honka and Anthony DeAngelo were drafted the year prior to Zboril in the first round. None of those defenseman have played 100 games, which they probably should have if they were supposed to be in the NHL at 21. The only 1st rounder from that draft who has played that much is Ekblad. Theres one other defenseman in the entirety of the draft who's played 100 games thus far and its a 2nd round pick named Brandon Montour. You really think there rest of the defensemen in the draft class won't amount to anything?

You must think prospects like Vladislav Kamenev, Ryan Donato suck too because they weren't playing at 21. Jake Guentzel didn't play his first NHL game until 11/21/2016 Considering his birthday is 10/6/1994 It'd mean he was 22 years old. But no that guy is **** and he sucks because he wasn't in the NHL at 21, so he's a bust and there was no hope for him at all. Lets just write everyone off who's not in the NHL at 21 because no-one ever makes it after that.... lol it's literally the stupidest opinion I've ever heard on here and theres dumb stuff said every single day. You are a complete fool are you're digging your hole even deeper every time you try to make sense of a point that's completely irrational. Plenty of prospects make it in the NHL who don't play until they are 22 or even later.
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You're not making any sense lol. Comparing McAvoy to Zboril is just plain stupid. McAvoy is an exception to the rule and he's a franchise defenseman. Most players like that can play at 18-19 years old which most prospects can't. For Defenseman it takes longer to learn the game. Screwing up in the offensive zone has little to no consequences for forwards, but if you do it in your zone as a defenseman it typically ends up in a goal against. Travis Sanheim, Haydn Fleury, Julius Honka and Anthony DeAngelo were drafted the year prior to Zboril in the first round. None of those defenseman have played 100 games, which they probably should have if they were supposed to be in the NHL at 21. The only 1st rounder from that draft who has played that much is Ekblad. Theres one other defenseman in the entirety of the draft who's played 100 games thus far and its a 2nd round pick named Brandon Montour. You really think there rest of the defensemen in the draft class won't amount to anything?

You must think prospects like Vladislav Kamenev, Ryan Donato suck too because they weren't playing at 21. Jake Guentzel didn't play his first NHL game until 11/21/2016 Considering his birthday is 10/6/1994 It'd mean he was 22 years old. But no that guy is **** and he sucks because he wasn't in the NHL at 21, so he's a bust and there was no hope for him at all. Lets just write everyone off who's not in the NHL at 21 because no-one ever makes it after that.... lol it's literally the stupidest opinion I've ever heard on here and theres dumb stuff said every single day. You are a complete fool are you're digging your hole even deeper every time you try to make sense of a point that's completely irrational. Plenty of prospects make it in the NHL who don't play until they are 22 or even later.


FIrst off I never compaired him to McAvoy. I used McAvoy as the example of defense men need more time as total rubbish.
you can tell by your comment you never played. If you screw up in the defensive zone as a forward it's just as painful as screwing up in the defensive zone as a defense man. There are many of highlights where it's very clear the defensive breakdown was on the forward and the defenseman and goalie is left hung out to dry.. Many of forwards have been benched and chased down to the AHL for not being responsible for their own end of the ice. 2 players don't do all the defensive work.

You keep going with this myth that it takes longer to learn how to play defense. They been playing those positions for years. Just like the forwards have. They learn their role just like any other player on the ice does in that time. It's not rocket science. You can find 16 year olds in the CHL who know exactly where to be on the ice. It's the aspect of actually doing it that is the hard part. You seem to have this unrealistic belief that wingers and centers don't have just as much defensive responsibility on the ice and that where defense men are suppose to be in the offensive zone is so much more complicated than a forward. I really hate to break it to you but it's not. If anything it's easier for defenseman to actually learn what they are suppose to do. Especially on the offensive end. Defense man don't have to cycle down low. If they choose to jump in on a play, it's the forward who is responsible for keeping his head in the game and covering for him. Defense man don't rotate in the defensive zone, they don't have to switch off on moving players and cover large areas in their line mates zone because of a switch or because they chased. If anything they slide over a few feet when the puck has moved over and their pairing has moved out chasing.

If you actually played at any point you would know this. No one is lacing up skates looking back at the defense man saying, it's ok, it's so much harder for you guys to learn. You hit the ice, you practice and everyone learns their part together. You can't have a system any other way. Where they are to be on the ice. How they should rotate. It's no more complex for the defense man than it is for the forward, if anything that's totally opposite. The difference is it's physically harder to play. It's more physical. You have to clear out the front of the net, You have to not chase which means being disciplined. You have to be able to keep an eye over your shoulder and keep your zone responsibility when the puck is on the opposite side of the ice and everyone has rotated over. These aren't things that are hard to "learn" they are just hard to actually do.
I've never played with a defense man at any level that didn't know when the fault was on them. That didn't know exactly what they did wrong the second it happens. But you're over here acting like it's some rocket science thing to learn how to play the position. Having played from youth league to the NCAA I have found that Center is the hardst position to actually "learn" how to play. Because generally speaking they have the most responsibility on the ice. It's why the best athletes on the ice tend to be centers, where slower players tend to be put on the blue line starting in youth hockey.
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Quoting: ON3M4N
Forgot to rate for bringing anything HACKerty related. Seriously the guy is a joke of a writer and no real Bruins fan respects him.


I think he's okay, he just mostly writes for idiots which is why most of his stuff is fluff. I thought this particular point made sense when it was taken from "just get an agressive guy who will check everyone through the boards" to getting someone who may be able to do that but also serve a greater purpose of having skill on the PP as the guy who screens the goalie. Bottom line is Haggerty is right some of the time, but how it comes across is usually made easier to understand for people that know nothing about hockey and just go to the game to drink Bud Light and watch Fights. I don't have NHL Network, so this is what I'm left with for TV Coverage lol.
28 déc. 2018 à 19 h 15
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I think he's okay, he just mostly writes for idiots which is why most of his stuff is fluff. I thought this particular point made sense when it was taken from "just get an agressive guy who will check everyone through the boards" to getting someone who may be able to do that but also serve a greater purpose of having skill on the PP as the guy who screens the goalie. Bottom line is Haggerty is right some of the time, but how it comes across is usually made easier to understand for people that know nothing about hockey and just go to the game to drink Bud Light and watch Fights. I don't have NHL Network, so this is what I'm left with for TV Coverage lol.


HACKerty is just a click bait writer. He know he's insight is awful so he writes things that stir the pot in order to get himself clicks. If he isn't getting clicks, he doesn't have a job. HACKerty is a joke of a writer is known to block people on social media when they expose how bad he is.
29 déc. 2018 à 7 h 57
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HACKerty is just a click bait writer. He know he's insight is awful so he writes things that stir the pot in order to get himself clicks. If he isn't getting clicks, he doesn't have a job. HACKerty is a joke of a writer is known to block people on social media when they expose how bad he is.


I bet anyone would block people on social media if that happened. Social Media sucks imo.

Haggerty gets to go into the Bruins Dressing room and gets to talk to the guys, so in theory he should be more clued in than anyone. Most of his stuff just sucks and is written for idiots, but some of the stuff I feel can be twisted into something better. If I really liked Haggerty or valued him or thought the callers were on point; you would have seen a Lucic to Boston thread. I knew that was terrible so I tried to twist it into a player who could possibly find an important niche on the team. Crouse could play on the PP as the guy who screens the goalie. He'd probably be better at it than anyone on the team except maybe Backes, but It'd be close either way. If Crouse could only play on the 4th line and offer no special teams play, I would have scrapped the idea because it's a waste of time to deal with 4th liners whether it's a slight upgrade or not.
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I just don't know where you get this stuff at. As someone who played Defense, let me tell you. That crap is a total myth made of people who never laced up.
Let me just put that to end period. How many 18-19 year old defense men you need to see to figure that out. Go tell me McAvoy needed "longer to develop" It's like any other position on the ice. You either have it or you don't. Believe me when I was playing in the NCAA no one was sitting around saying, oh don't worry you guys take longer to develop. That's the biggest bunch of crap ever. Like any sport you learn your position. You are either good at it or you aren't. The only position that has any excuse for taking longer to develop is goalie. And that's because it's hard to find someone to coach it effectively on top of the actual biological factors like bone growing faster than muscle in their teen years. AKA they aren't flexible enough yet.

and by the way, I'd say a 4th liner dumping in 6-7 goals in 30 some game is a pretty nice asset to have. Especially when teams lack secondary scoring.


Hey @Pharrow here is the thread about you talking about how 21 year old defensemen not in the NHL have no value lol. I like how you reference your "own career" and how they aren't flexible enough yet lol. Stupid ass concepts and People who are 22 and not in the NHL yet still have value bro. Happy Day to you!
16 avr. 2019 à 18 h 40
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Hey @Pharrow here is the thread about you talking about how 21 year old defensemen not in the NHL have no value lol. I like how you reference your "own career" and how they aren't flexible enough yet lol. Stupid ass concepts and People who are 22 and not in the NHL yet still have value bro. Happy Day to you!


yeah and all of that is true. No one is telling 18 -19 year old defense man they have excuses for not performing just like they aren't telling 22 year old defense, it's fine you're developing. I'm sorry you don't get that. The same expectation is on them as on any forward.

You are either going to make the jump or you aren't. It's pretty simple. Don't think you are going to sit in the AHL till you are 24 and then come out and be a top line defender. You won't People playing in the AHL till they are 24 years old are fringe players. Get over it.
 
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