No way Edmonton gives up 3 of their top5 prospects for that. Maybe Kassian & 2019 2nd for Burakovsky

Maybe kassian? Haha maybe dsp for kassian and a 2nd? Bura value is higher than that

Jp = bura
Luca jo = bear
Gersich = yam

Caps are also giving up high end players you just aren’t familiar with them obviously

Gersich scored 29 points in a full junior season playing College hockey. That’s not really impressing anyone, there’s a half a dozen Seniors putting up double those numbers. Why would we trade a top 50 prospect for that? The rest is fine to me, in fact I think LJ is a tad better than Bear but I’d rather develop Yama rather then grabbing an average college draftee.

I mean yam looks average at best also you can’t really praise one and critique the other. Not that you praised him but yeah

I would do Puljujarvi straight up for Burakovsky as both need a change of scenery and I do think it could work as both fit team necessities.

Bura and Luca jo for jp and bear?

Yama has the accolades that give him a higher value, while he hasn’t proven himself he definitely has value almost like Johansen. Gersich does not have any not only doesn’t have the accolades but also doesn’t have anything that wows me. Along with that I’d probably do the two for two.

No way in hell should Caps be trading Samsonov for Thomas.

Based off his stellar ahl numbers? Based off the small preview he looks more like a bust than a replacement

It's how many games into the season? Learning the NA game has to allow for some struggles. Way to early to call him a bust.

College is low-scoring, with fewer games, and fewer ppg. Gersich is really fast, by NHL standards.

Caps have three years of elc to see what they have in Samsonov, a top five prospect at goalie. That's what the Blues have in Thomas, but at forward. Same difference.

I'd swap Stephenson and Wilson into the top six above on the theory that maybe JP's Swedish is better than his English.

Then waive Bear, and Yam.

Neither defenseman is close to NHL ready. Bear has just shown it more clearly.



Really? Accolades? Is that, like, trophies, and stuff?

https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2018/07/05/tj-oshie-and-shane-gersich-expected-to-share-their-day-with-the-stanley-cup-in-north-dakota/

This. On paper, this. But how's JP's Swedish?

why on earth would you ever trade Samsonov.

Bc Thomas is a stud and the caps have Holtby? Also Samsonov at the ahl level has a gaa Of 3.5.

Oh yeah..... the other ahl goalie won player on the week.... so yeah Samsonov literals is the 4th bestvgoalie n the caps system

Samsonov as it stands isn’t better than the starter in Hershey and why should we over look him?

Vanecek, Copley, and Samsonov all made THN's list of the fifty best goalie prospects, the last time I read it, when Matt Murray was on it, just behind Samsonov.

If the Caps can use Thomas, they can trade Samsonov for him and still have two of the top 50 goalie prospects. Vanecek has ? in NA two years, so he should look more comfortable than Samsonov. Samsonov should look a little better once he's played 20 games on an 80 foot rink. Comfort with English speaking defensemen might take longer.

Nobody said to overlook Vanecek. He's a 3rd round pick, which is pretty high for a goalie. He's been coached and developed by Kolzig, just like Holtby and Grubauer were.

If the Blues are thinking full rebuild, a top goalie prospect a couple years away might be more valuable than a top forward prospect almost ready. If the Caps want to repeat, they're playing Holtby, so obviously Thomas fits better right away.

This painful. He dominated the KHL for years before coming over. He's looked strong in Hershey and he's still adjusting to NA ice, obviously he's going to struggle early on. He only has 4 GP so have some patience. He will develop into an elite NHL goalie.

Thomas imo would help the caps more. Look at his stats

Kuzy - Backstrom - Eller is a very good C core. It's easier to hit on a solid future top 6 C than find an elite goalie in the draft. Samsonov is one year away from being NHL ready. Maybe if Holtby was under contract for 4/5 more years I'd like this trade but the caps are going to be limited with cap when it comes time to re-sign Holtby and having Samsonov ready to take over will help that caps much more than a logjam at C.

Yes. Samsonov might be the most valuable prospect in hockey right now. Certainly a future starting goalie.

Thomas is not far behind. 2ppg regular season. 1.5ppg playoffs in junior. Still junior eligible. https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/hockey/news/blues-robert-thomas-three-tryout-games-left/

I think it's better to find guys who improve under playoff pressure, but staying at 1.5ppg sounds decent. But only one assist in 6 NHL games says not to rush him.

The proposal is to jumpstart the Caps' forward prospect pool while they have plenty of depth at goalie.... Or do they? Three goalies left under contract? They have fifty contracts. Need to include one they don't want, and get back a depth goalie who could step in and play 20 NHL games if Holtby gets hurt. That's what Samsonov represents by January. By next year, he could be a starter.

But Thomas by next year could be a top six forward with three years left on his ELC, and Copley and Vanecek could be 1a/1b in three years, in net.


You're trading a 22nd draft pick born in 97 with three left on ELC for a 20th pick, born in 99, with essentially four years left on his ELC. It's not about absolute value, but about whether either is necessary under the 3yr limit of Ovechkin's current contract. If Samsonov isn't expected to get great until four years out, they can afford to trade him for someone who helps sooner, and take a couple longshot goalies next year.

I'm starting to believe Copley can play, so that gives them flexibility.

lmao you think we should trade him because 4 AHL games? The KHL is a much harder league than the AHL and he tore that apart for 73 games. Samsonov will be a top 3 goalie in the NHL, Thomas might be a top 30 center. I like Thomas a lot but I'm not trading an elite future goalie for him. I'd do Holtby for Thomas+1st.

What if backstrom wants 11 million?

I really don't think he will. My guess would be 8-10M. I also selfishly hope he takes a paycut to stay with the Caps but that is just unrealistic.