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Hey Florida...Want Trouba??

Créé par: Jetman
Équipe: 2018-19 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 23 juill. 2018
Publié: 23 juill. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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WPG
  1. Pysyk, Mark
  2. Trocheck, Vincent
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (FLA)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (FLA)
FLA
  1. Perreault, Mathieu
  2. Trouba, Jacob
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (WPG)
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1979 500 000 $65 319 166 $0 $3 895 000 $14 180 834 $
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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UFA - 1
6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
C
UFA - 6
5 600 000 $5 600 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 1
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 7
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 4
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
C, AD, AG
UFA - 1
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
5 291 667 $5 291 667 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 6
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
C, AD
UFA - 2
2 916 667 $2 916 667 $
C
UFA - 3
1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
775 000 $775 000 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
DG/DD
UFA - 2
7 600 000 $7 600 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
6 166 667 $6 166 667 $
G
UFA - 6
4 333 333 $4 333 333 $
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UFA - 2
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
650 000 $650 000 $
G
UFA - 1
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
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UFA - 1
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23 juill. 2018 à 16 h 13
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I wish Florida would say yes to that......Trocheck by himself would be great!!!!
23 juill. 2018 à 16 h 21
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why don't the jets just pay him 7 mill and call it a day?
23 juill. 2018 à 16 h 46
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WPG would be improved with this deal. But I'm not sure Florida improves. Trocheck is a monster.
23 juill. 2018 à 16 h 50
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Quoting: capsin9
why don't the jets just pay him 7 mill and call it a day?


Because they are cheap. they could have had him locked up long term 2 years ago for $5 mil per. They had all the cap space in the world then but wouldn't do it. Now they are screwed cap wise even with all those team friendly deals.
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23 juill. 2018 à 16 h 53
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why don't the jets just pay him 7 mill and call it a day?


The 7 Mill was all about the salary arbitration. Its the fact that he doesn't want to stay in WPG.
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23 juill. 2018 à 16 h 54
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I wish Florida would say yes to that......Trocheck by himself would be great!!!!


If they got Trouba, Then they don't need Pysyk...Thats why I added Perreault
23 juill. 2018 à 16 h 55
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Because they are cheap. they could have had him locked up long term 2 years ago for $5 mil per. They had all the cap space in the world then but wouldn't do it. Now they are screwed cap wise even with all those team friendly deals.


Trouba was never offered 5M per. They never even got to the negotiating table from the sounds of it and it's more likely Trouba wants to play south of the border.
23 juill. 2018 à 16 h 58
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Trouba was never offered 5M per. They never even got to the negotiating table from the sounds of it and it's more likely Trouba wants to play south of the border.


I understand that but if they had of offered him $5 mil per the first time he went to arbitration, a 22 year old kid isn't going to turn that down.
23 juill. 2018 à 16 h 59
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I understand that but if they had of offered him $5 mil per the first time he went to arbitration, a 22 year old kid isn't going to turn that down.


I think he was wanting 6 at that time. He wasn't worth it then...
23 juill. 2018 à 17 h 5
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You would need to add a whole more to get just Trocheck if he was available which he isn’t. That being said Panthers don’t need Trouba
23 juill. 2018 à 18 h 48
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Don’t think Florida says yes to this. Trochek is a 60 point center and very good defensively. Plus they already have Ekblad and Pysk on the right side so why give up one of the leagues best 2C.
23 juill. 2018 à 18 h 49
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I really don't think Florida "wants" Trouba. Seems like there is a lot of panic involved with Trouba just because he going to a UFA in two years. Lots of players are going to UFAs in two years, what's the big fuss.
23 juill. 2018 à 19 h 32
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Quoting: capsin9
why don't the jets just pay him 7 mill and call it a day?


Maybe because the $7 million he wants is on a short term deal, He wants $8 million on a long term deal that's why.
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24 juill. 2018 à 14 h 56
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
I understand that but if they had of offered him $5 mil per the first time he went to arbitration, a 22 year old kid isn't going to turn that down.


this kid did! He's thinking he can make it up by becoming a UFA at 26 years old.
24 juill. 2018 à 15 h 27
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this kid did! He's thinking he can make it up by becoming a UFA at 26 years old.


Here is the math until he turns 33. At 33, unless he is a super stud he will likely see a decline in his pay. In scenario 2, he becomes a UFA at 30 and likely signs another 5-7 year deal at a high rate, say $8 mil per, which in the long run would have paid him more total money over his career.

$6 mil (last 2 year deal) + $5.5 (this deal) + $6 ( next years 1 year deal) + $49 mil (UFA contract @ 7x $7, can't see him getting more than this) = $66.5 mil until age 33
$40 mil ($5 mil x 8 years) + $24 mil ($8 x 3 years, will likely be longer term) = $64 mil until age 33...this is a negligible difference in pay.
24 juill. 2018 à 16 h 24
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Here is the math until he turns 33. At 33, unless he is a super stud he will likely see a decline in his pay. In scenario 2, he becomes a UFA at 30 and likely signs another 5-7 year deal at a high rate, say $8 mil per, which in the long run would have paid him more total money over his career.

$6 mil (last 2 year deal) + $5.5 (this deal) + $6 ( next years 1 year deal) + $49 mil (UFA contract @ 7x $7, can't see him getting more than this) = $66.5 mil until age 33
$40 mil ($5 mil x 8 years) + $24 mil ($8 x 3 years, will likely be longer term) = $64 mil until age 33...this is a negligible difference in pay.

So I like what you've done but the likelyhood of an 8 year deal initially wouldn't have been there. Maybe more like the Morgan Reilly at 6 or 7 years. That's 1-2 more prime years of pay added on which probably adds another 2.5-5M but depends on how fast he curtails off. The other thing is the negligible part you've alluded to and if accurate, then not only is it NOT going to cost him money in the long run it'll also have the added benefit of him playing where he wants to by reaching UFA faster. Also doesn't take into account if he signs the UFA deal in say TB or FLA as rumored prefered destinations the tax implications for that contract are 20%. I added a rating to this post not for the OP but for your work in those #'s !!!
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