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Karlsson through the Brassard loophole

Créé par: Eli
Équipe: 2017-18 Lightning de Tampa Bay
Date de création initiale: 24 févr. 2018
Publié: 24 févr. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Or, "brasshole," if you will.
Transactions
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VGK
  1. Callahan, Ryan
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (TBL)
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OTT
  1. Condra, Erik
  2. Katchouk, Boris
  3. Raddysh, Taylor
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (TBL)
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2018 (TBL)
  6. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (TBL)
3.
TBL
    Just anticipating objections.
    OTT
    1. Dotchin, Jake
    2. Koekkoek, Slater
    Détails additionnels:
    Tampa really could care less.
    4.
    TBL
    1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2020 (VGK)
    VGK
    1. Ryan, Bobby (3 555 000 $ retained)
    2. Strålman, Anton
    3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (TBL)
    Détails additionnels:
    Vegas could use a third right handed defenseman, but has at least ten forwards who are better than Bobby Ryan right now and don't have that awful contract.
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2275 000 000 $73 985 000 $0 $2 107 500 $1 015 000 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 5
    8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
    AG, C
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    4 766 667 $4 766 667 $
    AD
    UFA - 2
    4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
    AD, AG
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    AD, C, AG
    UFA - 7
    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 000 000 $$1M)
    AD, AG
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    1 937 500 $1 937 500 $
    AG, AD, C
    UFA - 1
    3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
    874 167 $874 167 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    UFA - 2
    686 667 $686 667 $ (Bonis de performance257 500 $$258K)
    C, AD
    UFA - 2
    650 000 $650 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 2
    812 500 $812 500 $
    C, AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    650 000 $650 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 8
    6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
    DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
    G
    UFA - 3
    3 700 000 $3 700 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    DG/DD
    UFA - 3
    3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    1 950 000 $1 950 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    1 025 000 $1 025 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2

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    24 févr. 2018 à 9 h 5
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    Vegas: Ryan(50%), Callahan, 2nd, Strålman, 2019 1st
    Sens: 1st, two 3rds, Katchouk, Raddysh, cap space, Dotchin, Koekkoek
    Tampa: Pirri, Karlsson, Stone, throwaway pick

    First off: Why would you unload Callahan and Strålman? It makes zero sense for you to retain on Ryan's deal when Vegas has the space. Also, Stone to Tampa makes literally zero sense. You don't need more forwards. And that package to Ottawa wouldn't even get you both of them even if unloading Ryan in the same deal.
    24 févr. 2018 à 9 h 33
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    Your trade for Karlsson is far from the reality. First, because Stone is not available. Second and the most important, Dorian would be laughing about what you offer for Karlsson and Stone. Even acquiring Ryan and his terrible contract.
    24 févr. 2018 à 9 h 38
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    ROFL this is a garbage proposal, the Sens are not including Stone in any Karlsson trade and if they did the return would sky rocket.
    24 févr. 2018 à 9 h 40
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    LMFAO. What a horrendous proposal. Even Cheap ****, Melnyk and Dope-head Dorian aren't this stupid.

    Also, it's "couldn't care less."
    24 févr. 2018 à 9 h 41
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    Vote didn't go through. You earned a 1 star here!
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    24 févr. 2018 à 10 h 0
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    That package doesn’t even get you Stone, let alone Karlsson
    24 févr. 2018 à 11 h 9
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    Ottawa laughs. Why the **** would we retain on Ryan? Also, giving up Koekkoek, Dotchin and Stralman makes our defense look very slow after 3 guys. Looks worse IMO minus the top pairing. Hedman or Karlsson go down and youre ****ed
    24 févr. 2018 à 12 h 21
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    I think Ottawa considers this for the same reason they consider moving Karlsson in the first place: to remain profitable while rebuilding, and to accelerate that rebuild.

    I'm not from any of these three towns, but I appreciate some things about each team. Just trying to use Brassard as a benchmark for how this trade deadline is going.

    As a fan of a different team in the Eastern Conference, I think the whole thing stinks.
    24 févr. 2018 à 12 h 25
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    Quoting: boltscharge17
    Ottawa laughs. Why the **** would we retain on Ryan? Also, giving up Koekkoek, Dotchin and Stralman makes our defense look very slow after 3 guys. Looks worse IMO minus the top pairing. Hedman or Karlsson go down and youre ****ed


    Did you think Vegas didn't want to beat you in the finals?
    24 févr. 2018 à 12 h 40
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    Honestly Eli... that Ottawa trade is some hot garbage... Mark Stone is arguably a Top 10 winger, and will likely command 7+ million. EK is considered the best defenceman in the league by some. and Bobby Ryan isn't that much of a dead weight to A.) bring the value down for Ottawa to the point where you just throw a couple borderline NHLers and bad picks for a package with EK and Stone, also B.) trading Ryan to Vegas to get a peanut while retaining money you don't have, and giving up Stralman and a great future pick.

    If Yzerman wants to get EK extremely badly the offer needs to start with Sergachev or Point and add onto it from there... But honestly I see 0 way for a deal like that to work for EK from Tampa's perspective as both those guys will be valuable pieces to Tampa's continued success
    24 févr. 2018 à 12 h 45
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    Quoting: Eli
    Did you think Vegas didn't want to beat you in the finals?


    You got to be ******* kidding me...
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    24 févr. 2018 à 13 h 1
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    Honestly Eli... that Ottawa trade is some hot garbage... Mark Stone is arguably a Top 10 winger, and will likely command 7+ million. EK is considered the best defenceman in the league by some. and Bobby Ryan isn't that much of a dead weight to A.) bring the value down for Ottawa to the point where you just throw a couple borderline NHLers and bad picks for a package with EK and Stone, also B.) trading Ryan to Vegas to get a peanut while retaining money you don't have, and giving up Stralman and a great future pick.

    If Yzerman wants to get EK extremely badly the offer needs to start with Sergachev or Point and add onto it from there... But honestly I see 0 way for a deal like that to work for EK from Tampa's perspective as both those guys will be valuable pieces to Tampa's continued success


    Bobby Ryan is on pace for thirty points. Erik Karlsson is pushing for Mr. Futility. Ottawa isn't trading them as a package without a sweetener. Pointing out that Stone's next contract might be 7M/yr just makes it clearer why Melnyk green lights this deal over Dorion's objections and/or resignation.
    24 févr. 2018 à 13 h 18
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    Bobby Ryan is on pace for thirty points. Erik Karlsson is pushing for Mr. Futility. Ottawa isn't trading them as a package without a sweetener. Pointing out that Stone's next contract might be 7M/yr just makes it clearer why Melnyk green lights this deal over Dorion's objections and/or resignation.


    honestly if he is making 7M (Ryan) and gets 30 points thats fine... totally not worth the contract I understand, but throwing Katchouk and Raddysh (both borderline NHLers... I see them being Top 9 guys) + a late 1st + 2 late 3rds and 2 decent NHL defenceman doesn't make me want to scream firesale from Ottawa's standpoint. Plus giving up futures + Top 4 defenceman + enough salary retained to make Stone a rental for a 7th is stupid... whole trade here is bad.

    Stone is also one hell of a sweetener... like arguably the best player on the Sens this year.

    No sense arguing with you... haven't seen you post a single trade that has gotten higher than 1 star
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    24 févr. 2018 à 13 h 44
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    honestly if he is making 7M (Ryan) and gets 30 points thats fine... totally not worth the contract I understand, but throwing Katchouk and Raddysh (both borderline NHLers... I see them being Top 9 guys) + a late 1st + 2 late 3rds and 2 decent NHL defenceman doesn't make me want to scream firesale from Ottawa's standpoint. Plus giving up futures + Top 4 defenceman + enough salary retained to make Stone a rental for a 7th is stupid... whole trade here is bad.

    Stone is also one hell of a sweetener... like arguably the best player on the Sens this year.

    No sense arguing with you... haven't seen you post a single trade that has gotten higher than 1 star


    Well, I can't argue with you there: I don't argue with me, either!

    You might appreciate this one? https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/578868

    Perspective is so important. Sorry I offended you.
     
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