Markov = not even good enough for Russia to put him at the top of the B list for the olympics he looks so old out there like he didnt train this summer

Subban = Cancer

Radulov = put family first our fans target players families when they struggle and radulov struggled twice last year and felt the heat.

Alzner is the only D out there with positive impact every game (yeah he costs us some to but so does everyone but few show up every game )
he's a -4 and his partner all year is a -24 with Petry getting -11 of that on PP by himself .

he is the only player on our entire team with 100 + hits and blocked shots
give him a partner that isnt Petry and he wont turnover so many pucks trying to bail out petry doing more then he is capable .


Drouin and Chucky clicking on PP has brought us from 26th before christmas to 9th in PP units in the NHL
those 2 together with Scherbak especially look get and CJ has got chucky playing like he did under Eller
(as soon as Coach Eller left Chucky's Partying began and his possession metrics literally went minus,CJ took his C away in the summer as such Chucky didnt party
and worked his ass off all year to get back to top line where he's thriving again for the first time since the 59th game of 2015 when he got his first crack at Center going
22 pts and 16 goals in 23 games )


also here's a list of Centers who refused to be abused in MTL

Spezza - blocked a trade despite not having to move and it paying more money instead he moved 1000's of miles to USA to a small market .
Kesler- laughed in our face
Staal- signed with MIN for less then half what we offered him just to play in a small stress free market .
Panarin - signed with CHI after MB scouting and trying to sign him 2 years because well he wanted a cup but i'm putting him here to because he also refused to sign here
Shipachyov - MB scouted and tried signing over a year and was close but opted to go with VGK a smaller market

everytime a C comes up they have MTL on their No Trade Lists
our fans literally create a mob outside the arena everytime they are mad so we shouldnt be surprised given the Cunneyworth situation they see
that as how fans here treat people who wont learn french

I like it but I don't think CBJ would of taken on Subbans contract

It doesn't matter...offense starts from puck moving D. Markov, Mete, Sergachev, Petry, Jerabek, Beaulieu can all move the puck.

Would of preferred to over pay for Radulov and keep Sergachev over Drouin. Who cares about the PP, Drouin and AG are -27, worst in the league.

Why isn't Subban a cancer in NSH?

Who cares about Spezza, Kesler and Staal? They're all dinosaurs. Staal should of came here 6 yrs ago.

Explain me please why there was no mob when Koivu was here and didn't make an effort to learn french?

this is why Architect is blocked

Koivu did have a mob at him over not speaking french
the year he left it was all over the media to the point it was nauseating .
the articles are all still there time stamped for you to see he just hoped Opinion > Fact

anyone who thought MTL fans left Koivu alone didnt read his comments he released defending his lack of french just to they'd stop FFS

the fact that he thinks Beaulieu Mr Turnover King is a good playmaker proves his knowledge is suspect at best .
Beaulieu being given space to grow when MB cleared out our entire LD after our ECF is why we tail spinned giving up
350 hits and 400+ blocked shots between Murray ,Boullion and Gorges and replacing them with Beaulieu ,Emelin and Gilbert .

Subbans a Cancer because he is all bout himself
even with Ellis the top RD out to start the season PK never left 2nd pair they promoted Ekhom a LD instead because Subban his first 25 games in NSH
played with Josi on top pair but Subban kept leaving him out to dry to the point Josi was getting pissed staring Subban down and getting pissed on the bench.
until Subban got injured all you heard was Josi and Fisher talking with the coach about Subbans attitude putting himself above the team.

as soon as they moved him to his own Pair on 2nd all that stopped and Subban began thriving when everyone accepted that they paid for a 2nd pair D to make 9/9.25m their other 3 top 4 make combined . guaranteed by next trade deadline he's moved because Ellis's payday comes first then Josi's and they wont keep subban just for him to go UFA when they have to re-sign Ekholm instead they'll likely Use Subban to land a Kessel or something like that

(Where are you getting your numbers from?)



I'm not sure where you are getting the idea that Alzner is carrying Petry, and not the other way around?

Before I say anything else, Alzner has improved lately, so credit where it is due, but Petry is still carrying the pair. The only difference is that Petry has had to step in offensively more frequently, and can now rely on Alzner to cover his pinches.

Plus/minus is not a valid statistic to compare the two.
Petry plays more on the PP, where you don't get credit for goals for.
Alzner plays more on the PK, where you don't get credit for goals against.
Most of the time, they are together at even strength. Since Montreal hasn't been scoring a lot at even strength, they would be relatively close, but both still in the minus column.

Petry only has about 10 less blocks than Alzner, and about 20 more hits. If you factor in special teams, Petry would have more blocks than Alzner as well. Petry isn't known for hitting or blocking shots, so the guy that is supposed to be doing those things should be decidedly better.

The problem is that you can't block shots when you are out of position, and you can't hit guys when they skate or move the puck past you before you close the gap. Those have been major flaws in Alzner's game this season.
It often falls to Petry to compensate for Alzner's positioning, as he either gets caught puck watching or chasing. Less noticeable lately, but it was blatantly obvious when watching the games prior to that.
More often than not, when Petry was made to look stupid on a play, it was because Alzner was caught in no man's land, so Petry would have to make a desperate attempt to do two jobs at once.

I don't understand how Petry, who has had a few decent years despite questionable partners, is having a career year, but getting so much extra criticism.

Why would NSH trade their #1C in Johanson for another RHD? *At the time* they had Weber and Ellis. No need to subtract what they needed the most for what they had the most.

here's a site you should look into it shows who's on ice , when
who is matched up vs who , who played the most minutes with each person and every advanced metric with sources.

its done by the Math Department at a University and on Montreal has this type of in depth analysis available to Fans
thank Dan Lacroix for showing me this link when he was coaching here in Junior .

http://www.cs.unb.ca/~mwf/habs/

there is a difference between Alzner passing 2 pucks in 10 minutes to Mcdavids line letting Mcdavid and Lugic score which is 100% his fault
then there is Petry jumping up on the play and blowing it constantly . Alzner and Benn are the only ones out there battling for Carey as Defensive Defensemen
and like Josh Gorges before he left in the last year or team was a playoff contender they get no Respect.(it should be noticed Price was beside himself when they traded his Shot Blocker and Best Friend on the team )


Petry is good on PP but the more you give him 5v5 and PK the worse our team has been and the more our goalies were hungout to dry .
Alzner played with Niskanen a strong offensive D for 3 years with no issues. so to think he's the problem when Petry's top 10 in turnovers again this year (3rd in NHL turnovers currently and up 4 spots from last year )


Petry's got upside i am not saying he dont but Alzner >Petry as a 2nd pair D its just that simple .
Petry's a great guy who adds offense but since coming to MTL his turnovers 245 for 205 games with 77 pts of which 26 were PP points.

to me you move out Petry , bring up Juulsen and Jerabek on RD
Mete-Weber
Alzner-Juulsen
Benn-Jerabek

then you draft a D top 10 this year as there are 5 of which 4 are RD and 3 could make the NHL Jump right away with 1 guaranteed to in Dahlin

Block me all you want. And you can accuse me all you want on opinion>fact .
The apparent fact is alot of  your opinions are hyperbole.
Subban was critisized like you said in the beggining of last year. This year I haven't heard anything remotely close to him being a cancer. He's also averaging 40 secs less than Josi, while playing on 2nd pair. It doesn't also help your case that he's in the Norris convesation. Fake news

I went to look for any stories about a French mob gathering in front of the Bell to protest Koivu, and there was nada. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt so please post link...in English.

As for Radulov, he was going through a divorce. So to state that his decision was based on what's beneficial for his family, is inaccurate. You can speculate all you want, nobody knows the real reason. It could as easily been MBs  own ego biting him on the ass. Fake news

Cause Markov didn't make the Olympic team is a weak argument. You're indirectly saying that we're better off with Alzner and he's contract than Markovs supposedly 2 yr 6 mill. That's ludicrous. Alzner can block shots all day, but he can't drive the play out of the zone. I can't believe you're using analytics to back up Alzner. He's Washington's sloppy seconds, why should he be good enough to play for the Habs? Isn't it obvious to you why this team is so much shitier than last years? fact that you think the Habs were better off protecting Benn instead of Beaulieu is also  ludicrous. At least Beaulieu put up almost 30 points. You're like a "mini me" version on MB, you got the same mediocre vision for this team. Destined for mediocrity.
I think your own perseption of your knowledge is suspect.

Spirax wanted to make a fun post about what the team would of looked like if MB hadn't messed with it. And you went and wrote a novel in response.

On another note, when you talk about me, try adressing it directly to me. Cause you sound like Paul Pot...a genecidal psychopath trying to recruit uneducated peasants to form a resistance party to go to battle against me. Stop insulting everyone's inteligence with your "fake news". And stop being pretentious with your analytics.
The only reason you get stars on your ACGM is cause of all the time you spend writing useless "additional information". But when I Iook at your teams, I see  middle of the pack teams talentwise. And no those 3 1st round picks that you are so hard trying to acquire from other teams won't replenish the prospect cupboard.

 Make sure to not unblock me accidentally...again

Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm only seeing goal scoring and toi related stats. No advanced metrics?

click on each individual game and a whole **** ton of stuff you havent looked at pops up
its a very confusing site at first because its so much info to take in . i only again learned about it because
my tutor in highschool was the Captain of Lacroix team and they let me hangout with them because they were cool like that .

take your time absorb the info its a fantastic site that offers advanced analysis you wont find for any other NHL team as only MTL fans are this die hard the grade students to create this system for 15 years now+ .

also advanced Metrics i use this Site i found years back as it provides not only detailed analysis but the age's to provide context for production each year among other things.
also a cool site and far less confusing

https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/MTL/

I tried that. Still limited to lines, toi, and goals. No sign of things like corsi, hits, giveaways, etc. It's also sourced from nhl.com, so other than ice time breakdowns and shift charts, I'm not seeing any added value.
I'm on mobile right now, so I'll try on PC later in case.

yeah mobile makes it pretty hard from personal experience .
again i think on your PC the two links i showed you you'll like
the 2nd 1 you can see Corsi and FF on your phone i know from personal experience but its annoying as its a lot of scrolling back and forth .

try on your PC later between the 2 sites you can break down an entire game from matchups to advanced stats to who took which draw vs whom .

Its also that the mob is fueled by the toxic media in Montreal. I know the media should report un-biased but listening to the french and english media out of my home town is embarasing. I wish people had the ability to think for themselves and not be negatively swayed by the media. There are a few markets that do this to their teams and unfortunately we are one of them. Great to the players when they win and tear them down when they lose.

i couldnt agree more