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MTL gets their #1 center (if the caps start sucking wind)

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Équipe: 2017-18 Capitals de Washington
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6 févr. 2018 à 11 h 31
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AS MTL fan, I like the trade, but if MTL trdes Pacio, it's for future, Backstrom is a 1st center for sure, but MTL is not looking for the present.
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6 févr. 2018 à 11 h 37
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Quoting: yanp007
AS MTL fan, I like the trade, but if MTL trdes Pacio, it's for future, Backstrom is a 1st center for sure, but MTL is not looking for the present.


I don’t understand this comment. (No offense) why would Montreal not look for the present in a trade for pacioretty. Backstrom has at least 5-6 great years left in him. I think if this deal came to Bergevin he would drool over it.
6 févr. 2018 à 11 h 41
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I don’t understand this comment. (No offense) why would Montreal not look for the present in a trade for pacioretty. Backstrom has at least 5-6 great years left in him. I think if this deal came to Bergevin he would drool over it.


mtl is adding youth in their roster, with all those 2018 draft picks and more to come. yes our core would be price and weber, but drouin (22), Mete (19) Scherbak (22) Galchenyuk (23) Lehkonen (22) are all part of a young core.
6 févr. 2018 à 11 h 53
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Quoting: Price_is_the_goat
mtl is adding youth in their roster, with all those 2018 draft picks and more to come. yes our core would be price and weber, but drouin (22), Mete (19) Scherbak (22) Galchenyuk (23) Lehkonen (22) are all part of a young core.


Can’t agree with y’all on this one being a caps fan. We’ve seen the greatness from Backstrom for so many years. And so has bergevin I’m sure. I definitely think he’d take Backstrom for just Pacioretty and Juulsen. If it’s not pacioretty it’s drouin and Juulsen and a 1st
6 févr. 2018 à 11 h 54
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As a Habs fan... I would say YES! Backstrom will stabilized our weakness at Center for 2 more years @ 6,7M... but as he will be UFA in 2020, I would ask for a second rd pick against Juulsen.
or I will keep Juulsen and add a 2nd pick with Pacc.
6 févr. 2018 à 11 h 54
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Can’t agree with y’all on this one being a caps fan. We’ve seen the greatness from Backstrom for so many years. And so has bergevin I’m sure. I definitely think he’d take Backstrom for just Pacioretty and Juulsen. If it’s not pacioretty it’s drouin and Juulsen and a 1st


woah. pac is good. Drouin is 22. we arent trading him for a 28 year old. I love backstrom. he's imo one of the most underappreciated centers in the league. but from a caps pov, why would they trade him?
6 févr. 2018 à 11 h 55
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Quoting: BrianMacLeonsis
Can’t agree with y’all on this one being a caps fan. We’ve seen the greatness from Backstrom for so many years. And so has bergevin I’m sure. I definitely think he’d take Backstrom for just Pacioretty and Juulsen. If it’s not pacioretty it’s drouin and Juulsen and a 1st


No one is questioning Backstrom's value/skill. Montreal fans are just ready for a rebuild, and we are missing far more than just a #1 center. We know we don't have the prospects/picks to save this current situation, and hope our GM sees the writing on the wall. Otherwise we are set back years after all our trade value diminishes or leaves for nothing. Pacioretty to Caps could still happen, we just want youth/picks in return.
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6 févr. 2018 à 12 h 1
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woah. pac is good. Drouin is 22. we arent trading him for a 28 year old. I love backstrom. he's imo one of the most underappreciated centers in the league. but from a caps pov, why would they trade him?


I by any means don’t wanna trade him. However, the caps are gonna be crunched up by the cap and it’s been known that Backstrom doesn’t wanna be here anymore. The caps will take anything they can get for cap relief. I also think they wanna keep the window somewhat open for Ovi or else he’ll probly be traded too.

Bottom line is the Caps won’t make it past the 1st or 2nd round this year. So I’ve sorta come to the conclusion that a mini rebuild may be necessary. And it starts with Backstrom, Orpik, and Niskanen. Maybe even holtby to a certain extent cuz we have Samsonov coming over from Russia.

Just my two cents which ain’t worth a whole lot lolololol
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6 févr. 2018 à 12 h 2
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if caps are trade backstrom its for a young player and a lot of picks......backstrom is a top 5 center in the nhl and number one centers are the highest valued players in the nhl..........so caps say no

look at what tavares would get and that what backstrom would get

az trade is pointless caps minor league goaleis ae close to wedgewood in talent.................


Axel Jonson-Fjalby is looking to be a great two way player why are you trading him.....that so dumb i cant even understand it..............like a selke type guy under 20 y/o thats so crazy...then djoo who is in his first nhl seson and looks great imagine him with 2 more yers at the nhl level................and a 1st this is awful.
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6 févr. 2018 à 12 h 4
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I'd give that any day of the week for Backstrom which probably means we're underpaying a little. I think you don't realize how valuable Backstrom is. You could get a kings ransom for him and i think you are selling him short big time here.
6 févr. 2018 à 12 h 5
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if caps are trade backstrom its for a young player and a lot of picks......backstrom is a top 5 center in the nhl and number one centers are the highest valued players in the nhl..........so caps say no

look at what tavares would get and that what backstrom would get

az trade is pointless caps minor league goaleis ae close to wedgewood in talent.................


Axel Jonson-Fjalby is looking to be a great two way player why are you trading him.....that so dumb i cant even understand it..............like a selke type guy under 20 y/o thats so crazy...then djoo who is in his first nhl seson and looks great imagine him with 2 more yers at the nhl level................and a 1st this is awful.


who for selke?
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6 févr. 2018 à 12 h 6
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I by any means don’t wanna trade him. However, the caps are gonna be crunched up by the cap and it’s been known that Backstrom doesn’t wanna be here anymore. The caps will take anything they can get for cap relief. I also think they wanna keep the window somewhat open for Ovi or else he’ll probly be traded too.

Bottom line is the Caps won’t make it past the 1st or 2nd round this year. So I’ve sorta come to the conclusion that a mini rebuild may be necessary. And it starts with Backstrom, Orpik, and Niskanen. Maybe even holtby to a certain extent cuz we have Samsonov coming over from Russia.

Just my two cents which ain’t worth a whole lot lolololol


1) backstrom has already spoke about resigning in dc so idk your source which i imagine is yourself but he loves it in dc.........ive never heard a single rumor of him wanting to leave
2)nisk is a #1 d man under 6 mil....hes great idk how you think hes an issue?
3)holtby is a top 3 goalie in the nhl
6 févr. 2018 à 12 h 9
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who for selke?


haha not a selke winner.... he isnt in the nhl yet but Axel Jonson-Fjalby is a solid 2 way forward world juniors netted a few sh goals............idk if you ever watched him play but if caps throw him into any trade its risking a forsberg deal all over again
6 févr. 2018 à 12 h 18
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haha not a selke winner.... he isnt in the nhl yet but Axel Jonson-Fjalby is a solid 2 way forward world juniors netted a few sh goals............idk if you ever watched him play but if caps throw him into any trade its risking a forsberg deal all over again


i admit i am guilty to overrating my teams prospects time to time, but come on bud. he's not even dominant in the shl. but if u think that, thats ur thing
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6 févr. 2018 à 12 h 27
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Quoting: BrianMacLeonsis
Can’t agree with y’all on this one being a caps fan. We’ve seen the greatness from Backstrom for so many years. And so has bergevin I’m sure. I definitely think he’d take Backstrom for just Pacioretty and Juulsen. If it’s not pacioretty it’s drouin and Juulsen and a 1st


Why would we trade away even more of our non-existence prospect pool? We are getting older (Pacioretty + Juulsens AVG age compared to Backstroms age) on a team that wants to get younger, it makes no sense. We need guys like Juulsen for the AHL team as well.
6 févr. 2018 à 12 h 28
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i admit i am guilty to overrating my teams prospects time to time, but come on bud. he's not even dominant in the shl. but if u think that, thats ur thing


most selke guys arent dominating on stat sheets.....but i can understand what you mean
6 févr. 2018 à 12 h 36
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who for selke?


Quoting: Price_is_the_goat
i admit i am guilty to overrating my teams prospects time to time, but come on bud. he's not even dominant in the shl. but if u think that, thats ur thing


Hahahahahah
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Hahahahahah


the only funny part of this is how bad you value every trade....
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6 févr. 2018 à 12 h 49
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the only funny part of this is how bad you value every trade....


Let’s see you do it better then big shot since you seem to know everything
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Hahahahahah


two highlight reel shorthanded goals and two assists in seven games played in the world juniors...... He was also a +4, took 20 shots and averaged more than 10 minutes of ice time a game and you want to toss him in like a 4th round pick .............nylander had 7 points fyi
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Why would we trade away even more of our non-existence prospect pool? We are getting older (Pacioretty + Juulsens AVG age compared to Backstroms age) on a team that wants to get younger, it makes no sense. We need guys like Juulsen for the AHL team as well.


You are crazy to think we shouldn't make this trade simply to dump Backstrom afterwards for way more than what we'd get for Pacioretty and Juulsen.

This doesn't take rocket science.

Backstrom >> Pacioretty in value and is only 1 year younger but signed longer.
Juulsen is not a game breaker. He's got potential to be a top 4 at best.

Backstrom alone will get more than both these guys together.

Even if MTL is rebuilding, I'd still do this. Center position is so crucial. Wingers can be picked off trees. Plus Juulsen is a RHD which we have two of our best dman already taking up those minutes in Weber and Petry and there isn't any trade for them in the foreseeable future.
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You are crazy to think we shouldn't make this trade simply to dump Backstrom afterwards for way more than what e'd get for Pacioretty.

This doesn't take rocket science.

Backstrom >> Pacioretty in value and is only 1 year younger.
Juulsen is not a game breaker. He's got potential to be a top at best.

Backstrom alone will get more than both these guys together.

Even if MTL is rebuilding, I'd still do this. Center position is so crucial. Wingers can be picked off trees. Plus Juulsen is a RHD which we have two of our best dman already taking up those minutes in Weber and Petry and there isn't any trade for them in the foreseeable future.


It was either this or it was Drouin, Juulsen, and a 1st
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It was either this or it was Drouin, Juulsen, and a 1st


Ummmm Pacioretty does not = Drouin and a 1st man, what are you talking about? Drouin >> Pacioretty in terms of value.
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Two former 1st round picks in Patch and Juulsen for backstrom? gee, that is a good trade for Caps.
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You are crazy to think we shouldn't make this trade simply to dump Backstrom afterwards for way more than what we'd get for Pacioretty and Juulsen.

This doesn't take rocket science.

Backstrom >> Pacioretty in value and is only 1 year younger but signed longer.
Juulsen is not a game breaker. He's got potential to be a top 4 at best.

Backstrom alone will get more than both these guys together.

Even if MTL is rebuilding, I'd still do this. Center position is so crucial. Wingers can be picked off trees. Plus Juulsen is a RHD which we have two of our best dman already taking up those minutes in Weber and Petry and there isn't any trade for them in the foreseeable future.


the best team for caps to trade backstrom to would be carolina they could get Hanifin +
 
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