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Mackenzie says these teams are interested!!! Comments

Créé par: Zach
Équipe: 2017-18 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 13 déc. 2017
Publié: 13 déc. 2017
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Mackenzie says the price for Kane will be considerably more than a good prospect, a 1st, and a 2nd.
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BUF
  1. Meier, Timo
  2. Roy, Jérémy
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (SJS)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (SJS)
Détails additionnels:
2019 1st is a conditional pick, if San Jose makes it to the semi finals the Sabres recieve a 2019 2nd, if San Jose makes it to the conference finals or wins the Cup, the Sabres recieve the 2019 1st
SJS
    Evander Kane 50% retained
    2.
    BUF
    1. Jankowski, Mark
    2. Välimäki, Juuso
    3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (CGY)
    CGY
      Evander Kane 50% retained
      3.
      BUF
      1. Jones, Max
      2. Ritchie, Nick
      3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (ANA)
      ANA
        Evander Kane 50% retained
        4.
        BUF
        1. Dunn, Vince
        2. Thomas, Robert
        3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (STL)
        4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (STL)
        STL
        1. Kane, Evander (2 625 000 $ retained)
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        TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
        2375 000 000 $58 772 858 $0 $7 837 500 $16 227 142 $
        Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
        1 875 000 $1 875 000 $
        C
        UFA - 6
        6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
        AD
        NMC
        UFA - 6
        1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
        AG
        UFA - 1
        1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
        AG, C
        UFA - 2
        5 600 000 $5 600 000 $
        AD
        M-NTC, NMC
        UFA - 2
        625 000 $625 000 $
        AG
        UFA - 1
        1 475 000 $1 475 000 $
        C, AG
        UFA - 2
        925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance637 500 $$638K)
        AD
        UFA - 1
        950 000 $950 000 $
        AG
        UFA - 1
        894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
        AD
        UFA - 1
        894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
        AG
        UFA - 1
        925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
        C
        UFA - 1
        700 000 $700 000 $
        C, AG
        UFA - 1
        650 000 $650 000 $
        AG, C
        UFA - 2
        Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
        2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
        DG
        UFA - 3
        5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
        DD
        UFA - 5
        4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
        G
        UFA - 1
        1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
        DG/DD
        UFA - 2
        5 142 857 $5 142 857 $
        DD
        UFA - 3
        2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
        G
        UFA - 1
        2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
        DG/DD
        UFA - 2
        925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
        DG
        UFA - 1
        3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
        DG
        M-NTC
        UFA - 1

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        13 déc. 2017 à 11 h 53
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        Emotionally in 2018
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        If that's the asking price, I doubt any team pulls the trigger.
        13 déc. 2017 à 11 h 58
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        Quoting: krakowitz
        If that's the asking price, I doubt any team pulls the trigger.


        I agree, especially Blues and Calgary. Giving up current NHL rookies, their top prospect and a 1st... no way
        13 déc. 2017 à 12 h 0
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        Dunn and Thomas are most likely the Blues best young players. They're not trading them along with a 1st & a 2nd for half a year of Kane.
        13 déc. 2017 à 12 h 1
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        No way are these teams going to give up those pieces for a pending UFA in Evander Kane, Unless there is a chance of resigning him for fair market price. I agree with Krakowitz that i doubt any team pulls the trigger.
        13 déc. 2017 à 12 h 6
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        I think teams are hesitant to acquire him. yes every team wants a scoring winger, but off ice issues matter as well, and we all know Kane's history off the ice. I just don't see the sabres getting a max value for him
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        13 déc. 2017 à 12 h 11
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        The blueprint is about what Winnipeg got for Ladd, so for example from St. Louis you're probably looking at Barbashev, 1st, and maybe a 2nd, not a team's top two prospects and two 1sts
        loganreid et Price_is_the_goat a aimé ceci.
        13 déc. 2017 à 12 h 13
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        Quoting: commondreads94
        The blueprint is about what Winnipeg got for Ladd, so for example from St. Louis you're probably looking at Barbashev, 1st, and maybe a 2nd, not a team's top two prospects and two 1sts


        Right, I think Buffalo will get "top" value for him but the top value is much less than this post is implying. High end rentals are worth a 1st and prospect, adding more picks depending on how good the prospect is.
        13 déc. 2017 à 12 h 17
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        Quoting: Price_is_the_goat
        I think teams are hesitant to acquire him. yes every team wants a scoring winger, but off ice issues matter as well, and we all know Kane's history off the ice. I just don't see the sabres getting a max value for him


        LOL at people still spouting this ancient narrative. No problems have happened since one if buffalo when he got here that resulted in pretty much nothing. Just stop trying to pull this card, the horse is already dead.
        13 déc. 2017 à 12 h 18
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        Any team who actually wants to win the cup will give up quite a lot for a goal scorer like Kane. He has so many assets: size, speed, shot, net-front presence, penalty killing, power-play, physicality. Tell me another player in the league who does all of those things as well as Kane does. Buffalo will absolutely be asking for a 1st a good prospect and maybe a 2nd for our best player
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        13 déc. 2017 à 13 h 0
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        Bobby Mac reports what GM Botterill tells him guys. Whats he going to say? "Man I'd really like to get a 1st rounder so i'll take the first offer that someone gives me!"

        This is a GM driving up the price on a player. Nothing less, nothing more. No team, I REPEAT, NO TEAM is paying those prices. Has any pending UFA in NHL history received that type of return?

        You notice how the Insiders are very ambiguous when they report values and trades? This is precisely why. The fan bases are the only ones misconstruing these prices. The GM's aren't.

        Kyle Turris, a better overall player than Kane that plays a more important position, got not even remotely this much.......

        Remember when Sakic wanted a top notch young defensman (Carlo), a top prospect (McCavoy) and a 1st round pick for Duchene? You start high, and negotiate down.
        13 déc. 2017 à 13 h 26
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        Every year teams overpay. This year will be no different
        13 déc. 2017 à 13 h 30
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        Quoting: Skyraider112
        Any team who actually wants to win the cup will give up quite a lot for a goal scorer like Kane. He has so many assets: size, speed, shot, net-front presence, penalty killing, power-play, physicality. Tell me another player in the league who does all of those things as well as Kane does. Buffalo will absolutely be asking for a 1st a good prospect and maybe a 2nd for our best player


        Thats some serious wishful thinking, Kane's a great player who's clearly motivated by the fact its his contract year, but the reality is that every day that passes and the closer the deadline gets, the more the leverage shifts to the team the Sabres ultimately deal with. Furthermore, theres absolutely zero guarantee that Kane sees himself playing in Buffalo after this year.
        13 déc. 2017 à 13 h 36
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        Either a 1st a prospect and a lesser piece or a 2nd a top prospect and a lesser piece. I'd say the retention is worth a 3rd to the right team, but more likely Buffalo takes back a useful player with some salary, if necessary.
        If they take another player, it accounts for the lesser piece. If they retain, they can gain an extra pick or upgrade the prospect if they are already getting a 1st.
        13 déc. 2017 à 13 h 55
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        Quoting: commondreads94
        The blueprint is about what Winnipeg got for Ladd, so for example from St. Louis you're probably looking at Barbashev, 1st, and maybe a 2nd, not a team's top two prospects and two 1sts


        Got it perfectly here!
        13 déc. 2017 à 15 h 15
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        Whoever this Makenzie guy is he must work for the Sabres. Kane isn't getting that much in a trade.
        13 déc. 2017 à 15 h 17
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        LOL in what world does Armstrong give up a 20 year old NHL defenseman, one of the arguably 3 best players in the OHL and 2 picks for Kane?
        13 déc. 2017 à 17 h 48
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        Quoting: SabresGuy
        Quoting: Skyraider112
        Any team who actually wants to win the cup will give up quite a lot for a goal scorer like Kane. He has so many assets: size, speed, shot, net-front presence, penalty killing, power-play, physicality. Tell me another player in the league who does all of those things as well as Kane does. Buffalo will absolutely be asking for a 1st a good prospect and maybe a 2nd for our best player


        Thats some serious wishful thinking, Kane's a great player who's clearly motivated by the fact its his contract year, but the reality is that every day that passes and the closer the deadline gets, the more the leverage shifts to the team the Sabres ultimately deal with. Furthermore, theres absolutely zero guarantee that Kane sees himself playing in Buffalo after this year.


        This!

        Hanzal was traded for a 1st - how did that work out?
        Ladd was traded for a 1st - How did that work out?

        Teams are starting to come to the realization that having a player for a playoff year isn't worth a potential stud in a couple years. Aside from the TDL deals that were low risk high reward, those big name deadline deals seldom are worth it.
         
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