The cost of Dubois

Créé par: Shanesaw9

Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal

Date de création initiale: 28 mars 2023

Publié: 29 mars 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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Gaucher

Équipe initiale

Exempté du ballottage

Droitier

Position

Clause d'échange

Max. Bonis de perf.

Statut à l’échéance du contrat

Terme restant

McDavid, Connor

12 500 000 $ ( Bonis de performance

250 000 $)

NMC

UFA - 5

Description

https://montrealhockeynow.com/2023/03/28/montreal-canadiens-possible-canadiens-negotiation-tactic-to-pry-pierre-luc-dubois-from-jets/

If Hughes is willing to offersheet Dubois, the cost would only be a 1st and 3rd round pick (or literally nothing in 2024 if the Jets match the offer sheet). This sets the floor for Dubois' value on the trade market.

There are a couple trade comparisons from last season that allow us to gauge what a fair offer for Dubois looks like (something better than the offersheet).

1. Chychrun
- Arizona did not have a lot of leverage when trading Chychrun because they weren't willing to take back any salary (poverty franchise) and their unreasonable asking price drove potential suitors into making other deals until the market dried up. This lack of leverage is a similar situation to the one the Jets find themselves in (actually the Jets are in a worse situation because Chychrun still had 2 years left and didn't isolate the marker to a specific team like Dubois has). The return for Chychrun will be a 1st, and two 2nds.

2. Horvat
- Since MTL could acquire Dubois for nothing in 2024, they are essentially trading for an extra year of Dubois, in other words they are paying the cost of a rental. Horvat is a good comparison as NYI acquired him as a rental and signed him long term (which is what MTL would do with Dubois). The return for Horvat was Beauvillier, Raty, and a 1st round pick.

Given these two offers, I believe an offer of FLA's 2023 1st round pick (assuming it is in the 12 - 16 range), Dvorak, and a B prospect or lower value roster player / pick is the cost of Dubois.

I chose Edmundson as the additional piece for a few reasons:
- Manitoba guy
- Playoff experienced D man with size, carries value around the league (despite coming off a tough season).
- Expendable to MTL with a surplus of young D, possible fit for WPG with Stanley reportedly asking for a trade.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

LISTE DE RÉSERVE		ANS	CAP HIT
Nissen Dichow, Frederik		3	775 000 $

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Dubois, Pierre-Luc	8	8 000 000 $
Caufield, Cole	8	8 000 000 $
Gurianov, Denis	1	2 900 000 $
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël	2	775 000 $
Pezzetta, Michael	1	775 000 $
Teasdale, Joël	1	775 000 $
Ylönen, Jesse	1	775 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Belzile, Alex	1	775 000 $
Richard, Anthony	1	775 000 $
Drouin, Jonathan	1	1 750 000 $

Transactions

MTL

Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]

WPG

Dvorak, Christian
Edmundson, Joel
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)

Rachats de contrats

Karl Alzner: 833 333 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	83 500 000 $	74 224 166 $	1 170 000 $	695 000 $	9 275 834 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Caufield, Cole 8 000 000 $8 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 8	Suzuki, Nick 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ C UFA - 7	Armia, Joel 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
Hoffman, Mike 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Dubois, Pierre-Luc 8 000 000 $8 000 000 $ C UFA - 8
Gurianov, Denis 2 900 000 $2 900 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1	Drouin, Jonathan 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Dach, Kirby 3 362 500 $3 362 500 $ C, AD RFA - 3
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël 775 000 $775 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 2	Evans, Jake 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ C UFA - 2	Anderson, Josh 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 4
		Gallagher, Brendan 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Matheson, Michael 4 875 000 $4 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 3	Savard, David 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Montembeault, Samuel 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ G UFA - 1
Guhle, Kaiden 863 333 $863 333 $ (420 000 $$420K) DG/DD RFA - 2	Harris, Jordan 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 2	Allen, Jake 1 925 000 $1 925 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 2
	Barron, Justin 925 000 $925 000 $ (275 000 $$275K) DD RFA - 1
Xhekaj, Arber 828 333 $828 333 $ DG/DD RFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Pitlick, Rem 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1		Price, Carey 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 3
Pezzetta, Michael 775 000 $775 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2
Kovacevic, Johnathan 766 667 $766 667 $ DD UFA - 2

Équipe de réserve
Mesar, Filip 918 333 $918 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0) AD, C RFA - 4
Beck, Owen 885 000 $885 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) C RFA - 4

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Suzuki, N.		Dubois, P.		Dach, K.
	Caufield, C.		Matheson, M.

Avantage numérique 2
Drouin, J.		Anderson, J.		Gurianov, D.
	Barron, J.		Hoffman, M.

Commentaires populaires

29 mars 2023 à 13 h 23

Subbanator7667

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The Jets are heading into an interesting off season, they can take the road they should take and sell off aiming to acquire prospects and picks or they can head down this road and stay in mediocrity.

Either way it's more likely a prospect is involved in any PLD trade then having two veteran roster players being moved for him

Andy_Dick a aimé ceci.

29 mars 2023 à 13 h 33

HabsAreSus

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Ayo...Armia on the top line??? Did I switch into a different dimension overnight?

Fergy22 a aimé ceci.

29 mars 2023 à 13 h 37

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The Jets haveno reason to accept less than PLD gets as a rental and Edmundson has negative value to the Jets.

29 mars 2023 à 13 h 37

Shanesaw9

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Modifié 29 mars 2023 à 13 h 46

Quoting: Subbanator7667

The Jets are heading into an interesting off season, they can take the road they should take and sell off aiming to acquire prospects and picks or they can head down this road and stay in mediocrity.

Either way it's more likely a prospect is involved in any PLD trade then having two veteran roster players being moved for him

That would be the 12-16 overall pick. That is the core piece in this deal.

Alternative trade:
FLA 2023 1st Round Pick
COL 2024 2nd Round Pick
Ylonen

The offer with the vets is probably better.

29 mars 2023 à 13 h 44

Shanesaw9

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Modifié 29 mars 2023 à 13 h 55

Quoting: HabsAreSus

Ayo...Armia on the top line??? Did I switch into a different dimension overnight?

All Suzuki and Caufield really need is some big plug to win some puck battles who is decent defensively - doesn't really matter who it is.

I like Dach with Dubois, Anderson with Drouin, Gallagher with Evans. Bunch of wildcards like Slafkovsky, 2023 top pick, etc. but Armia could get showcased here... has had success with Suzuki in the past (Suzuki had the best GF% with Armia as his linemate in 2020-21 and I think Caufield-Suzuki-Armia also put up good GF% relative to teammates in 2021-22).

If it gets Armia's value back up so they can trade him that alone is worth it. Main point is, a spot on the top line is up for grabs.

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