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Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs7 févr. à 2 h 2
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Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs27 janv. à 16 h 42
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs24 janv. à 18 h 18
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs21 janv. à 19 h 5
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>I dont see Brad selling as it makes 0 sense for this team to do. They have their issues but recency Bias also be a thing. FLA almost missed but they didnt sell they stood pat but used the fire coach card, same for some other teams like STL who bought one cheap Dman.

Either make a trade for someone with term to give Keefe a new toy or use the fire bullet to allow u to stand pat at the TDL. Or heck do both those be Brads 3 options rn

Like if Brad went and spent assets for Chycrun or Fabbro or someone thats here beyond 4 months I got 0 issues as it allows em to plan ahead for next year

As then they have

Rielly, Chycrun, and McCabe as their LD going into 2024-2025.


As yea as we learned in FA its a world where u can have 4 or 5 targets but end up with one or two and the end result = often overpaying for said guys


Roy for instance could cost us 6.5-7m or we may miss out

We know Brad had his eyes on keeping ROR, Gudas, Dumba, keeping Schenn, Acciari, etc before settling on the others last offseason

Thats how FA works though cant get em all and they may ask for to much or not want to come.</div></div>

Leafs are in win now mode but they also have way too many holes to fill to make the team a true contender at the TDL.

This needs to addressed in the off season but I'm not even sure how that happens in the off season with extensions kicking in and others needing new contracts.

I definitely don't see any way this team being improved just magically at the TDL.
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs17 janv. à 1 h 59
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs17 janv. à 1 h 47
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NorthernLeafsFan05</b></div><div>I mean I'm not really giving up hope yet. Atleast we aren't buying into a team that we know is garbage. These are the growing pains of retooling a roster to fit a different mindset, like the 2019-20 Leafs. I have no doubt they'll figure it out, and I am a fan of Treliving's roster construction philosophies (that Calgary blueline was a work of art). I can't say that the results this season have really been surprising, and atleast the core is locked up so we don't have to worry about them

I'm not giving up yet. Whether that belief is blissful ignorance or not is yet to be seen, but I think the Leafs will be fine. Keefe will finish this season as head coach, the Leafs will make no major moves at the TDL (maybe a Robertson / Timmins prospect swap of sorts?), and we will get bounced in the first round of the playoffs. It'll be the same old story as always.

I personally like to think that the lack of success recently has fallen largely on our goaltending. This team will be fine when Woll is back. I also believe that this kind of forward group is EXACTLY what Treliving wants, but the blueline is still a long ways off. That'll be the priority this summer. For now, I want to see some strategic long term additions. Give me Alex Texier, give me Brandon Duhaime, give me Mario Ferraro (unless he costs more than like a 2nd round pick combined). Just be smart with our assets, that's all I want</div></div>

I agree with most of what you've said. The part I'm troubled by is $$$ allocation. Yeah it's great to have these top forwards, just wished the organization would have smartened up a bit on negotiations because that could have meant a more balanced roster.

Right now, if the top 2 lines aren't continuously racking up the goals, the team loses because defensively they haven't figured out the "bend but don't break" strategy.

Also I know there's alot of faith in young Woll but especially looking into next season, the team should want a goalie who will push Woll for minutes. The whole idea of "iron sharpens iron".
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs14 janv. à 11 h 49
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juice</b></div><div>That's a wee bit excessive for me....hard to fire a rookie coach after doing well in a bubble season....but you want to see growth and learning from mistakes.

I'm quite confident we would be angry regardless of who's coaching after this type of loss...or one where we fall behind and don't catch up.

Our big guys up front are just as likely to put in 3 goals in 6minutes as they are to cough up the same amount.

If a coach makes adjustments and we still cough up a lead or fail to come back from behind...we'd be on here posting TOI figures for our best players and questioning why we're paying these guys if we're not going to use them when it matters most.

If he rides the big guys and they fail, we're on here wondering why he doesn't make adjustments.

That's the nature of our discontent as fans and....as far as I'm concerned...we're completely entitled to it.

For me, it's the inconsistencies in effort. You can have good games and bad games....bad bounces....awful calls by the ref....but my main issue is that you look at a leader like Mackinnon last night and he goes 100 every game all season it seems.

I've seen games out of Matthews like that. I've seen Nylander take over games. Marner can be a dog on a bone sometimes on the forecheck and directing the offense...I don't think I've seen JT every really have a game where he "dominates"...he's consistently "good" as far as I'm concerned.

But it was probably early last year for me when I really started to sour on Keefe...when he seems to call out the big guys in a post-game presser and then walks it back the next day. I don't know if that's him...or Dubas telling him to walk it back...or the players/agents complaining to management that they don't want their clients' names criticized....I dunno...but Keefe seems ok to be pushed around,

MLSE just hired Pelley to take over as CEO...have to think all the team presidents are somewhat on notice. Shanny may have one more coaching change life in him...I dunno....but I just want a Brind'Amour type...former player that's young enough to relate but strong enough to demand and won't p*ssy foot around

Berube might be that guy but I don't buy it...he kinda had one magical half season in St. Louis. Paul Maurice comes to mind as another but he's not going anywhere. Gallant? Gotta be a reason he doesn't last long anywhere but he seems to get results in a short time-frame. Reunite with D.J. Smith? Don't think that would make the fanbase happy but I could see it happen.

Doug Gilmour...no for me
Patrick Roy...disaster waiting to happen

Gruden? I don't know enough about the guy

Just get me someone that won't be afraid to put our stars in their place every now and then when their effort wanes.</div></div>

Well...think of it this way...what was the complaints with Babcock and Keefe over the years? Those complaints are still the same.

The other issue I don't like at all is Keefe being critical of any of the core guys and immediately walking back those comments the next day.

Healthy scratching Kampf....because why? How about benching a core guy when he doesn't play well?

I mean these are just a few reasons why Keefe should have been fired well before this season but there's too many more reasons.

The sad thing about firing him now is that the coaching replacements available at the moment is way less impressive than let's say someone like when Bruce Cassidy was available.
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs14 janv. à 3 h 56
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs13 janv. à 2 h 50
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs9 janv. à 20 h 59
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NorthernLeafsFan05</b></div><div>Im really curious as to why people are so up in arms about a Marner extension. Mitch wants to be a Leaf, just like both Matthews and Nylander wanted to be. A deal will get done. If Mitch does get signed at a high number like 12.5m, then so be it. That would be a ~1.6m pay raise. Big deal. Plus, the first year that this extension kicks in is the same year that Tavares' money comes off of the books, It's literally so easy and the precedent has already been set with Nylander and Matthews. If anything, this is the contract extension that worries me least.</div></div>

I'll tell you why ...
Marner being the hometown guy...people expect him of all the players on this roster the hunger for playoff success being paramount.

Instead, people feel this guy is all about being paid the same as his buddies and so will be loved anyway.

Well...the truth is most reasonable fans just want someone who will go beyond being paid, beyond being elite and just do whatever it takes to win. From the last contract he signed, it doesn't seem like he's doing any of the beyond stuff mentioned above.

I think if some of what mentioned above was seen and the team still loses, the fans would still respect and love the guy but the last contract negotiations and the recent social media post regarding the Nylander contract just leaves people feeling like this guy is only really about having a top contract in the league and throwing hissy fits when he doesn't get his way.

Sorry if people don't agree, just sharing some of what I have heard from friends and other Leafs fans regarding Marner and winning in general .
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs9 janv. à 1 h 39
Forum: NHL Signings9 janv. à 1 h 27
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Danny12357</b></div><div>This is pretty bang on. This contract is far better than losing Nylander for nothing, and if you were trying to win this player over to your team, you sign it in a heartbeat.

The big L here for BT is that he allowed it to get to this point. There was a lot of risk of this happening, and it was obviously there. Expectations changed the second the NHL announced a cap increase for next season, and throw in Nylander's point streak and another year where he just plain looks better than the year prior (which has been Nylander's trajectory) and you basically have a GM that lit $1.5M in cap space on fire trying to save $500K. That's a terrible bet.

Reality is, when the Leafs ask was just under $9M and Nylander was at $10M, they should have realized there was more for Nylander to gain than the Leafs, and should have hammered away at it until a deal was done in the offseason. You could have just caved and gave him $10M and that would have been a win in hindsight.

BT's decision making has been mostly very poor with Toronto, but I think it's Shanahan that really should be feeling the heat. Forget about what people think of Dubas, but how does a president of hockey operations go from offering an extension to Dubas to firing him over a 48 hour period with no backup plan in place? What other organization would fire their GM in the middle of their competitive window? I mean I get the lack of playoff wins, but still, no other team would fire a GM of a team that has the record that the Leafs had over the last 5 seasons, especially going into an absolutely critical 24 month window where every star forward will need a new contract.

If this Leafs core ever wins, it's now going to be in spite of management, not assisted by it.</div></div>

This post is the most balanced and fair in all things that got pointed out.

That last point by you may sting the most because the fanbase deserves better.
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs8 janv. à 1 h 31
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs8 déc. 2023 à 13 h 35
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mondo</b></div><div>Even with Samsonsov's decent statlines, I still don't have 100% faith in him long term, and have absolutely 0 faith in Jones. You might, but I don't.

I don't care if Reaves is "noticable" for 7 minutes, my point is he shouldn't be on NHL ice for 7 minutes at all. He's a 38 year facepuncher that got 3 million dollars to be a masking tape solution to "cultural issues" with the team. Really just a worst iteration of Simmonds and Clifford and Thornton.



Sorry, I'm not buying the excuse of "off nights". Multiple times this season he's gone three games without putting up any points. For a forward taking up 7 digits of cap space, that's incredibly poor and worse than "once in a while". You can count the number of games MacKinnon has put up zeros on one hand, and McDavid's lackluster scoring this season has been a major issue for the Oilers. Matthews, along with Tavares and Marner, are paid to score. Marner being a point per game player didn't save him from scrutiny earlier, and he responded with a 3 goal game and has looked fine since. I think we need to give the same treatment to Matthews. Hitting the post and "potential goals" aren't goals, you need to actually score if you want to win. Don't give these guys the benefit of the doubt if they're the reason the team can't sign depth, they don't deserve it.



This is meaningless speculation. More than one team is going to be in on Tanev; Treliving doesn't have a lot of leeway if he decides to hold Toronto's first hostage to get a sign-and-trade done.</div></div>

I wanted to say something about Matthews but just couldn't put it into words. The hatricks were nice but yeah your point stands out blaringly because so much has been invested in Matthews, Marner, Tavares and Nylander and there's not much else left for the bottom 6.

That means when any/all of the players named above fail to put up points, they will and should be questioned.

I hate this team's lack of compete level. It's my biggest gripe about this core for the longest time and nothing has changed so far.
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs7 déc. 2023 à 17 h 35