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Toronto Maple Leafs
il y a 23 heures
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50Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 5 - TDL additions (Go Big or Go Small)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CameronSquires</b></div><div>Who do we replace him with?</div></div>
If you fired him today then Guy Boucher as an interim till the summer.
You can throw any stats you want to justify his decisions but you cannot deny he has been out coached in every single playoff series he's been in. The fact that the "issues" we bring up are always special teams, defensive structure, transition these are systems that are implemented by the coach. Florida and Boston have significantly worse rosters on paper but they have systems that work. Toronto doesn't and never has under Keefe.
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Hier à 22 h 17
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50Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 5 - TDL additions (Go Big or Go Small)
One thing that's really getting on my nerves
Nylander is 0-7 in shootouts this season and yet KEEFE KEEPS ****ING STARTING HIM
Can we not. Like try someone else and still use Willy but at the 3 spot or something
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Toronto Maple Leafs
mer. à 21 h 5
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50Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 5 - TDL additions (Go Big or Go Small)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CameronSquires</b></div><div>I think we should drop our late 1st to 2 2nds / 2nd and a high 3rd depending on where they are in the draft order
and trade the 4th to a 5th and a 6th, just so we can have so many 5th round picks, it could give them security to just pick a bunch of guys they like without having to wait till the next round, and also would be entertaining lol</div></div>
I don’t think the strategy is to simply move back to acquire more picks.
You make your draft board. If the guy you like best is likely available 10+ picks later…you move back and try and pick up extra picks.
It’s more about being able to select the guys you like vs just being able to select more guys.
Of course you weigh how much more you like different guys in different spots and if you’re comfortable moving back and going with option 2 later…but there’s a more precise strategy about who you want to select where vs simply just getting more picks and figuring out the rest later
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Toronto Maple Leafs
11 mars à 9 h 28
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50Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 5 - TDL additions (Go Big or Go Small)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oneX</b></div><div>But regardless of Brodie falling off or not, the glaring need for a top RD was an issue for 6 damn years. Imagine what Rielly could have done with one on this roster either as his partner or on another pair.
I don't understand how people don't see RD as an issue, especially now nevermind wasting 6 years not addressing it.</div></div>
The RD you wanted often wasnt available or costs an insane amount.
Dubas did a lot of good work on the back end, both in development (holl in particular) and also trading like Muzzin, who'd be our best D today if the NHL actually cared about not needlessly hurting players
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Toronto Maple Leafs
11 mars à 2 h 4
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50Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 5 - TDL additions (Go Big or Go Small)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oneX</b></div><div>Well...Treliving isn't the only guilty one as far as RD goes. Dubas was here for 6 years and how much did he improve RD?
I'm not defending Treliving, just more thinking that Shanahan was here while Dubas was GM and is still here and the same problems exist as they did for 6 years. 🤷♂️</div></div>
In general nobody could have predicted a Brodie fall off that bad, Liligren continuing to be inconsistent, Klingberg getting hurt, etc
McCabe has been the best surprise on his offside
If they can get Liligren to how he was a month ago they set. But for some reason he randomly gets in a rut and it makes 0 sense. But he always manages to rebound and I believe
Edmundson-Liligren will be fine
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Toronto Maple Leafs
10 mars à 14 h 49
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50Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 5 - TDL additions (Go Big or Go Small)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>He needs more than a game. The body language is telling and its getting a bit concerning
And I do not want Lily with Brodie come playoffs hell nah. BOS smoked them
He can either play third pair with Edmunson or sit
Rielly-Boosh
Brodie-McCabe
Edmundson-Liligren</div></div>
The fact that we are having this debate post deadline about sitting our #1 RHD means Tre failed.
If he has one job since he was hired 10 months ago it was to find a RHD, now we are talking about starting the playoffs with Boosh are our only RHD.
I see why you like him so much...
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Toronto Maple Leafs
9 mars à 10 h 3
Sujet:
50Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 5 - TDL additions (Go Big or Go Small)
Maybe coping isn’t the right word but there sure are a lot of #LeafsForever fans who are ok with the lack of a big addition (RD, C) this team needed.
For those who wanted (me) this team to stand pat at the deadline because they just have too many holes and got criticized for, those same people are now saying “well it’s up to the core 4 anyways, it’s ok they made depth adds”
Tomato tomato 🤷♂️
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Toronto Maple Leafs
7 mars à 21 h 40
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50Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 5 - TDL additions (Go Big or Go Small)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oneX</b></div><div>This and starting on time.
Remember when they were on that 7 game winning streak? They didn't play Boston or Florida during that streak.
I get it..they beat Colorado and Vegas but guess what? If you can't beat the big boys in your own division, the rest doesn't matter. Tonight they have mostly been around the perimeter and not really getting to the net.
Still a flawed roster even with the trades so far and a coach who can't get this team to play with consistency.</div></div>
No but they played some other strong teams
STL x 2 , VGK, AVS, PHI those aint no pushovers.
I argue this time they did start it was more so wtf u doing McCabe there. I get its BOS and I know refs messing up the penalty didnt help but still
Afterwards before end of 2nd I thought it was better well besides the Willy and Marner plays and Woll not stopping a beachball. Bertuzzi jumped to life and we almost tied it
Tonight I will say its the second half of a b2b, illness is through the locker room but the Leafs tonight did not do themselves any favors.
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Toronto Maple Leafs
7 mars à 21 h 0
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50Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 5 - TDL additions (Go Big or Go Small)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>If TOR and BOS meet this playoffs its gonna be a violent series thats all im gonna say</div></div>
The problem is what I think Dubas figured out which is that you can surround your stars with as much toughness as you want but if the core is weak you won't win.
The Core 4 will each play 20mins+ a night maybe even 25+ for Matthews/Marner/Nylander in the playoffs. Those minutes will be physically dominated by Boston.
Even if every other player was super tough you are still using your skills vs strength losing strategy for at least 40% of each game.
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Toronto Maple Leafs
1 mars à 17 h 35
Sujet:
50Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 5 - TDL additions (Go Big or Go Small)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NorthernLeafsFan05</b></div><div>Not entirely sure what LA is doing, but they are a VERY interesting trade partner. If Roy is available, the Leafs need to be ALL over that. Plus, Robertson is from California, so connect the dots...
Also with Kaliyev reportedly being shopped, I would have major interest in bringing him in as well. Physical scorer that can fill Robertson's niche. Thats a guy that is due to break out any time soon, and Roy can be easily extended by Toronto. Id be super happy with a deal like that</div></div>
To add to this, Roy + Kaliyev and then a Duclair trade would set this roster up very nicely. Roy would be 50% retained by a third team to make the cap work, and the trade packages would largely consist of picks + non-roster players (like Abruzzese, Timmins, maybe but hopefully not Steeves, etc.) with the exception of Robertson
Bertuzzi - Matthews - Nylander
Duclair - Tavares - Marner
Knies - Domi - Kaliyev
Holmberg - Kampf - Jarnkrok
Rielly - Roy
McCabe - Liljegren
Benoit - Brodie
Woll
Samsonov
That is a roster with ample secondary scoring and a pretty stout defensive group. Duclair and Marner would be a dangerous duo
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Toronto Maple Leafs
1 mars à 17 h 21
Sujet:
50Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 5 - TDL additions (Go Big or Go Small)
Not entirely sure what LA is doing, but they are a VERY interesting trade partner. If Roy is available, the Leafs need to be ALL over that. Plus, Robertson is from California, so connect the dots...
Also with Kaliyev reportedly being shopped, I would have major interest in bringing him in as well. Physical scorer that can fill Robertson's niche. Thats a guy that is due to break out any time soon, and Roy can be easily extended by Toronto. Id be super happy with a deal like that
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Toronto Maple Leafs
1 mars à 10 h 22
Sujet:
50Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 5 - TDL additions (Go Big or Go Small)
Underrated thing about last night: I know giving up a shorty to Kerfoot isn't ideal, but didn't you see Nylander's hustle back? (This is coming from a guy who thought Nylander's contract was an overpay)
Pre Ottawa game, he wouldn't have thought twice about back checking, I think this is part of the reason why they are succeeding, they are starting to buy in
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Toronto Maple Leafs
28 févr. à 9 h 17
Sujet:
50Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 5 - TDL additions (Go Big or Go Small)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Just spitballing imagine a 2 step plan to improve the blue line like this
1. Trade for Rasmus Andersson or Adam Larsson (in this case would need it to be Andersson and you will see why).
Rielly-Liligren (fill in temporary could probs get the job done)
Brodie-Andersson
Benoit-McCabe
Then in the summer and this is where step II comes in go get either Roy or Demelo this FA.
Rielly-Demelo/Roy
McCabe-Andersson
Benoit-Liligren
Thats a pretty nice Dcore right there
You make a trade now for someone with term but then in the summer go get the other piece needed to make something even better.</div></div>
I'd expect this to pretty much be the exact strategy. Not necessarily these players...but pick up a RD with at least some term (or who you intend to extend) at this deadline and then add another in free agency with extensions for Lilly and Benoit
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Toronto Maple Leafs
28 févr. à 8 h 25
Sujet:
50Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 5 - TDL additions (Go Big or Go Small)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oneX</b></div><div>I'd first like to ask you about how you feel about this team's depth over the past 6 years.
The truth is...a move like this one will definitely cause more problems in terms of lack of depth, especially if you're in the camp of keeping Nylander and Marner while adding Petterson.</div></div>
If Vancouver were to somehow accept my offer and EP signed at ~12m, I think the roster I constructed has a deep enough forward group to be competitors and a decent enough blue line, but the Goaltending is the huge question mark. I feel like we could ride out that cap nightmare for a year until JT expires, because then filling out the roster is a piece of cake
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Toronto Maple Leafs
28 févr. à 2 h 31
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50Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 5 - TDL additions (Go Big or Go Small)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oneX</b></div><div>I'd first like to ask you about how you feel about this team's depth over the past 6 years.
The truth is...a move like this one will definitely cause more problems in terms of lack of depth, especially if you're in the camp of keeping Nylander and Marner while adding Petterson.</div></div>
I think realistically Nylander goes the other way and Toronto is a leader to acquire Pettersson because Vancouver won't want to rebuild and nobody is offering a player better than Nylander in return.
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Toronto Maple Leafs
28 févr. à 1 h 37
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50Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 5 - TDL additions (Go Big or Go Small)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oneX</b></div><div>I remember people saying too much is being made of RD vs LD (I remember palhal definitely being one person) and well...tonight kind of showed what happens when you play guys out of their natural side.
Before the last 6-7 game stretch, Brodie looked horrible out there but during this stretch of 6-7 games he's been solid...so what changed? He was playing on naturally stronger side.
I don't know about the TDL but RD definitely needs to be addressed in the off season whether it's a trade or signing Matt Roy or someone who can bring stability to that side of D.</div></div>
Just spitballing imagine a 2 step plan to improve the blue line like this
1. Trade for Rasmus Andersson or Adam Larsson (in this case would need it to be Andersson and you will see why).
Rielly-Liligren (fill in temporary could probs get the job done)
Brodie-Andersson
Benoit-McCabe
Then in the summer and this is where step II comes in go get either Roy or Demelo this FA.
Rielly-Demelo/Roy
McCabe-Andersson
Benoit-Liligren
Thats a pretty nice Dcore right there
You make a trade now for someone with term but then in the summer go get the other piece needed to make something even better.
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Toronto Maple Leafs
28 févr. à 0 h 3
Sujet:
50Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 5 - TDL additions (Go Big or Go Small)
Let's say you're Brad Treliving and this offseason you receive a tip that the Canucks are trying to accommodate a trade for Elias Pettersson, who has expressed a lack of desire to remain in Vancouver. You see that Tavares is expiring soon and is only getting older, meaning this team will have a very large hole at 2C. If you were trying to swing a deal for Petey and trying to outcompete just about 31 other teams with interest, what kind of package would you put forward to acquire the superstar center?
I'd have to think the whole thing starts with Knies, Minten, as well as an NHL caliber player (Jarnkrok? We all know Allvin has an affinity for Swedish players). Obviously you'd have to add significantly more to this package as well. Personally, Im not trading Marner for Petey, Marner is the better player and should be untouchable. What else can we even muster up to stand a chance at landing Pettersson? How are we able to construct a roster around the first year of this hypothetical Pettersson contract (~12m)? I'd love to imagine a universe where Pettersson is a Leaf, but I just can't see it happening. Maybe you guys see it differently though, in which case I'd be curious to see the kind of trade you would table to land him.
Here's a roster I managed to put together with Niemela, Knies, Minten, and Jarnkrok going back the other way. Obviously that is a little less than what the Canucks would be getting back (additional draft capital among other things), but I just can't think of a legitimate offer that would work. I'd like to use Eichel as the comp. in this scenario, but Tkachuk is the better blueprint in which case we really don't have what it takes.
<img class="for_img" src="https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1042856800346701960/1212263394246393856/Screenshot_2024-02-28_000121.png?ex=65f13343&is=65debe43&hm=7afc9a66bac770841f3100e1c1e4904d98aceabcdd112ff19db47bbe638ac1a0&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1130&height=807" alt="Screenshot_2024-02-28_000121.png?ex=65f13343&is=65debe43&hm=7afc9a66bac770841f3100e1c1e4904d98aceabcdd112ff19db47bbe638ac1a0&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1130&height=807">
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Toronto Maple Leafs
27 févr. à 22 h 30
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50Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 5 - TDL additions (Go Big or Go Small)
A few questions:
1. What are your thoughts on Domi? I personally love the edge he brings but I don't think we can play him in the top 9. He is so bad in his own zone. No matter which line he is on, as soon as he gets stuck in the D-Zone I'm just waiting for something bad to happen. I'd love that edge in the playoffs but not sure if it should come at the cost of essentially having one line that can't play defense.
2. What is the plan on D? I know there has been lots of debate here about who to pickup. Personally I think that Carrier is going to be the biggest steal of the deadline. He put up 30 points and was elite in his rookie season playing with Ekholm, since then his offence is gone but he's among the league leaders in hits and plays a really solid defensive game. He's small which is the biggest knock but his and Rielly's analytics profiles look like together they would be an elite #1 pair. I think the worst move we can make is Rasmus Andersson, he's essentially a bigger, bad version of Rielly. He is top 5 among defenseman for D zone turnovers and has less hits than Carrier despite Carrier being 5'11.
I see two paths on D; (i) We leave Brodie-Lili, Benoit-McCabe and focus on finding a partner for Rielly. (ii) Tre tries to significantly redo the D by finding a partner for Rielly AND upgrading either Brodie or Lili.
Thoughts?
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Toronto Maple Leafs
26 févr. à 16 h 37
Sujet:
50Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 5 - TDL additions (Go Big or Go Small)
Speaking of Matthews. Did anyone notice in the game in Arizona, the camera angles. Was it just me, but the by the positioning of the camera (probably closer to the ice), the ice surface looked wider than it does in other televised games. Really looked they were playing on European ice.
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NHL Signings
23 févr. à 9 h 46
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Detroit Red Wings signed Michael Rasmussen (4 Years / $3,200,000 AAV)
They're paying him for what he will do, not what he has done. I'm not a fan of the term/cap hit, but it's not terrible.
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NHL Signings
20 févr. à 14 h 30
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Detroit Red Wings signed Michael Rasmussen (4 Years / $3,200,000 AAV)
Money is not terrible but personally I don't like this much term for middle-six guys. Sure, he's a big boy and just entering the prime years but still. I'm also looking at his injury history and seeing a couple of knee issues, can someone with insight on the wings enlighten me if there's potential risk there as well?
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NHL Signings
20 févr. à 14 h 27
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Detroit Red Wings signed Michael Rasmussen (4 Years / $3,200,000 AAV)
A tad high in salary but should grow a bit more overall to make it okay overall
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NHL Signings
20 févr. à 14 h 24
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Detroit Red Wings signed Michael Rasmussen (4 Years / $3,200,000 AAV)
Ras has a lot to like about him but this is a bit much
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Toronto Maple Leafs
23 févr. à 13 h 31
Sujet:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 4 - Mid Season Slump
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juice</b></div><div>Lose 4 in a row and we all want the coach fired and to sell at the deadline
6 game winning streak and nobody is mentioning keefe and everyone is ready to buy
what a magical thing it is to be a fan</div></div>
Keefe along with the team seem to have woke up after what Rielly did. He finally made some adjustments and they worked. As man it was looking ugly for a while and some of those losses u could kind of point to him for not adjusting or calming his team
Like the one sour game hes got out of the 6 is PHI where they blew a 3-1 lead
But the ARI game was good for him as notice when ARI was getting a bit to strong momentum wise he called a time out to settle things down and it kind of worked. Then whatever he said in the intermission also worked
Then against VGK almost the same but no need for a timeout. Team responded well
Now keep going
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Toronto Maple Leafs
23 févr. à 9 h 45
Sujet:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 4 - Mid Season Slump
Lose 4 in a row and we all want the coach fired and to sell at the deadline
6 game winning streak and nobody is mentioning keefe and everyone is ready to buy
what a magical thing it is to be a fan
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